Spoilers - Gilmore Girls S&S #112 ~ GG gives new meaning to "Deck the Halls" - Page 19

damselfly · 12-05-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SarahloveLogan

Huh. Did you even watch this part? Logan had ALREADY said he knew Marty when they were at the Yale cafeteria.

Huh. My mistake. Guess I misheard it. He still knew Marty independently from Rory, and could've just as easily said he knew Marty from bartending at a party, whether he knew him by name or not. I still stand by my opinion, Logan didn't need to say what he said -- he could've deferred to Rory and Marty and let them tell Lucy. We'll never know whether or not they would have because he didn't give them the chance.

iamsher · 12-05-2006, 08:55 PM

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I just didn't read it as stripping someone of their dignity. I am more prone to think lying to someone for months is disrespectful. He never said Rory introduced him to Marty. He said Marty introduced him to Rory, which is true. I remember because I wanted to kick him and his smirk through the wall, or something else equally slayer-y. Now, maybe I wouldn't mind bringing down in the wall in a different, yet still slayer-y fashion.

Ah that makes more sense. I was reading her post wrong.

iamsher · 12-05-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by damselfly (View Post)

Huh. My mistake. Guess I misheard it. He still knew Marty independently from Rory, and could've just as easily said he knew Marty from bartending at a party, whether he knew him by name or not. I still stand by my opinion, Logan didn't need to say what he said -- he could've deferred to Rory and Marty and let them tell Lucy. We'll never know whether or not they would have because he didn't give them the chance.

And lie even further? Wonderful relationship they have there.

SarahLovesLogan · 12-05-2006, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by damselfly (View Post)

Huh. My mistake. Guess I misheard it. He still knew Marty independently from Rory, and could've just as easily said he knew Marty from bartending at a party, whether he knew him by name or not. I still stand by my opinion, Logan didn't need to say what he said -- he could've deferred to Rory and Marty and let them tell Lucy. We'll never know whether or not they would have because he didn't give them the chance.

Yes, he did know Marty independently from Rory, which is why he SAID he knew Marty, FROM BARTENDING when they were all in the Yale cafeteria.

It was in a separate scene, at the restaurant, where Logan said Marty introduced Rory to Logan.

Anyway, I vote for Jason's Angel/Spike title, just because. LOL!

-Genevieve- · 12-05-2006, 08:58 PM

The ep is finally going to start out here. I can grab the next thread.

Titles?

Nice time for a hiatus CW. You JERKS! - 1 1/2

Emily, you decided to share that NOW? - 1/2

Sometimes You've Got To Fight.

Chris & Luke? Nah, More Like Spike & Angel. - 4

The Snow STILL Does Not Lie.

Confusion in the Hollow for the Holidays.

Two Gilmore Girls, two troubled relationships, ONE long Holiday

Tara Ashley · 12-05-2006, 09:01 PM

Thanks for all the welcomes, guys! This forum is going to be wonderful when I get my first real job in a year or so and am bored in the office...though that's an unlikely scenario considering I'm a journalism major

I didn't think there was anything *******-like about what Logan did. He acted out of jealousy but there is a good deal of logic behind what he did. I mean, it's a bit ridiculous that the friendship was kept secret all that time. I like Logan too much, anyways, to be bothered by a stupid move he made. He has good intentions most of the time. And frankly, I don't care enough about this story line to be angry at Logan.

I like that all of you are being pretty optimistic about the marraige falling apart. I guess I just expected more out of this episode. I think what I'm really waiting for is for Lorelai to have some sort of breakdown or emotional scene in which she addresses a lot of things that have gone unspoken of. I'd love for her to admit that things were rushed or that she'll never be over Luke or, at least, that she is truly unhappy. I want one of those "aha" scenes- one where everything starts to make sense. Wedding Bell Blues was extremely dramatic, but it was executed brilliantly- there is no reason that this elopement and surrounding events couldn't have been handled just as well. I am truly dissappointed in the writers.

And I have to say that Lauren Graham is way, way WAY too good of an actress to be deprived of heart-wrenching scene this season. I miss her poignant monologues from seasons 1-5 and from the ultimatum in "Partings".

God bless Luke Danes (and SP)! He is incredible, actor-wise and character-wise. Props to DR, I guess, for maintaining that.

Pray for good Ausiello spoilers tomorrow, guys!!!

Javalava86 · 12-05-2006, 09:01 PM

How about this for a title,
Confusion in the Hollow for the Holidays. Or,
Two Gilmore Girls, two troubled relationships, ONE long Holiday

lorelai_loves_luke · 12-05-2006, 09:02 PM

i loved this ep. awkward gg, love it. i like that rory has a friend storyline, however weird. and i thought the fight was great (though the cinematography could have been better). the idea behind it was that these men are ruining each other's lives and how can you sit back and act like thats not true - i mean, they are both living in SH. how does anyone expect them to live like that without occasionally kicking the ***** out of each other.

GEORGEIII · 12-05-2006, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by -Genevieve- (View Post)

The ep is finally going to start out here. I can grab the next thread.

Titles?

Nice time for a hiatus CW. You JERKS! - 1

Emily, you decided to share that NOW?

Sometimes You've Got To Fight.

Chris & Luke? Nah, More Like Spike & Angel. - 1

The Snow STILL Does Not Lie.

I will always vote for a Buffy reference, so I vote for the Spike & Angel title.

jalapeno_wildchild · 12-05-2006, 09:07 PM

loved tonights episode. hey Gen i'm putting my two cents on Nice Time For A Hiatus CW.You Jerks! and Emily, You Decided To Share That Now. i like them both.

damselfly · 12-05-2006, 09:08 PM

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And lie even further? Wonderful relationship they have there.

He knew Marty first from bartending -- how is that lying?

SarahLovesLogan · 12-05-2006, 09:12 PM

damselfly, you seriously should watch those TWO scenes again. I think you are mixing up the order in which things happened. Logan admitted he knew Marty from bartending BEFORE anything at the restaurant happened.

Captain Hawkeye · 12-05-2006, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lorelai_loves_luke (View Post)

i loved this ep. awkward gg, love it. i like that rory has a friend storyline, however weird. and i thought the fight was great (though the cinematography could have been better). the idea behind it was that these men are ruining each other's lives and how can you sit back and act like thats not true - i mean, they are both living in SH. how does anyone expect them to live like that without occasionally kicking the ***** out of each other.

I don't think the cinematography could have been better--otherwise the use of stunt doubles would be obvious.

Remember they had Casablanca end at night with fog in the desert so you couldn't see that outside the open doors of the Warner Bros stage was another stage

nst · 12-05-2006, 09:13 PM

Gilmore Girls
by Robin Honig December 5, 2006: Let's Get Ready to Rumble!
Ladies and gentleman! In this corner, we have lightweight Christopher Hayden! Prep school flunkie! Former dead-beat dad! Total metrosexual! Newly minted millionaire! Recently married to Lorelai Gilmore. And in that corner, we have heavyweight Luke Danes! Diner owner! Public school grad! New father to a teen he didn’t know existed! Total tough guy! Regular middle-class Joe. Recently engaged to Lorelai Gilmore. Let’s get ready to ruuuuuumble!

Now I’m not one for violence, and I usually look away when things get brutal. But this was one smack-down I was not going to miss. I was shocked that Chris, the kind of guy who gets manicures and facials, could even hold his own against lunky Luke. But he got in a few good punches before Luke socked him right across the jaw, knocking him to the ground. That didn’t stop scrappy Chris from lunging back at Luke. (Nothing says Merry Christmas like two grown men rolling around the town square, taking down the Stars Hollow Christmas Tree and crushing all the decorations.) The best part, really, is that neither one of them won. They both got up, dusted themselves off, circled each other like two rabid dogs, then turned and walked away. Which only means one thing: this ain’t over. Not even close.

We all know why Luke is pissed. He lost his woman, literally, overnight. But Chris? What’s he got against “the diner guy”? (Okay, Luke did punch him in the face once, but Chris knew he deserved it, and let it go.) Well, for starters, Lorelai won’t leave the house that Luke rebuilt. Chris did seem pretty cool about staying, but living there has to creep him out just a little bit. And it didn’t help that Lorelai, Luke and Doula made such a happy-looking family. Did you see the look on Chris’s face when he saw them together outside the market? (By the way, I stand corrected: last week I said Chris didn’t want more kids. But that was before he saw his wife cooing over Luke’s newborn niece. Nothing like a little jealousy to get the testosterone flowing.) And I can understand why Chris would be mad that Lorelai planned an entire wedding for Luke (in one day, remember?) but she didn’t want to have one with him. (Though he is forgetting a few important things: Luke wasn’t involved in any of the wedding plans; now Lorelai has to deal with pushy Emily. Can you blame her for not wanting a foofy wedding?) But Chris was right about one thing. When Lorelai told her mother she eloped to avoid a wedding, he quickly corrected her. “No, we eloped because we love each other and want to be together forever.” For a second I actually felt bad for him. Clearly, that’s what pushed Chris over the edge. But that didn’t give him the right to try to punch Luke’s (and Stars Hollow’s) lights out.

Ever since Chris quickly moved in on a fragile Lorelai, someone needed to help her find her footing. And surprisingly, it was Emily Gilmore, the only one smart enough to notice the marriage is in trouble. When she told Lorelai that marriage is serious business, and is all about compromise, she wasn’t exactly imparting pearls of wisdom. But then she reminded Lorelai that her trademark pride and her need to win every argument will destroy the marriage. Those words prove that no one knows her better than her mother, even if Lorelai is loathe to admit it. Perhaps this will send her on the right path. Because neither Luke nor Chris can help her do that

MickeyJr3000 · 12-05-2006, 09:14 PM

Okay...so after all this hype about the fight, that's all it was.

A big hunk load of *****cra@p. No buildup. Just two guys start attacking eachother and look like idiots.

Worst. Scene. Ever. I wish I had covered my eyes for it.

Fortunately, I managed to cover my eyes for half of the C/L bed scene because that was just gross.

Rory's story has become almost non-existant. Writers, what the hell are you doing with our show!?!?!?!

Also...nice L/L baby moment. Otherwise, I would really appreciate if Jackson wasn't directing episodes in the future...or ever.