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Old 05-11-2007, 02:06 PM
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Gilmore Girls ~ Luke/Lorelai Analysis & Speculation
Big Fat Freakin' Kiss

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Gilmore Girls Cancelled by CW

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Episode Descriptions & Spoilers: Season 7


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KTLA in California will repeat ep 7.21 this Saturday, May 12, at 8pm
(because Tuesday’s show was interrupted by live wildfire news)


Episode 7.22: Bon Voyage
Air date: 15 May 2007

Written by: David Rosenthal
Directed by: Lee Shallat Chemel


The CW: STARS HOLLOW THROWS RORY A GRADUATION PARTY / CNN JOURNALIST CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR MAKES A GUEST APPEARANCE — Just as Rory (Alexis Bledel) lands her dream job as a political reporter, Luke (Scott Patterson) enlists the help of everyone in Stars Hollow to throw her a graduation party. Emily (Kelly Bishop) and Richard (Edward Herrmann) attend the huge party, where Rory makes a speech thanking Lorelai (Lauren Graham) and the whole town for giving her such a great start in life. Luke’s thoughtfulness brings out an unexpected reaction from Lorelai (Lauren Graham). Finally, on the morning that Rory leaves Stars Hollow to start her career, Luke opens the diner before dawn to share a celebratory breakfast with the Gilmore girls. CNN journalist Christiane Amanpour makes a cameo appearance as a guest at the Dragonfly Inn. Melissa McCarthy, Keiko Agena, Yanic Truesdale and Sean Gunn also star.

The Futon Critic: Lorelai (Lauren Graham) and Luke (Scott Patterson) come to a new understanding, Stars Hollow throws a huge graduation party for Rory, and CNN journalist Christiane Amanpour guest stars in the episode titled "Bon Voyage."


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Other Spoilers:


Luke kisses Lorelai back - courtesy of lancer

L/L kiss - courtesy of lancer

No L/L sex scene this season - courtesy of Saranoh

Luke and Lorelai romantically involved by end of season - courtesy of lancer

LG Encounter - courtesy of zoobymoo


Ask Ausiello:

May 9 2007: It's all about 7.22

May 2 2007: More about The Kiss

April 25 2007: The Kiss

April 18 2007: Season 8 Announcement Imminent

April 11 2007: Things are looking up

Mar 28 2007: I Will Always Love You

Mar 21 2007: Rory's grad is not the finale.

Mar 14 2007: LL fight ends positively!

Mar 07 2007: Car Shopping, Fighting, and Singing - Oh My!

Feb 28 2007: Welcome back to the diner?

Feb 14 2007: Apologies All Around

Jan 31 2007: Married? Just kidding.

Jan 23 2007: Married, baby, 8th season

Dec 20 2006: Lorelai and Christopher Fall Out

Dec 6 2006: Luke in, Christopher out

Nov 15 2006: Troubles ahead for LC, Luke helps Emily

Nov 8 2006: Poignant & Green

Nov 1 2006: Blah, blah, blah

Apr 25 2006: Reaction to interview


Ausiello Report/Vodcast:

May 12 2007: Scott Patterson's Final Gilmore Girls Interview

May 10 2007: More from his "Final" LG Interview on the Vodcast


May 09 2007: Lauren Graham's Final Gilmore Girls Interview

May 02 2007: Gilmore Season 8 Talks at a "Standstill"

Apr 15 2007: Short Season 8?

Apr 10 2007: More Emotion Please

Mar 15 2007: Christiane Amanpour Makes An Appearance

Feb 28 2007: Lorelai enters the diner

Jan 29 2007: LG gets producer credits

Oct 24 2006: DR Interview about elopement

Sept 14 2006: Spoilerganza

July 17 2006: Interview with Dave Rosenthal

July 17 2006: TCA Summer Press Tour

June 7 2006: Interview with Lauren Graham

Apr 24 2006: Interview with Amy & Dan



General Spoilers:
*if you have a general spoiler to share, please PM the thread starter so that they can update the list below*


LG on Ellen May 8 - courtesy of gossipcom

More about those season 8 Negotiations - Part II - courtesy of SassyPaws from TWOP

List of articles about cancellation

SP holding deal with WB studios - courtesy of SPA - more info courtesy of Gossipcom

LG & David Grae/Rosenthal interviews - courtesy of gilmore maniac & Mots15

Ausiello Right About S8 - courtesy of sportygirl@TWoP

Sookie doesn't attend graduation - courtesy of Saranoh

Season 8 looks more likely than not courtesy of SassyPaws

Season 8 decision already made - courtesy of AkaranafeatMeeko, Saranoh & dirty twin

More on S8 - courtesy of SassyPaws@TWoP

Doll house is back next to the new TV - courtesy of glo

MM Cast in Pilot - courtesy of caf123




Tour Reports:


April 13th Tour Info more.- courtesy of LoopyGiggles@TV.com

April 12th Tour Info - courtesy of sd6@TwoP

April 12th Tour info – courtesy of cchurley@TWoP

April 11th Tour Info - courtesy of alwaysbeenyou

April 10th Tour Info - courtesy of malangue

April 9th Tour Info pics– courtesy of angel312@TWoP

April 4th & 6th Tour Info – courtesy of Katiegg108

April 4th Tour Info – courtesy of lulu1960@TWoP

April 2nd Tour Info – courtesy of lulu1960 & angel312@TWoP

March 7th Tour Info - courtesy of Tru_Slayer@TV.Com

March 19th Tour Info - courtesy of little_earthquake

March 16th Tour Info - courtesy of BigB

March 16th Tour Info More - courtesy of glo1196@mac.com



Video and Promos:



7.22 Global Promo - courtesy of 2ggObsessed

7.22 Global Promo on YouTube - courtesy of gossipcom

7.22 Extended promo - courtesy of Jet1945

Extended Promo on YouTube - courtesy of Withbatedbreath

Audio promo courtesy- Caf123

722 Directors cut-courtesy of Wheredidtheanvilsgo

Directors cut on youtube courtesy of Pimbolina

722 DC-Avi version-courtesy of Cappucciono

LG 'Ellen' interview on YouTube - courtesy of blaab

722 Promo - courtesy of fan1bsb97

722 Promo on You Tube - courtesy of Cappuccino

721 Promo – courtesy of fan1bsb97

7.21 Director's Cut on YouTube - courtesy of pimbolina

7.21 Director's Cut avi version - courtesy of ~JJ_lunatic~

7.21 CW Extended Promo on YouTube - courtesy of Cappuccino

7.20 Global & CW promos on YouTube - courtesy of Cappuccino

7.20 Director's Cut on YouTube – courtesy of Capp

7.20 Promo on YouTube – courtesy of genki

7.20 Promo – courtesy of fan1bsb97

Liza Weil Video Interview

Ed Herrmann Video Interview



Podcast and Clip Transcripts:


Global 7.22 Promo – aired Friday, May 11, 2007 – courtesy of 2ggobsessed

11 May 2007 Podcast - courtesy of GGAva

04 May 2007 Podcast - courtesy of GGAva

7.21 Directors Cut Transcript - courtesy of Lancer

27 April 2007 Podcast - courtesy of GGAva

7.20 Global Promo Transcript – courtesy of 2ggobsessed

7.20 Director's Cut Transcript - courtesy of lancer

EH Interview Transcript

LW Interview Transcript

20 April 2007 Podcast - courtesy of lorelaisgirl



Clips:

Episode 7.21: Unto the Breach
Episode clips - courtesy of blaab
LL diner scenes courtesy of 2ggObsessed

Episode 7.20: Lorelai? Lorelai?
Episode clips - courtesy of blaab
IWALY karaoke clip courtesy of Jet1945 - YouTube courtesy of Genki - mp3 courtesy of Gossipcom

Episode 7.19: Just Like Riding A Bike:
Episode clips - LL scenes only courtesy of fan1bsb97
Episode clips - courtesy of blaab

Season 7 Episodes

Unaired Pilot - courtesy of blaab



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9 minutes to go for the podcast...
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The show didn't have to END with a wedding you idiots. The wedding could have been in the middle of the show. Have you thought about that for a change ????
That's right Cappuccino! I have never wanted the show to end with a wedding. That would have been another cliche. I wanted to see LL as a married couple for way more than just 2 seconds.

So it's interesting MA asked SP about his relationship with LG but doesn't want to give away the answer just yet... Also MA got the impression from Lauren emphasizing the word dinner that it was actually a date with DS. Somehow I'm not surprised, but so what. I'm sure DS is a nice guy, I just hate the character he plays.

The idea of a "Where are they now" thread sounds good!
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I know he went after the final was done, do we know it was that day 'cause I thought we had a report the final scene was the final scene to be shot?
He left on the Saturday as far as I know and they finished filming on the Sunday. I could be wrong though.. I can't be bothered to check.
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I asked on the end of the last thread.

"I know he (SP) went after the final was done, do we know it was that day (of the cast photo) 'cause I thought we had a report the final scene was the final scene to be shot?"

So do we know when the final scene was shot and was SP just off the day the photo was taken and not off to his movie?

ETA - thanks Wheredidtheanvilsgo? but I thought (as I said) we had a studio tour report that the town square was cleaned up and they were setting up something at the diner, the final scene.
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Thank you CAPPUCCINO for the new thread !

Bringing this over from the last one !


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Maybe he announces their engagement (Scott and Lauren) LOL

THEN every crappy SL of Season 6 and 7 would be forgiven, and i would join Kirk when he will run naked through the Hollow !

BTW...any news about that favourite pair of MA who can`t stand each other ?!?
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That's right Cappuccino! I have never wanted the show to end with a wedding. That would have been another cliche. I wanted to see LL as a married couple for way more than just 2 seconds.

So it's interesting MA asked SP about his relationship with LG but doesn't want to give away the answer just yet... Also MA got the impression from Lauren emphasizing the word dinner that it was actually a date with DS. Somehow I'm not surprised, but so what. I'm sure DS is a nice guy, I just hate the character he plays.
I didn't think the series finale should be a wedding either, but I did feel we should see a wedding. I know others have there own interps, and I'll admit, it stems partly from my personal "wedding/marriage=commitment" notion, but more than anything....I just thought LL should have a wedding, I always just thought the wedding was suppossed to be apart of Lorelai's story.....but I'm learning to let go.

And the part apart DS & LG dating.....yep, not surprised. maybe that's why i always saw their sexual chemistry as off. remember that line in Friends about how once you sleep w/ someone off screen, the on screen chemistry is gone? Friends...good times


oooo....Rory's Birthday Parties is on! "Will you marry me?" Bittersweet, bittersweet
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He left on the Saturday. Thats what I can track down. Doesn't matter anyway. He wasn't there but they didn't know if they were coming back or not so I can understand that. Anyway, MA and his monkeys are tools.

I still think the first post or second for that matter should be changed into a celebration of Gilmore Girls moments and special Luke and Lorelai moments. Am I really the only one who wants that?
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The last last episode summary again:

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Episode 7.22: Bon Voyage Air date: 15 May 2007

Written by: David S. Rosenthal
Directed by: Lee Shallat Chemel

The teaser: it's Rory and Lorelai at the CS. Rory is getting her 73 resumes stamped. They are talking about their trip and all the rollercoasters they are gonna go on.


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LORELAI'S HOUSE – RORY'S ROOM
[Lorelai is on the bed with a Laptop]

LORELAI: All right after “Great Adventure” the next Roll-a-coaster would be here at Lake Compounds, home of the “Boulder Dash”.
RORY: Love it.
LORELAI: “The number one choice of wooden roll-a-coasters” according to Mr Arthur Levin of about.com.
RORY: Oh yes the venerable Mr Levin, a legend in coast criticism.
LORELAI: So you’ve heard of him.
RORY: Well of course what coast connoisseur hasn’t?
LORELAI: “Great air time” he says “smooth ride, relentless speed from start to finish” you can admit it if you’re scared.
RORY: What I’m not scared, are you scared?
LORELAI: No I’m not scared, I’m not the one who screams.
RORY: That happened once.
LORELAI: Really busted my eardrums.
RORY: You want to keep talking smack or you want to tell me what comes after the Boulder Dash?
LORELAI: How about the “Cyclone” in Coney Island. And then we can head west to the “Milium Force” Ohio, this calls it a “Giga Roll-a-coaster”.
RORY: You know what I say, no hands, eyes open that’s right you heard me.
LORELAI: I’ll believe it when I see it.
RORY: Well believe it. Okay I am done, 74 résumé’s, addressed and sealed.
LORELAI: Not at all excessive.
RORY: Well I just wanted to make sure I didn’t leave a stone unturned.
LORELAI: Yes rocks, pebbles, boulders they’ve all been turned.
RORY: Well I got it all done before our big trip, can you believe it. OH man I have a lot of books.
LORELAI: Hey there is a cool “State Fare” coaster in Springfield, 50-mile detour, worth it.
RORY: Hum. Aw [pulls something out of a box].
LORELAI: Aw.
RORY: The rocket.
LORELAI: The rocket. Have you talked to him.
RORY: No. It comes in waves, you know, big ones, really close together.
LORELAI: Well the waves will get smaller, I promise. Just have to give it time you know. Have to feel sad and get through it.
RORY: Believe me I’m letting myself feel plenty sad.
LORELAI: Oh that’s good, I mean it’s not good you know, under the circumstances, it’s good.
RORY: I just can’t imagine it feeling better.
LORELAI: But it will someday I promise.
RORY: Yeah, do you feel better about Luke?
LORELAI: [Not sounding convincing] Ah, yeah I feel better because I think we’re done.
RORY: What, maybe you guys just need more time.
LORELAI: More time, I‘ve given him all the time in the world. Every time I’m venerable or I say something or do something like the song he doesn’t do anything.
RORY: We;; he’s always been a little slow to respond.
LORELAI: Yeah I don’t want to make any more excuses you know.
RORY: I just don’t think he’s over you.
LORELAI: Well it doesn’t matter, I’m over him. I need someone who can feel you know, show me how he feels. He can’t do that.
RORY: I guess that make sense.
LORELAI: Anyway we’re batter as friends you know, don’t you think. Like “Hey Luke can I get some coffee”, you know friends like that. Like “Hey Luke can you make all the burgers for Rory’s re-enactment graduation party?” you know.
RORY: What re-enactment graduation party?
LORELAI: It’s just a graduation re-enactment party we’re gonna have for all the people who couldn’t go to your actual graduation.
RORY: Re-enactment, how?
LORELAI: All you have to do is throw on that cap and gown again, you know and go up on a little podium again, that someone is gonna build and listen to the high school band play “Pomp and Circumstance”.
RORY: Mom!
LORELAI: What it’s a party, it’s gonna be fun!
RORY: Ah, you own me.
LORELAI: Okay I’ll get you lots of cotton candy and I won’t make fun of you when you scream.
RORY: I’m not gonna scream.
LORELAI: Once a screamer, always a screamer.
RORY: I was seven.
LORELAI: Like that counts.
- Someone did see them painting something on the ground inside of the DFI stage. It was a curtain of some kind and they were using stencils to paint various fish and seahorses on it. Maybe somehow that ties into the whole Bon Voyage theme?

- CNN Journalist Christiane Amanpour will make a guest appearance. Rory meets her at DFI. A scene with Rory and Lorelai.

- Lorelai and Rory plan a summer trip together but have to cancel when Rory gets a new job.

- Filming at Sookie's house. There was black tarp around the front porch, so it's a night scene at Sookie's.

- There's a nighttime scene in Sookie's in which sookie gives Lorelai a fannypack.

- Lorelai plans a Rory graduation party for all the townies.

- Rory lands her dream job as a political reporter.

- Rory is going to Iowa. She gets a job with an online magazine.

- Lorelai cancels a week before the party because there is no time with all that has to be done to get Rory off to Iowa.

- The townies are bummed since they not only missed graduation but will miss Rory's party too.

- Fearing it will rain on Rory's graduation party in Stars Hollow, Lorelai enlists Luke's help to organize the town in creating a tent out of tarps, shower curtains and other miscellaneous spare plastic.

- Lorelai tells Luke that they have to cancel a party. Lorelai cancels Rory's party, but Luke goes ahead and plans it as a surprise.

- Luke organizes tha party.

- A scene showing Sookie and Lorelai. Lorelai was tearing up and Sookie told her that this was all Luke, and that he must have stayed up all night setting up.

- A huge "Bon Voyage Rory" party in the town square, complete with dance floor, disco balls (they replaced the bell in the gazebo with a little disco ball, lol), and a big colorful tarp covering the gazebo and entire party area. There's a sign that was made that says "Bon Voyage, Rory”. It's raining on the show so the streets were all wet. There were lots of odd tables and chairs on the grass under the tarp, and all different kinds of funny lamps on the tables.

- The old jeep is alive. A scene where Lorelai (and Rory?)was driving in circles around the town square in her Jeep.
Rory and Lorelai pulling up to the party and everyone cheering.

-. Emily and Richard attend the huge party, where Rory makes a speech thanking Lorelai and the whole town for giving her such a great start in life.

- Luke’s thoughtfulness brings out an unexpected reaction from Lorelai.

- L&L walking towards eachother and then kissing.

- L&L kiss happens shortly after Luke single-handedly prevents Rory's graduation party from becoming a total washout.

- After Lorelai kisses Luke, he reciprocates as well.

- A scene with Luke and Lorelai:

Quote:
“This might be my last shot.”
“I just like to see you happy.”
“Luke”
- Lorelai and Luke come to a “new understanding”.

- We'll definitely know that L/L are together at the end, and that there is "more than a handshake" but no love/bed/sleeping together scene. It is like the end of Season 4 (when they had the kiss at the inn) and that Luke and Lorelai are kind of at the end of where they were in Season 4.

- The morning that Rory leaves Stars Hollow to start her career, Luke opens the diner before dawn to share a celebratory breakfast with the Gilmore girls.

- The final scene features three characters and, per one source, "brings the show full circle." Rory has one last meal at the diner, and the final scene of the S7 finale mirrors the final scene of the pilot.

The final scene between Lorelai and Rory, which Lauren described for me during our chat: "It ends with a shot that mirrors the closing shot of the pilot, which really represents the show. It's Lorelai and Rory sitting in the diner talking about really nothing. Just having a moment together." She added that most of the story lines get resolved by the end of the hour. "Had we come back, I think it would've been a little bit like, 'Oops, never mind!'"


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- The mansion was also set up for filming. There were 4 table settings and they were set up all sorts of weird. There was a setting at each end, with another set on the corner of each end instead of in the middle of the sides.

- They were filming in Luke's.

- Someone on the tour saw the party clothes for the extras and they were filming at Ms. Patty's. We also see Sean Gunn,Taylor, Ms. Patty, and Lorelai.

- Logan is not appearing in the finale, but is referenced during a conversation between Lorelai and Rory.

- Weston's had tables and chairs outside with some women seated at them.

-They were tearing setting up a secret set. Intrigue!

- Crap Shack stage. There was frozen pizza in the freezer, Chinese food in the fridge, and no pop tarts to be found! There was also an ironing board in the living room, but no doll house. Christopher's TV was on the wall.

- There was a room with wedding dresses, one hanging in each corner, and a table with some sort of weird shaped wedding arrangement thingy. There was a sign hanging over the table that said somebody + somebody = love.

- Tour description:

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We can't remember the names. Jay and somebody I think. It wasn't a storage room. Definitely looked like it was set up for filming a scene. The dresses looked like they were hung up on display and there was one that looked like Mrs Kim's, all old fashioned and funky. The rest were normal. One table had a centerpiece and some other decorations on it - maybe glitter or little wedding bands, that kind of stuff. Something sparkly.
- Bunches of balloons inside the church.

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- Rory says: “My mom, is just everything to me and who I’m going to miss so much.”
“If I stop to think about you leaving…I’m gonna fall apart.
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I still think the first post or second for that matter should be changed into a celebration of Gilmore Girls moments and special Luke and Lorelai moments. Am I really the only one who wants that?
Nope! Not the only one, I concur

Thanks Mag!
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I didn't think the series finale should be a wedding either, but I did feel we should see a wedding. I know others have there own interps, and I'll admit, it stems partly from my personal "wedding/marriage=commitment" notion, but more than anything....I just thought LL should have a wedding, I always just thought the wedding was suppossed to be apart of Lorelai's story.....but I'm learning to let go.

ITA !

With all the hints we got over the years...

...when you find the right person...
...LL standing under the chuppah...etc. etc...

...it was the logical way to do this...DAMNED !

But when do we had a logical SL after ASP started to screw them (especially Luke`s charakter) up ?!?
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Thanks Mag. Is that one different from the one you posted on the old thread ? I put the link under the episode so if there are any changes I'll put the new post up there.

For me a wedding between LL was a given since it was part of Lorelai's whole package and what we saw on the show over all those years. The chuppah, the talk about marriage and kids, the dance and because it was meant for them.
We had to see Luke's marriage to Nicole, Lorelai's to Chris and both had no place in that show especially not the LC marriage because is was never meant to be.
Luke/Lorelai were one of the biggest part on the show and they just took that away in the final season and now they expect from us or rather me to be happy about it. I don't think so. The LL scenes we got this year probably fit into 2 episodes and no one can tell me just because they are ending in a happy place at the end does the show and their relationship any justice.
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