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Old 04-22-2007, 11:24 AM
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What? You mean people should actually try to see multiple sides to a situation, base their reactions on concrete events and actions rather than pessimistic speculation, and refrain from bashing one character while overlooking or excusing the actions of another? You mean this should actually be a place for reasoned, non-hysterical conversation?

Nah. What fun would that be?
I do that Cinefille. We just reach different conclusions. The title of this thread is, after all, L/L Anaylsis & Speculation. Not Agreeable Speculation.

I don't try and dictate how you should be speculating, or what the "correct" discussion should be for this board, or lecture other posters on the "proper" way to analysis. And I'm not bashing Lorelai - calling her names or what not. After sitting through the last year and a half of watching this ship get torpedoed, having the last scene of Partings forever burned in my brain, hearing all the ILY's and lovey-dovey slop between L/C, I better be given a good reason for my loyalty and committment to sticking it out. I wouldn't still be here if I didn't love L/L. Tough love baby.

I'm just offering my viewpoint and I respect yours. Please do the same for me.
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:25 AM
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But all of the descriptions are just rewritten versions of the CW description. If that writer phrased it along those lines, everyone else will too.
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:28 AM
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I don't see how Luke could react at all given the spoilers we have. He's surrounded by patty, babette, and Rory, and maybe some others. It's not like he's going to storm out, nor will he just run up to the stage and tell her loves her too. If anything, they'll probably spend the rest of the night/party, until one of them decides to leave, not talking, both of them still processing what just happened and what it means.

And since Luke's upset when he hears that Lorelai didn't mean it, he can't have reacted too poorly. It seems more likely that he believed what she was singing than not.
I get that, but to Lorelai, that would probably be unfavoreable.
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:29 AM
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"Gilmore Girls" creator Amy Sherman-Palladino is working on "Worst Day of My Life," a show inspired by fans who have written to her about their low points.
the day Partings Aired?
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:33 AM
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I think "their" means the fans. That is how I took it
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:34 AM
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I do that Cinefille. We just reach different conclusions. The title of this thread is, after all, L/L Anaylsis & Speculation. Not Agreeable Speculation.

I don't try and dictate how you should be speculating, or what the "correct" discussion should be for this board, or lecture other posters on the "proper" way to analysis. And I'm not bashing Lorelai - calling her names or what not. After sitting through the last year and a half of watching this ship get torpedoed, having the last scene of Partings forever burned in my brain, hearing all the ILY's and lovey-dovey slop between L/C, I better be given a good reason for my loyalty and committment to sticking it out. I wouldn't still be here if I didn't love L/L. Tough love baby.

I'm just offering my viewpoint and I respect yours. Please do the same for me.
ciaobella, my remarks were not directed at you, and I'm certainly not trying to dictate how people respond to or discuss the show. I would have thought the emoticons would have conveyed that I was teasing, but I guess I was wrong. People certainly have the right to carry on whatever conversations they want, and those who don't agree or want to participate have the option to not participate or not log in at all.

I was simply trying to inject a little lightheartedness into the proceedings, but apparently my effort was not appreciated. My bad, and I certainly won't dare to try it again.
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:37 AM
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I can guarantee that Lorelai is NOT falling all over herself drunk. In other words, she knows exactly what she's doing when she sings IWALY. She's tipsy, but she hasn't lost control of all her brain faculties.

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Old 04-22-2007, 11:40 AM
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Maybe that's where ASP got the idea lol? All that nasty mail from the fans.

I was just thinking how Christopher would have reacted if Lorelai was singing a drunken "I Will Always Love You" to him instead. No doubt he would take it as she really meant it, and be all over her in a heartbeat. But not Luke. He probably sees that it's the liquour singing, even though deep down he hopes that she really means it.Maybe he's hoping in the light of day, she'll repeat those sentiments but completely sober. But Chris would have taken advantage of her drunken state and take that as his chance to jump on her.

This is what Lorelai has been used to for the past year, and mistakenly thinks is the way a man is supposed to react to her "advances", no matter how drunken or desparate (the ultimatum) they are. So she may take Luke's restraint and "gentlemanly" manners as a rejection of her love.
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:40 AM
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I think "their" means the fans. That is how I took it
I was just being snarky because it is ASP after all.
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:42 AM
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Cinefille, just so you know, your attempt was appreciated by me!

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, the fact that we get more explanations from the writers about Lorelais POV and therefor you say sympathy (I definitely do not feel there is equal sympathy for L/L, I get the impression there is more for Luke, but could be the wrong impression) doesn't equate to me that Lorelai is never thrown under a psychological bus. The fact that we maybe get more insight to why the bus hit her and well what the brand is and all, doesn't mean that bus didn't still ran over her (multiple times).
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:46 AM
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(I definitely do not feel there is equal sympathy for L/L, I get the impression there is more for Luke, but could be the wrong impression)
I've gotten that impression all along as well.
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:48 AM
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Cinefille, just so you know, your attempt was appreciated by me!

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, the fact that we get more explanations from the writers about Lorelais POV and therefor you say sympathy (I definitely do not feel there is equal sympathy for L/L, I get the impression there is more for Luke, but could be the wrong impression) doesn't equate to me that Lorelai is never thrown under a psychological bus. The fact that we maybe get more insight to why the bus hit her and well what the brand is and all, doesn't mean that bus didn't still ran over her (multiple times).
actually i was the one talking about the psychological bus. I think that before this season there was a heck of a lot more sympathy for lorelai. But, partings and the chris marriage changed that for a lot of people. Those who were once fervant lorelai defenders could no longer bring themselves to defend the character.

Frankly, I find that I have more sympathy for lorelai in the second half of this season than I had for her in the second of season 6. Now, thats what I call ironic. As for agreeing people on this thread haven't not since season 5. For nearly a year there was that stupidity with the Zen Cruiser.
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:49 AM
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FYI, attempts to lighten the mood and snarky humour are always appreaciated by me. I could whip up a few limericks if I have to, but they might offend some of you lol.
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:50 AM
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FYI, attempts to lighten the mood and snarky humour are always appreaciated by me. I could whip up a few limericks if I have to, but they might offend some of you lol.
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:51 AM
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this might not go with the concersation but I could totally L/L getting married in the town square. I need them to get married before the show ends or i will die
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