Spoilers - Gilmore Girls S&S #123 ~ Enter At Your Own Risk - Page 7

FuzzyCerts · 12-19-2006, 09:47 PM

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Structurally, breaking up LL destroyed some key foundations of the show – the diner scenes, the banter, the lead-ins to other scenes (eg, the breastfeeding scene, the rabbi/Andrew/Taylor teaser in Devilled Eggs – somehow they worked so much better with LL than similar recent scenes).

So true caf......

MickeyJr3000 · 12-19-2006, 09:53 PM

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I don't think it has to do with this position particularly. It is like Paris said way back in Not As Cute As Pushkin. The younger kids are competition. So, just like Paris was unhappy about Rory's little Chilton guest and what she represented, Richard will be unhappy to see that he isn't indispensable. That is hard for a workaholic to accept. I think TA is just a symbol of the replacements in all parts of Richard's work life. I hope for Emily's sake that he adjusts to retirement better than he did last time. (But I'm not counting on it. He likes to put on his suit and go to the office.)

Wanted to come back and chime in on this Richard discussion...

I like your theory. I think part of that COULD happen through the TA storyline but only part. I think, if you really wanted Richard to feel 'jealous' or upset that the TA is 'teaching' (Which we don't know for sure...TA's teach tutorials, not lectures, and they're STUDENTS, not professors), I think it would be because the department lets him go, since they don't need him, or because they think he's ill and needs to retire. He sees the TA teaching in a class, and thinks about how he wants to be doing that, but he's no longer allowed to.

A TA wouldn't threaten Richard necessarily, IMO. If you know the workings of a university/college, a TA would RARELY, if ever, teach a lecture (TA's are grad students with their own studies, usually...they're not professors). Lectures are taught by the professor. Tutorials are classes where you can go over the lecture material in a class setting, and those are run/taught by TA's.

Very different jobs. A TA can't take Richard's position because a TA doesn't have the credentials for the position. YMMV

BUT, of course, forgetting my nitpickiness on who can be a lecture prof and such, I totally agree that this provides a great opportunity for the writers to show the impact the illness has on Richard's self esteem - He sees the TA teaching...it's a blow to Richard because it reminds him that he's no longer young, youthful, and he's no longer being asked to work. Seniors tend to feel a huge sense of loss when their 'rights' (well, their career identities) are taken away from them. Even though Richard still has his company, if they don't ask him back as a guest lecturer, he'll feel like he's slowly being refused and rejected in being a career man in society. Did he like retirement the last time?

little_earthquake · 12-19-2006, 09:54 PM

caf you made a very good post

so so true

lancer1993 · 12-19-2006, 09:55 PM

No Lorelai in the diner for 10 eps just feels wrong, maybe ep 7.11?

Bet we find out she's been going there since TGS it's just DSR didn't show it

I really want to see onscreen the first time she jingles Luke's bell again...on the diner door

notoutforawalk · 12-19-2006, 09:59 PM

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Wanted to come back and chime in on this Richard discussion...

I like your theory. I think part of that COULD happen through the TA storyline but only part. I think, if you really wanted Richard to feel 'jealous' or upset that the TA is 'teaching' (Which we don't know for sure...TA's teach tutorials, not lectures, and they're STUDENTS, not professors), I think it would be because the department lets him go, since they don't need him, or because they think he's ill and needs to retire. He sees the TA teaching in a class, and thinks about how he wants to be doing that, but he's no longer allowed to.

A TA wouldn't threaten Richard necessarily, IMO. If you know the workings of a university/college, a TA would RARELY, if ever, teach a lecture (TA's are grad students with their own studies, usually...they're not professors). Lectures are taught by the professor. Tutorials are classes where you can go over the lecture material in a class setting, and those are run/taught by TA's.

Very different jobs. A TA can't take Richard's position because a TA doesn't have the credentials for the position. YMMV

BUT, of course, forgetting my nitpickiness on who can be a lecture prof and such, I totally agree that this provides a great opportunity for the writers to show the impact the illness has on Richard's self esteem - He sees the TA teaching...it's a blow to Richard because it reminds him that he's no longer young, youthful, and he's no longer being asked to work. Seniors tend to feel a huge sense of loss when their 'rights' (well, their career identities) are taken away from them. Even though Richard still has his company, if they don't ask him back as a guest lecturer, he'll feel like he's slowly being refused and rejected in being a career man in society. Did he like retirement the last time?

Except semester that the PhD that taught the history class I was signed up for dropped dead in his office of a heart attack two days before the semester started. They didn't have time to recruit, so his TA of three years had to do lectures, because he knew all of the stuff that was normally taught.

And again, it is more a symbol of the next generation than a real threat to him. (I mean, does anyone think that silly twit from Not As Cute... would ever be a real threat to Paris? No way. She was just a symbol.)

gilmore_maniac · 12-19-2006, 10:04 PM

Not sure if this has been brought over...no column yet but there is a poll asking who Lorelai's soul mate is Luke or Christopher. Currently Luke is in the lead with 77%

Michael Ausiello | TVGuide.com

MickeyJr3000 · 12-19-2006, 10:04 PM

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And again, it is more a symbol of the next generation than a real threat to him. (I mean, does anyone think that silly twit from Not As Cute... would ever be a real threat to Paris? No way. She was just a symbol.)

Gotcha

And I agree totally.

Now, who's ready to cross our fingers in hopes that we're right?

If the TA serves no purpose to further Richard's personal storyline, and does not serve a LOGICAL purpose in Rory's storyline, I will holler.
LOGICAL negates the possibility of either the TA or Rory getting a crush on the other.

ETA: Column's up.

Read below:

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Question: Can I get some nice Gilmore Girls scoop, please?— Franziska
Ausiello: Lorelai and Christopher are going to have a huge falling-out in early '07 over a letter. Also, Rory's going to develop a crush on the hot young economics professor brought in to temporarily replace an ailing Richard. And there will be a death around Episode 13, but not a serious one. In fact, it's kinda funny.

Did I NOT JUST SAY that that is NOT a LOGICAL storyline??????

caf123 · 12-19-2006, 10:05 PM

AA is up:

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Question: My favorite quote from your AS-P interview? "I've got someone else to annoy me and make my ass chair-shaped." I miss her so much.— Annie
Ausiello: You and me both.

Question: I'm sick of this Veronica Mars/Gilmore Girls BS. Don't you ever get bored with the same crap every week? Would it kill you to give us some scoop on some real shows, like SVU or Without a Trace?— Latoya
Ausiello: Sounds like someone's channeling the Grinch this holiday season. Maybe some SVU casting news will cheer you up: Adam Beach (Flags of Our Fathers) will partner with Ice-T on a rape investigation in a February episode, and Kal Penn will play one of the suspects.

Question: I hear there is no new AA next week!— C.J.
Ausiello: Wow, word travels fast around here. Unfortunately, it's true. AA is going on a one-week hiatus due to Santa Claus' impending arrival. If that makes you angry, try channeling your energy into something positive. Like buying me a present.

Question: Can I get some nice Gilmore Girls scoop, please?— Franziska
Ausiello: Lorelai and Christopher are going to have a huge falling-out in early '07 over a letter. Also, Rory's going to develop a crush on the hot young economics professor brought in to temporarily replace an ailing Richard. And there will be a death around Episode 13, but not a serious one. In fact, it's kinda funny.

Ciaobella · 12-19-2006, 10:05 PM

You are so much better at this than I, caf lol.

Well I think that answers the question..."Why is the TA handsome and charming?"

catkirk7 · 12-19-2006, 10:08 PM

Maybe he'll be used to go back to Rory's questioning her future storyline. Like he provides some meaningful insight. 28-32 could be a grad student who started a career path and realized it was completely wrong for him so he went back to get a master's and pursue a new passion. (Wishful speccing on the part of someone who really wants Rory to question "the plan."?)

ETA: Or it will be a crush for Rory.

And it seems possible that, since he's not listed as recurring or possibly recurring that it will be yet another semi storyline that will go away after one ep.

lemon tart · 12-19-2006, 10:11 PM

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In what way? It's not like Richard has had this "job" for long and depends on it for his livelihood or self-esteem. Is the fact that a mere TA takes over for him negates his importance? I just don't see why the TA has to be charming, handsome and intelligent. Is Richard that frightened of losing this position?

I'm not sure I subscribe to this theory, but it is supported by canon. Think back S2, PLG, Richard getting pushed out for someone younger. Look how insecure and paranoid that made him then, and he wasn't even ill, just feeling old. This guy is young, vigorous, charming, the person Richard used to be/once was. Richard's stared death in the face. Perhaps he has to go over to the Gilmores home to consult or deliver something to Richard?

Like I said, not sure this is what I think, but it does make more sense than a hook up for Rory, or someone hitting on Rory, since Logan's supposed to be at the hospital in the prior episode supporting her, and of course her grandfather is likely still ill. Or not. But then I'm not much of a believer in MA.

caf123 · 12-19-2006, 10:14 PM

Ciao - if I jinx you, will I still get cake?

Ciaobella · 12-19-2006, 10:16 PM

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Ciao - if I jinx you, will I still get cake?

You get two helpings.

Funny death = Chris and Lore's marriage.

I know I'll be laughing.

MickeyJr3000 · 12-19-2006, 10:19 PM

Gosh. Isn't this fun...

Why is Rory saddled with the WORST one-episode STUPID story arcs? Okay, Marty lasted three episodes. That was bad enough, DR .

Get a friggen GRIP.

withbatedbreath · 12-19-2006, 10:20 PM

Do we know, was that actually it for Marty? or is Wayne signed for more eps than that?