Spoilers - Gilmore Girls S&S #132 ~ Where's the Love? - Page 13

little_earthquake · 01-07-2007, 05:07 PM

interresting.

a few weeks ago people on this thread kept tellung us that Lorelai is so IN with Chris. And that the ILYs meant everything. That she truly is over Luke and fully commited to Chris.

Now that you know the Spoiler Lorelai is so not in and never was. Like we told you weeks ago. Interresting how people can change their opinion that easy. Going with the flow is just so easy you barrely notice the change in opinions

TheJSW · 01-07-2007, 05:07 PM

She's unsympathetic because SHE'S ENDING THE MARRIAGE. If she were not LMCBW. If she were not all HIGH AND MIGHTY. This would never have happened. If she's trying to correct a mistake? A MISTAKE? A MISTAKE? She's more duplicitous in her actions than I originally thought. No man should ever enter her bed again unless it's inflatable.

ETA: So, Franzi, you knew a SPOILER, but did not share it? Again, I should be a fan of any LL/JJ on this board, WHY? If you ALL KNEW THIS SPOILER. Which I am not going to discount. If you all knew it, then thanks for the openness. Nice share. Really nice share.

GGMinn · 01-07-2007, 05:08 PM

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And how do people know that Lorelai ending this marriage isn't her attempt to correct what she feels is a very big mistake? Wouldn't she be more unsympathetic if she stayed in the marriage knowing that it was the wrong thing to do?

What is the mistake, exactly, Sarahnoh?

Tara Ashley · 01-07-2007, 05:08 PM

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When LITTLE MISS CANT BE WRONG spent all of last year being pissed at him for not doing what she WANTED HIM TO DO. Which he should have done anyway, but that is besides the point. I want Lorelai to feel some pain. I want her to be so hurt, that she does not leave bed for a week. Maybe then, she will stop being an ******* to her parents, and get that SELF-RIGHTEOUS STICK out of her ass. She needs to be humbled. Unless she's humbled. She's never going to learn the lesson. The lesson being; OPENING YOURSELF UP, DOES NOT ALWAYS MEAN YOU WILL GET HURT. She never gives herself to anyone. Enough of that **** already.

You're right there. But I can't agree with the parents thing or that she's always self-righteous. Lorelai is not the sole instigator of all things bad in her life.

ETA: When did you form such a vile opinion of Lorelai, Jason? I never noticed it before.

Saranoh · 01-07-2007, 05:09 PM

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She's unsympathetic because SHE'S ENDING THE MARRIAGE. If she were not LMCBW. If she were not all HIGH AND MIGHTY. This would never have happened. If she's trying to correct a mistake? A MISTAKE? A MISTAKE? She's more duplicitous in her actions than I originally thought. No man should ever enter her bed again unless it's inflatable.

So, what do you suggest she do then? Stay in a marriage with a man that she's not truly in love with?

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What is the mistake, exactly, Sarahnoh?

The marriage. JMO

Ciaobella · 01-07-2007, 05:10 PM

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Personally, I am siding with Laura at this moment in time. I want Lorelai to be alone. I want her to be alone for awhile. If she cannot be alone. I want Luke to look in her face and tell her; "**** YOU." If she wanted to work with him. Luke may have decided to work with her. Instead she had to get all FINITE on their relationship by screwing Chris. Lorelai needs to be DRIVEN INTO THE GROUND LIKE A SPIKE. She needs to be levelled by some guy, that she realizes that she loves all of a sudden. When LITTLE MISS CANT BE WRONG spent all of last year being pissed at him for not doing what she WANTED HIM TO DO. Which he should have done anyway, but that is besides the point. I want Lorelai to feel some pain. I want her to be so hurt, that she does not leave bed for a week. Maybe then, she will stop being an ******* to her parents, and get that SELF-RIGHTEOUS STICK out of her ass. She needs to be humbled. Unless she's humbled. She's never going to learn the lesson. The lesson being; OPENING YOURSELF UP, DOES NOT ALWAYS MEAN YOU WILL GET HURT. She never gives herself to anyone. Enough of that **** already.

And who says that's not going to happen, at least some of it? Luke and Lorelai arent' going to reunite in 714. Lorelai isn't going to fall into Luke's arms straight from Chris'. If the marriage is over by 714, there is still eight episodes for Lorelai to be burned at the stake, given shock therapy, have her remote taken away from her and all other kinds of punishment.

Mag13 · 01-07-2007, 05:11 PM

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I doubt or at least I hope that she doesn't fly back into Luke's arm.

Just a thought: Lorelai will initiate the break up with Chris knowing, there's no return to Luke at this moment. If she decides to make the step, it's a brave decission, showing her despair!

TheJSW · 01-07-2007, 05:12 PM

Sara, that statement right there. Demonstrates how much of a piece of **** Lorelai Gilmore has become. Again, outside of her relationships and maybe moments where she throws Rory under the bus, Lorelai is a fine character. However, this, this, this is disgusting. Luke should really tell her to go **** HERSELF in a myrriad of languages including Klingon.

ETA: Bella, you know when they get back together. So spill already. Apparently, you can never trust a JJ or an LL in this thread, because you guys have been sitting on this info for who knows how long. Again, one thing that we should have here, is some sense of TRUST between each other. We might not like one another's action, but I trust you to not **** WITH ME. By knowing a spoiler for so long that even Franzi knew about it. You guys essentially have declared yourselves as the SHIPPER GROUP that ****s around with the rest of us in the thead. As Sandlynn stated; "OWN IT."

Saranoh · 01-07-2007, 05:13 PM

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Sara, that statement right there. Demonstrates how much of a piece of **** Lorelai Gilmore has become. Again, outside of her relationships and maybe moments where she throws Rory under the bus, Lorelai is a fine character. However, this, this, this is disgusting. Luke should really tell her to go **** HERSELF in a myrriad of languages including Klingon.

Will you please explain to me why ending the marriage is disgusting?

pimbolina · 01-07-2007, 05:14 PM

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What is the mistake, exactly, Sarahnoh?

Well I'm not Saranoh, but how about breaking up with Luke, then immediately sleeping with Chris, marrying Chris in the spur of the moment...

Ciaobella · 01-07-2007, 05:17 PM

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Maybe Rory stops speaking to her and that's why she falls back on Luke again -- like she did during the first rift -- because her daughter is totally disgusted with her. I'm tellin' ya, Rory needs to distance herself from this crowd.

Oh yeah, that's why Lorelai falls back on Luke again. Sure.

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ETA: Bella, you know when they get back together. So spill already. Apparently, you can never trust a JJ or an LL in this thread, because you guys have been sitting on this info for who knows how long. Again, one thing that we should have here, is some sense of TRUST between each other. We might not like one another's action, but I trust you to not **** WITH ME. By knowing a spoiler for so long that even Franzi knew about it. You guys essentially have declared yourselves as the SHIPPER GROUP that ****s around with the rest of us in the thead. As Sandlynn stated; "OWN IT."

Yeah, I'll "OWN IT", Jason. I have more loyalty to my friends who are kind enough to share spoilers with me and with whom I make promises to keep to myself until they ok it. I don't owe you anything.

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Just a thought: Lorelai will initiate the break up with Chris knowing, there's no return to Luke at this moment. If she decides to make the step, it's a brave decission, showing her despair!

Exactly Mag. Lorelai ends her marriage to Chris still convinced Luke doesn't love her.

little_earthquake · 01-07-2007, 05:19 PM

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ETA: So, Franzi, you knew a SPOILER, but did not share it? Again, I should be a fan of any LL/JJ on this board, WHY? If you ALL KNEW THIS SPOILER. Which I am not going to discount. If you all knew it, then thanks for the openness. Nice share. Really nice share.

i did not say i knew about the spoiler. I said its interresting how easely people change their minds. I actually saw on sceen she was never ever fully in plus my female gut knows how much time is needed to get over the love of your life.

TheJSW · 01-07-2007, 05:19 PM

Sara, it's disgustin, because Lorelai is such a slag. She married a guy. Who she clearly never loved, but married him anyway. Since she's so ****ing dumb, that she cannot even figure out her own emotions. Lorelai has been an asshat. Since she sold out her daughter. She's even more of an asshat for spending months in a marriage, that she would later feel is a sham. This makes me like VOLTRON and StEm even more!

gilmorebrazil · 01-07-2007, 05:19 PM

DSR said that Richard illness should bring all Gilmore's closer. So I wonder if Lorelai's epiphany also includes the way she sees her parents. If Richard has a slow recovery, I would love to see her acting as a caring daughter and focused on her parents needs for a couple episodes. And I think it could also help her relationship with Rory after her irresponsible marriage to Christopher fails. Besides, EH, KB and LG usually make great scenes together.

MickeyJr3000 · 01-07-2007, 05:19 PM

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I said he was trashing (and making foolish for that matter) her entire family in order to get L&L back together as quickly as possible.

Hm. Now that you say it Sandylinn, I am actually curious how this impacts EVERYONE (as in the entire Gilmore clan)...the demise of L/C's relationship. Even though Richard's health crisis seems to be more of an issue in 7.13, I can hardly ignore the impact that a future C/L breakup will have on the elder Gilmores and their impressions of what they've been proud of all along.

The Gilmore parents have always seen Christopher in such a happy light, since season one. And Emily has even gone to the point of trying to break L/L up because she believed wholeheartedly that (despite Chris's flaws of being weak), Christopher is the right guy for Lorelai. During these past several years, people have questioned their impressions and beliefs with regards to Christopher, from their pride in Christopher's 'success' in business, to putting him on a pedestal above Lorelai in 3.01 (Saying that Christopher abides and sticks by family, and it is Lorelai who has made all the mistakes).

Plus, they have been quite ignorant or have been terribly naive about Christopher's relationship with Rory. The only sign pointing the opposite way was when Emily made a comment about him in FNAFF. I, for one, have hated how welcoming they have been towards Christopher, as though he is family who does no wrong, and how they have not really questioned his involvement with Rory for the past 22 years.

In the meantime, they have had multitudes of reactions toward Luke, but mostly, they haven't acknowledged the impact he has had on L/R's life over the years. They more often have been bitter towards him and percieved him as a guy who was not right for Lorelai...for whatever reasons.

Is this a much needed wake up call for the Gilmores too?

As for Rory, I don't think she's been too excited from the beginning, about this marriage. I'm sure she won't be devastated but she could be extremely confused. And I think her relationship with Christopher is only going to get worse from this, unless he knows how to fix it.

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I am not trying to make light of Gigi’s hurt when the breakup occurs all I saying is that the writers might have taken this into consideration when they orchestrated the breakup and intentionally reduced the time she spent bonding with her new family to minimize any emotional impact on her and possibly not make Lorelai seem so heartless when she walks away from her.

I agree. Her departure was probably intended so that she did not have much of a say, nor a long experience, in dealing with the new family and new mommy. So good call by the writers. It also should be duly noted that the decision to marry/elope occured not ONE DAY after Gigi was given to Sherry, occured while L/C were IN FRANCE having taking Gigi there, and that the elopement/marriage occured WITHOUT Gigi's knowledge or involvement. (And that the marriage/elopement also occured without Rory's knowledge or involvement.)