Spoilers - Gilmore Girls ~ Luke/Lorelai Analysis & Speculation #394 - Page 18

lancer1993 · 04-22-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gjoni (View Post)

Lorelai should've only fallen into her own bed at the end of "Partings"!

Devastated, crazed, heartbroken, but HER bed only.

With Ben and Jerry NOT Chris!

gjoni · 04-22-2007, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lancer1993 (View Post)

With Ben and Jerry NOT Chris!

And Jerry Garcia or rather his ghost!

blaab · 04-22-2007, 12:41 PM

Ah should have ... Lorelai should have never had unprotected sex with Chris at the age of 15/16. Kirk should have never been allowed to drive a car! Luke should have never had unprotected sex with Anna at a later age. Lorelai and Rory should not be able to eat that &^#*-ing much! etc etc

Well, I think the difference is between Chris and Max, Jason, Alex, random guy ... is that he was one she did always (or well most of the time thoughout her life) feel wanted her, loved her ... let me add, in his own way

And I feel that was lacking for her so much those last months, she didn't feel loved and/or validated and I think that was what sex with Chris meant to her. I don't think it was a physical thing that needed to be taken care of, because if so YEAH than it could have been these other guys.

Oh nice suggestion there Gjoni!

Ciaobella · 04-22-2007, 12:41 PM

There once was a guy named Luke,
Whose loneliness was no fluke.
He couldn't read Lorelai's mind,
Or do two things at one time,
So he's destined to live as a eunuch.

Freshgirlly908 · 04-22-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by genki (View Post)

I am so with you there... These two need to suck it up already. Arg....sometimes I wish LL were secondary characters cause seriously they'd be married with like 3 kids by now if they were.

i know man if it doesn't happen soon i am not sure what i will do. when do we find out if GG comes back next season

Shu · 04-22-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blaab (View Post)

Ah should have ... Lorelai should have never had unprotected sex with Chris at the age of 15/16. Kirk should have never been allowed to drive a car! Luke should have never had unprotected sex with Anna at a later age. Lorelai and Rory should not be able to eat that &^#*-ing much! etc etc

Well, I think the difference is between Chris and Max, Jason, Alex, random guy ... is that he was one she did always feel wanted her, loved her ... let me add, in his own way

And I feel that was lacking for her so much those last months, she didn't feel loved and/or validated and I think that was what sex with Chris meant to her. I don't think it was a physical thing that needed to be taken care of, because if so YEAH than it could have been these other guys.

Oh nice suggestion there Gjoni!

I blame chris for the sex. Lorelai wanted comfort, he could have stopped it. Yeah, he loved her yada yada. But, he let it happen. Stupid man. Sucks to be you now, doesn't it!

Shu · 04-22-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ciaobella (View Post)

There once was a guy named Luke,
Whose loneliness was no fluke.
He couldn't read Lorelai's mind,
Or do two things at one time,
So he's destined to live as a eunuch.

Till he meets a girl named Eunice

blaab · 04-22-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by genki (View Post)

I blame chris for the sex. Lorelai wanted comfort, he could have stopped it. Yeah, he loved her yada yada. But, he let it happen. Stupid man. Sucks to be you now, doesn't it!

Oh I do have and had some raised eyebrows when it comes to Chris' role in that night. I must say I am glad he admitted that he pushed her and I feel that definitely also accounts for what happened that night and his part in this. I do not feel Lorelai jumped to be with him that night, her reaction the next morning made that very obvious. But that said, the fact that Lorelai never called him on that night, makes me feel she was maybe very convincing or whatever. If there is one scene I would have wanted to see of all these Seasons, it would be a scene which showed what happened prior to ending up in bed. But regardless of anything ... what happened that night did not only show some weakness of Lorelai, it definitely showed weakness from Chris!

**SPA** · 04-22-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ciaobella (View Post)

There once was a guy named Luke,
Whose loneliness was no fluke.
He couldn't read Lorelai's mind,
Or do two things at one time,
So he's destined to live as a eunuch.

It's cute. I like it!!!

Though it doesn't sound anything like: There once was a girl from Nantucket.....

As Finn would say: "I don't want a love poem"

Mots15 · 04-22-2007, 12:59 PM

"A wound that can only be healed by the sword that inflicted it."

Very, very interesting. And written by our own David Grae.

leonana · 04-22-2007, 12:59 PM

I agree that Lorelai isn't the strong woman we thought she was. Although I believe that is now canon, it was a retcon. She didn't get that weak until S6.

Anyway, the ep descriptions do sound depressing, about Lorelai denying her feelings. However, the promo and ep descriptions gave me a very different feeling for how the Lorelai/Logan conversation would turn out. It made it look as if she disliked Logan and would influence Rory that way. Instead, she had some problems with his past actions (totally logical for a mom), and she and he discussed it and worked it out.

So I think the song and denying her feelings will probably be the same. It will turn out better than we expect, as it seems to me that ep descriptions work that way. However, spoilers are another matter, lol. They seem to be less than we expect.

Logan admitting he made a mistake also had a good influence on Lorelai, and she admitted her mistake to Luke. Yes, it would have been nice if she had realized it on her own, but I think many times IRL, it takes a push from a third party to do something difficult.

Also, I've been thinking of Logan's admissions to Lorelai. (I'm paraphrasing here, I don't remember the dialogue exactly.) She said he acted like he didn't know he made a mistake. He said he did know, but that self-flagellation, or beating yourself up over it, is embarrassing. It doesn't get you anywhere. But that he did know he made a mistake and learned from it.

I think with the parallels the show uses, they are applying the same to Lorelai. She admitted she made a mistake, like Logan, but isn't beating herself up over it. It would be embarrassing to her and Luke.

I don't think Logan offered Lorelai an explanation for what he did, and she didn't seem to want one. She just wanted him to admit it was a mistake, which means it isn't something he is planning on doing again. I'm guessing the writers will do the same with L/L. Lorelai telling Luke that going to Chris was a mistake means that she isn't planning on doing it again. That would be his guarantee.

I realize that Logan and Lorelai's relationship is different than L/L's, and Luke does deserve more of an explanation, however, I think this is the path the writers are taking.

This show has never been much on having the characters communicate, especially under ASP. We've seen more communication under DR, IMO. However, I'm not expecting anything big with L/L. But maybe DR will surprise me.

Saranoh · 04-22-2007, 01:09 PM

I think you're probably right on the money, leonana.

CoffeeSlut · 04-22-2007, 01:11 PM

anyone have a link to the original ITS RIGHT THERE fic?

rosefurcoat · 04-22-2007, 01:11 PM

It looks like DS is in Rina Mimoun's pilot for ABC according to Alyssa Milano:

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The script is amazing (Rina has got the gift) and for the three weeks we worked in South Carolina, everything fell into place with ease. The director (Lawrence Trilling), the cast (Mary Steenburgen, James Brolin, Anna Camp, Misha Collins, Ian Kahn, David Suttcliffe)

link

vaso · 04-22-2007, 01:14 PM

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anyone have a link to the original ITS RIGHT THERE fic?

Yep Here it is CoffeeSlut