Spoilers - Gilmore Girls S&S #118 ~ Sorry, PA Is Currently Away On Tour - Page 13

GEORGEIII · 12-15-2006, 09:20 AM

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Oh I have another one you might like George, or well I know you'll like. Sure it is a bit sweet and all. But I guess not to sweet for a guy who would like a double wedding

I am speccing that if this is the last year of this show (I hate writing that btw), in the final ep Logan and Rory will get married. Lorelai won't be married yet or well, not to the one she truely wants, since well, Rory is supposed to have it all before her. That has been Lorelais goal to begin with. After the wedding on the same night after returning from the party, which Lorelai will attend with Luke, they have been together for 2 or 3 eps, this time Luke will be the one to propose to Lorelai. And of course Lorelai will say yes. And there won't be negative anvils this time ... So the show can end after Rory is back from her honeymoon talking with Lorelai about her honeymoon to Asia, her future plans for her career and also talking about the upcoming wedding of Lorelai and Luke that is being planned by Emily

I love hope and speccing as if I have to much of it

Call me a fanwanker ... please do. Not that it matters though, or would have an effect on me. Because thinking about this makes me happy and leaves me grinning. I don't care if it will actually happen, even though I am not thinking this is so unrealistic to think ...

I knew I liked you for very good reasons!

wej5541 · 12-15-2006, 09:22 AM

I could see Chris not knowing that Richard is in the hospital because he is too upset with Lorelai to answer his cell phone when she calls him.

Blaab,
I agree that Rory and Logan getting married would make a nice last episode.

lemon tart · 12-15-2006, 09:24 AM

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ETA: Lemon, I think that you are right that Rory won't be caring about what's going on with her parents at that moment, but that isn't the point. He's not only being rude and insensitive towards his wife, but also his daughter by not being there. He should look past what is going on between him and Lorelai to support his child.

I would agree. Exactly like I think Lorelai should have gotten over herself and been there for Rory's courtdate. There are times when being a parent/spouse/member of a family should come first. This is one of them. So was that. Interestingly both acting in selfish and detremental to those they care about at the worst possible times. Part of the problem with Chris & Lorelai has always been they're far too much alike, personality wise.

Ohhhh, Babs, I hadn't thought of the FNAFF ||s. You're right. And this is ep 13 just like that one was, and there have been some interesting ||s between the same episodes from season 6 & 7. I'm feeling more like something such as Logan offering to call a specialist really might happen. Excellent call!

I just look at it as Logan has the means, and will want to help however he can. Which is just like FNAFF as well. Sometimes being who he is does matter. I can't see Emily being anymore emotionally together than she was in F&S, where she was a mess for much of the episode. She went into organizing mode after she knew Richard would be okay. Logan's slightly removed, but still emotionally invested through Rory, that he would want to do what he can. This happens to be something HE can do. Also, Mitchum organized the best medical care avaliable for Logan, but till Rory yelled at him gave Logan nothing emotionally. This offers a contrast to that as well.

GEORGEIII · 12-15-2006, 09:26 AM

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I would agree. Exactly like I think Lorelai should have gotten over herself and been there for Rory's courtdate. There are times when being a parent/spouse/member of a family should come first. This is one of them. So was that. Interestingly both acting in selfish and detremental to those they care about at the worst possible times. Part of the problem with Chris & Lorelai has always been they're far too much alike, personality wise.

Ohhhh, Babs, I hadn't thought of the FNAFF ||s. You're right. And this is ep 13 just like that one was, and there have been some interesting ||s between the same episodes from season 6 & 7. I'm feeling more like something such as Logan offering to call a specialist really might happen. Excellent call!

I just look at it as Logan has the means, and will want to help however he can. Which is just like FNAFF as well. Sometimes being who he is does matter. I can't see Emily being anymore emotionally together than she was in F&S, where she was a mess for much of the episode. She went into organizing mode after she knew Richard would be okay. Logan's slightly removed, but still emotionally invested through Rory, that he would want to do what he can. This happens to be something HE can do. Also, Mitchum organized the best medical care avaliable for Logan, but till Rory yelled at him gave Logan nothing emotionally. This offers a contrast to that as well.

I concur.

blaab · 12-15-2006, 09:38 AM

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I knew I liked you for very good reasons!

George, feeling is mutual!

Yep, so much potential in this ep. So many things that could come together or could set up for more to happen to be resolved or move forward for the rest of the season ...

Cappuccino · 12-15-2006, 10:18 AM

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George, feeling is mutual!

Yep, so much potential in this ep. So many things that could come together or could set up for more to happen to be resolved or move forward for the rest of the season ...

Yup one door gets slamed shut and another opens a crack

Sandlynn · 12-15-2006, 10:25 AM

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The above line actually annoys me, but that can happen ... How is Jason making them the center of the show and asking others to do the same? He mentions them, so what? He thinks for now these two together are the most romantic thing on this show, so what? So he mentions VOLTRON VOLTRON VOLTRON and for him they are important to this show, but Jason discusses all aspects of this show on the MT ... or that is what I have seen. So there are many many people around here that only and I mean only either post about L/L or L/C but in a way it only has something to with L/L. Anything gets related to L/L. There have been whole threads only about L/L ... so then there is this guy who not only talks about all characters on this show, but also shows his love for a certain couple ... it ain't L/L ... nope he loves Rory and Logan ... VOLTRON. And he shows this ... again so what? How does him expressing his love for this couple, just like many posters here in a much more exclusive manner only talk about the couple L/L, make him ask you to do the same? I am actually glad this other couple gets some attention and some love on this thread also …

Well, I think it's amusing that the moment we learn that Logan might be at the hospital as well the specs turn to, "what will that mean for Luke?" "How will Luke and he interact?" "How will he help get Lorelai and Luke together?" "How will he take Chris to task?" Because we all know, that that's what Logan's role would be, to be there for the greater glory of L&L.… Rory? Who's she?

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Chris will always be important, in some way, to Rory...yes...it never seems that way because of the way that they use Chris. However, if you and I know, that Chris and Rory need to have some sort of healing process on screen. The writers should know as well. Which, hopefully, will lead to CHRIS (FINALLY FOR THE LOVE OF ATHENA) only coming around for one Lorelai...the Jr one from Stars Hollow.

That was how things were actually happening at the end of Season 6. Rory and Chris were bonding, he was there only for her, and his interactions with Lorelai were based around Rory or her help with Gigi. However, then Luke iced Lorelai out of his life, Lorelai freaked, and she ran to Christopher. So, on account of Luke and Lorelai's individual acts -- and inability to communicate -- Rory's going to lose her father once again.

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The junior set includes the daughter of the LLC debacle. I'll never believe that has no effect on Rory. It's good that Logan is there, cool if we get more Logan-Lorelai scenes - but I have a nitpick: if Logan is also around, and Rory, what on earth does Luke 'run around' doing for Emily that everyone else couldn't do....

Frankly, I think his presence is very contrived. I can see what his role would be once he was there, but being there at all makes no sense.

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Most important - if Christopher throws the self-pity party Ausiello described, then not only is he not there for Lorelai - he's also not there for his own daughter when her grandpa is striken and rushed to hospital. That's huge.

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As far as Chris not being there, it's just plain unacceptable. He should overlook his own hurt feelings in this situation not only for Lorelai, but for Rory as well, like you said.

ETA: Lemon, I think that you are right that Rory won't be caring about what's going on with her parents at that moment, but that isn't the point. He's not only being rude and insensitive towards his wife, but also his daughter by not being there. He should look past what is going on between him and Lorelai to support his child.

So, you all agree that Lorelai should've put aside her feelings of hurt and self-pity to have been at the court during Rory's hearing. It's the exact same thing.

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Thanks Laura, so it was Sandlynn. Than I guess I have the same question for her. Sandlynn, could you post again about how you think the sort of relationship Rory had with her dad affects her now (or affected her). Thanks.

Not I. At least nothing recent.

I can certainly think of ways it has affected her, some of which I posted in the deep, dark past. For instance, Rory's need to people please and not rock the boat is all part and parcel of her subconscious feeling that she is the reason her parents weren't together, that her father wasn'tt around, and that her Hayden grandparents never accepted her. Also a father (Chris) helps to give a growing girl self-esteem in a way a mother cannot. For example, by complimenting her on not only how attractive she is but how smart and wonderful in every way. Note the scene in WBB, where Rory asks if Chris liked that Lorelai kissed him first and he says, "who could not like being kissed by a Gilmore Girl?" And Rory smiled and looked down shyly. She was getting a little dose of that special female confidence and self-esteem vis-a-vis males from her dad right there. It should've been something ingrained in her (and in that one instant, it gave her the confidence to approach Logan.) The absense of that sort of fatherly "petting and confidence boosting" throughout her formative years would tend to make her a doormat for men later in life, because she'd want to please men to keep them around.

Mag13 · 12-15-2006, 10:38 AM

What's new?

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So, I wonder how Richard will react to his medical thing. I mean, since we have been told he survives, what will happen?
-Will he recover fully?
-Will he have any sort of an epiphany?
-Will he be angry if he has to deal with any long term issues
-How will he react to his family? Will he want to be close to them? Or push them away?

1/Yes
2/ No
3/ Yes
4/ Richard has a light amnesia - he knows, Lorelai will get married on June 3 to Luke, and doesn't remember Chris!

Would be funny!
Category - wishful thinking!

June_10001 · 12-15-2006, 10:45 AM

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don't worry they are going to be okay in the end.

ETA: DS has signed extra episodes

DS signed for more episodes a while ago, has he signed for even more episodes now?

Cappuccino · 12-15-2006, 10:46 AM

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Well, I think it's amusing that the moment we learn that Logan might be at the hospital as well the specs turn to, "what will that mean for Luke?" "How will Luke and he interact?" "How will he help get Lorelai and Luke together?" "How will he take Chris to task?" Because we all know, that that's what Logan's role would be, to be there for the greater glory of L&L.… Rory? Who's she?

Ok I think I missed those specs but I for my part didn't even think about that. Why should Logan have something to do with LL ? He's there for Rory and maybe Emily or have some encouraging words for Lorelai but Luke ? Luke's busy running around doing things for Emily and watching out for Lorelai (if that is even going to happen). Logan has nothing to do with LL or Prince Charming.

caf123 · 12-15-2006, 10:53 AM

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DS signed for more episodes a while ago, has he signed for even more episodes now?

DS was offered more eps a while ago - but he hadn't signed, as far as we knew.

He has now signed, according to Genki's spoiler. I've seen numbers like 2, 4 or maybe somewhere 5 eps mentioned - not sure if anyone's supplied a number as an actual spoiler yet.

Cappuccino · 12-15-2006, 11:02 AM

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DS was offered more eps a while ago - but he hadn't signed, as far as we knew.

He has now signed, according to Genki's spoiler. I've seen numbers like 2, 4 or maybe somewhere 5 eps mentioned - not sure if anyone's supplied a number as an actual spoiler yet.

DS himself said at the launch party they were in talks for 3 more eps but I don't know if that is the case anymore.

lilmelodie · 12-15-2006, 11:46 AM

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DS himself said at the launch party they were in talks for 3 more eps but I don't know if that is the case anymore.

Remember when we actually used to get real spoilers?

lemon tart · 12-15-2006, 11:53 AM

Oh, Babs, there's another way to contrast Logan offering to help by calling whoever the east coast Michael Debakey in for a consult. It's not like the guy has to come to New Haven or Hartford even. Anyway, the problem with Chris & the knit-a-thon wasn't that he gave the money, it was how he went about it. Had he talked to Lorelai, she could have told him to hold off till they finished, that no matter how much griping everyone was doing they were having a good time. Give what was needed to achieve their goal at the end, instead of how he did it.

Logan, I would guess, wouldn't just call someone in on his own, but talk to Rory first, ask her if she wants him to offer help and assistance to Emily in the form of a 2nd opinion consult and only after that he could arrange, likely through Mitchum, someone to come in and offer that 2nd opinion.

lancer1993 · 12-15-2006, 12:01 PM

I don't care if Logan offers to help find a specialist but I think it wont be about money it will be more about Logan knowing someone, maybe someone in his family went through the same thing so he knows someone?

As for Luke I hope he is now there is his flannel and cap, I know it's not very Luke but I hope he's dressed up, maybe how ever her end up there he was getting ready to go out, would he miss (or all most miss) an appointment with the lawyer or court to help Lorelai and Emily?