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Old 05-01-2007, 09:58 PM
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If luke were to sing this is what i would like him to sing:



I used to live alone before I knew you
I have scene your flag on a marrble arch

Love is not a victory march
Its a cold and its a broken hallujah
hallujah
hallujah

There was a time
when you let me know
whats real
and going on below
and now you don't really show it to me, do you?
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every breath we drew was hallejah

hallejah
hallejah
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Old 05-01-2007, 09:59 PM
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I dunno if this has been said or not but. . .

LG is DEFINITELY a solid alto singer. Heard her on Ellen and in Because I Said So. I think IWALY was just a little too high for her and it worked out well, if only because she was supposed to be drunk/tipsy when she sang it.

It was definitely her singing, just not quite in her comfort zone.

(Says the former university vocal major)
I disagree -- I think if you asked LG to sing that song in real life, it would be a solid, great performance. You can hear the solid alto, as you said, in her voice. But what she delivered was a "Lorelai" performance...
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I disagree -- I think if you asked LG to sing that song in real life, it would be a solid, great performance. You can hear the solid alto, as you said, in her voice. But what she delivered was a "Lorelai" performance...

Oh, I'm not debating any of that. It's just that, at least personally, I find it REALLY hard to sing 'improperly' now that I've had all this formal training and I have to assume that she's had some kind of training, formal or not, if she was in an A Capella group. It was a very Lorelai performance, but it was all LG.

Re: the solid performance. Depending on how well she knew the song before hand. . . I mean, I'm a solid singer, but I did You're So Vain recently at Karaoke and it was sounding a lot like LG's IWALY because I didn't know it as well as I should have.
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:14 PM
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You're so vain, what a coincidence, only this time, the song IS about him (Luke) ....

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Old 05-01-2007, 10:16 PM
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Oh, I'm not debating any of that. It's just that, at least personally, I find it REALLY hard to sing 'improperly' now that I've had all this formal training and I have to assume that she's had some kind of training, formal or not, if she was in an A Capella group. It was a very Lorelai performance, but it was all LG.

Re: the solid performance. Depending on how well she knew the song before hand. . . I mean, I'm a solid singer, but I did You're So Vain recently at Karaoke and it was sounding a lot like LG's IWALY because I didn't know it as well as I should have.
Just joining in as another college voice major. I get what you mean. It is hard to sing badly. And I just haven't ever heard LG sing really well. Some people just don't have great solo voices but they work well in groups because they sing in tune and can hold their part.
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:19 PM
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Another WOW!!!! It was one of the best LL scenes ever, and I love the way Rory and the town were there to witness it. We need that 8th season of LL if this is what we'll get!

I don't want the denial, but I understand it if it happens the way I imagine. I think Lorelai is embarrassed about letting the town in on her feelings and failed relationships again. She's regretting the public setting for her seranade and certainly isn't going to admit to anyone else, even Rory, how she really feels for him until after/if something happens with him. I think Miss Patty confronts her in the diner or someplace public, and in that situation I can understand the denial. I think they can make the denial/hurt aspect work, but I wish they could work it out in the same ep. Since I can't see them doing that but not kissing, I guess it'll be in 7.22. Fingers crossed that won't be the last GG ever.
Guess DSR got my email about Lorelai seranade Luke LOL

I was thinking outside the Diner late at night but this works also
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:26 PM
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Go Genki Thanks for the new thread.

Off watching the episode now
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Gilmore Girls: Lorelai? Lorelai? - TV Squad

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(S07E20) I really find it hard to feel sorry for Rory Gilmore. Yes, she grew up without a father for the most part, and for much of her young life, she and her mother Lorelai struggled to keep their heads above water. But, for the most part. Rory has been able to achieve whatever she's set her mind to achieving. Until now, of course.

There are worse things that can happen to a person than not getting a New York Times internship: dismemberment, irritable bowel syndrome, bad haircuts, and at least a couple of other things. But she's gotten so much in her life that not having a job when she graduates seems like a complete disaster to her.
Jeez, I wish I was facing her kind of disaster when I was graduating college. Well, glad the writers -- through the voice of Lorelai -- decided to set Rory straight.

"Rory gets what Rory wants," is how Lor put it to Luke, and she's definitely right. I also liked the fact that she gave Rory a very gentle lecture about gaining from perspective about not having everything come so easy in life, etc. etc. Of course, most parents would be saying that lecture with a raised voice, and sprinkled with a lot of "hells," "damns," and "spoiled brats" (oh, maybe that was just my parents), but, either way, Rory needs to consider herself lucky. After busting her ass at Yale for four years, who wouldn't want a summer off to take a break or backpack around Europe or even just drink coffee at Luke's every day? I went to work less than a month after I graduated college, and it was one of the worst decisions I ever made. Luckily, Lor's words and a night of watching Miss Patty and Babette warbling showtunes set her straight.

Oh, and on what fantasy planet does a peon for the Times get to rub elbows with Bill Keller (no relation) and Maureen Dowd? If Rory really wants to see her byline in the Gray Lady, then all she really needs to do is, I don't know, send a travel editor an idea about going to visit old diners in New England towns... oops, that's already been done. But I'm sure she'd be full of ideas for freelance articles. Probably an easier road than getting an internship that only has two slots open.

What did you folks think of that opening dream sequence? Rory getting "kicked out" of Chilton (nice to see the headmaster again), then seeing Lorelai bolt to Hawaii, then noticing that Dr. Paris and Washington Post editor Doyle are now occupying her mother's house. All odd. Though the Photoshops of Paris and Doyle with Bono and Hillary Clinton were nice little touches.

So, was this a high-budget episode? This has to be the first episode this season where I've seen almost the entire cast, short of Jackson, Michel, Kirk and Taylor. We have Richard and Emily, Luke, Caesar, April, Miss Patty, Babette, Zack, Logan, Sookie, Paris, Doyle, Kirk (thanks, folks! I must have missed him) and even a guest appearance by the new mother, Lane.

Lane! Boy, I completely forgot about her until I saw her putting Steve and Kwan to bed. For a person who lives 90 minutes away from New York, she and Zack got around the city's music scene, didn't they? Bowery Ballroom, Mercury Lounge... heck, they even knew the cool clubs in DC! Anyway, good to see Zack get his chance. But you knew that Lane was going to have to stay home. Just ask my sister-in-law how tough it is to take care of twins; doing it from the back of a tour bus was going to be impossible. But she was mature enough to insist that Zack go on the tour, knowing what kind of opporunity it was. She's right; motherhood has made her mature, much more mature than her best friend Rory, who thought she was going to be sharing cafeteria tables with Frank Rich.

Ok, so why do you think Luke really went back to the blue hat? Was it a gesture to Lorelai, symbolizing their repaired friendship? Or was it simply because he lost his other hat? It's an intriguing question. Of course, we need to ask the other side: It seemed that Lorelai's rendition of "I Will Always Love You" was going pretty well until she saw Luke. Then she quickly regained her drunken composure and belted out the song while looking directly at him. So... is she expressing more than friendship there? Or is that the "my blue hat" gesture that she talked about with Sookie? We may only have two other episodes to find out.

And, poor Luke. That brain of April's is always getting in the way of his father-daughter bonding. You know he was disappointed when she called him about the science camp, but you also knew he'd never stand in her way, six week boat trip be damned. Besides, it'll give him a chance to fall in love with Lorelai all over again, right?

Finally... Logan. I can't remember, but did the CW promo department ruin the final scene for us during last week's "coming attractions"? I think they did. Somehow, I knew what was coming as soon as he said to Lorelai, "I came to see you." So, Logan is going to be a partner in a Silicon Valley startup and he wants Rory to marry him and move away. I think that speechless look on Lorelai's face at the end of the episode (hence the episode's title) was more of a look of horror at the thought of her daughter and best friend being 3,000 miles away. She knows she needs to cut the cord, but she never figured that Rory might end up so far away. Curious to see how that develops.

This was a nice episode in the traditional Gilmore vein. I'll give it a 5.
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:46 PM
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Thanks again blaab, so quick!!!
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:52 PM
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Thanks for the new thread genki.

When Lorelai invited Luke to the bar and he turned her down leaving her to go into the kitchen, her reaction and expression showed how uncomfortable and foolish she felt trying to get him to do something with her she obviously felt he didn’t want to do.

When he walked into the bar, her tone changed instantly as she focused on him and sang to him from her heart. That along with the lyrics she was singing at that moment (“bittersweet memories that all I’m taking with me, so goodbye”) seem to indicate that she had given up any hope of him wanting her back in his life and was actually saying goodbye to him.

At the point when Lorelai sings, “we both know I’m not what you need” notice Rory’s reaction. She turns around to look at Lorelai in realization and sadness that her mother still loves Luke and believes that he does not want or love her anymore.

I felt so uncomfortable watching Lorelai pour her heart out to Luke in that song and was doing all kinds of crazy stretching or shifting to take some of my focus off the scene.

The morning after, Rory acted as if nothing happened the night before and told Lorelai that “some times you just have to let your feelings out”. Lorelai’s response “yeah, some times you do” and her sadness showed that she really meant everything she said to Luke in song but had no hope that anything would come of it.

Reading your post glo from the previous thread, it seems like we are both thinking along similar lines.
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Thanks for the new thread genki.

When Lorelai invited Luke to the bar and he turned her down leaving her to go into the kitchen, her reaction and expression showed how uncomfortable and foolish she felt trying to get him to do something with her she obviously felt he didn’t want to do.

When he walked into the bar, her tone changed instantly as she focused on him and sang to him from her heart. That along with the lyrics she was singing at that moment (“bittersweet memories that all I’m taking with me, so goodbye”) seem to indicate that she had given up any hope of him wanting her back in his life and was actually saying goodbye to him.

At the point when Lorelai sings, “we both know I’m not what you need” notice Rory’s reaction. She turns around to look at Lorelai in realization and sadness that her mother still loves Luke and believes that he does not want or love her anymore.

I felt so uncomfortable watching Lorelai pour her heart out to Luke in that song and was doing all kinds of crazy stretching or shifting to take some of my focus off the scene.

The morning after, Rory acted as if nothing happened the night before and told Lorelai that “some times you just have to let your feelings out”. Lorelai’s response “yeah, some times you do” and her sadness showed that she really meant everything she said to Luke in song but had no hope that anything would come of it.

Reading your post glo from the previous thread, it seems like we are both thinking along similar lines.

ITA. BUT, I'm still wondering why Lorelai thinks that Luke doesn't reciprocate her feelings.
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Did anyone want the complete mp3 of IWALY?
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What did you think of the karaoke scene, gossipcom?
And thanks for the mp3.
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What did you think of the karaoke scene, gossipcom?
And thanks for the mp3.
I enjoyed it - I was waiting to see how the final cut would turn out, because sometimes when you see stuff about those kinds of scenes can change dramatically if they edit it not the way you think they will. So overall I really enjoyed the scene and was happy with the final version of it.

Catching up here - thanks genki for the new thread.

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Quite a few times, but luckily at the same time with what they do with scenes like that is record the audio first, which meant Liz, Sally, Sean and herself didn't lose their voices completely by the end of the shoot
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