Spoilers - Gilmore Girls ~ Luke/Lorelai Analysis & Speculation #377

Mots15 · 04-06-2007, 02:35 PM

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This thread is to discuss spoilers of the show, which includes analysis and speculation of what might happen on the show, or what people would like to see happen regarding Luke and Lorelai. The thread should not be used as episode discussion thread. That should be done on the Gilmore Girls board.
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Feel free to discuss everything about Luke & Lorelai. Have fun posting!

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Episode Descriptions & Spoilers: Season 7

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Episode 7.18: Hay Bale Maze
Air date: 17 April 2007

Written by: Rebecca Rand Kirshner
Directed by: Stephen Clancy

The CW: LORELAI AND LUKE CLEAR THE AIR ?? As Stars Hollow prepares for its annual Spring Fling festival, Rory (Alexis Bledel) brings Logan (Matt Czuchry) home and shows him around town. Lorelai (Lauren Graham) sees how serious their relationship has become and worries that Logan is too irresponsible for Rory. Taylor (Michael Winters) angers the town by spending the entire Spring Fling budget on a huge hay bale maze. At an unexpected encounter in the maze, Lorelai and Luke (Scott Patterson) apologize to one another and admit they both made mistakes that lead to the end of their engagement. Meanwhile, Rory has a job interview with the Providence Journal-Bulletin and struggles with decisions about her future. Melissa McCarthy, Yanic Truesdale, Liza Weil and Sean Gunn also star. (#2T7768). Guest stars: Liz Torres (Miss Patty), Rose Abdoo (Gypsy), Sally Struthers (Babette Dell), Ted Rooney (Morey Dell), Grant-Lee Phillips (Grant) , Vanessa Marano (April Nardini)

TV Guide: As Stars Hollow prepares for the annual Spring Fling Festival, Rory brings Logan home to see where she grew up, but there's tension in the air between him and Lorelai. Meanwhile, Rory waits to hear news after a job interview with the Providence Journal-Bulletin; April visits Luke and he adjusts to the changes that come with having a teenage daughter; and the town is up in arms when Taylor uses the entire festival budget to build a hay-bale maze.

Timeline of Sides

Teaser Is Building Of The Maze - courtesy of copperboom

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Episode 7.19: It's Just Like Riding a Bike
Air date: 24 April 2007

Written by: Jennie Snyder
Directed by: Lee Shallat Chemel

The CW: Lorelai stops into Luke's diner for breakfast for the first time since their break-up, but finds they are awkward and uncomfortable together. Later, Lorelai's Jeep breaks down and she asks Luke to help her shop for a new car. While they look at cars, Lorelai and Luke's irritation with one another finally explodes into a fight, which Lorelai secretly takes as a good sign. Meanwhile, Paris gets accepted to numerous law schools and medical schools, and decides she must break up with Doyle so their relationship won't influence her choice of a graduate school. Finally, Rory gets a surprising letter that will impact her future plans.

Lorelai Needs a New Car - courtesy of dreamslut

Lorelai's new car- courtesy of Mots15

Doll house takes the brunt of someone's anger - courtesy of Mots15

Awkward trip to the car dealership for LL - courtesy of Nicolalala

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Episode 7.20: Lorelai? Lorelai?
Air date: 1 May 2007

Written by:
Directed by: Bethany Rooney

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Episode 7.21: Unto The Breach
Air date: 8 May 2007

Written by: David Rosenthal & Jennie Snyder
Directed by: Lee Shallat Chemel

Luke is at graduation - courtesy of Saranoh

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Episode 7.22: Bon Voyage
Air date: 15 May 2007

Written by:
Directed by: Lee Shallat Chemel

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Other Spoilers:

Singing isn't cheesy - courtesy of massamin @ TWoP

Luke and Lorelai romantically involved by end of season - courtesy of lancer

Lorelai to sing Fernando - courtesy of gossipcom

Chris moves out - courtesy of elle26

The chuppah has returned home - courtesy of copperboom

Lorelai initiates the end of her marriage - courtesy of Ciaobella

LL start talking before Christmas ep. - courtesy of genki

No Cheating Lorelai - courtesy of caf and Ciaobella

Kristin's CW Launch interview w/ LG

MA's CW Launch original interview w/ LG - courtesy of Canopus

MA's CW Launch interview w/ LG (edited version) and SP

CW Launch Party - courtesy of Mots15

Season 7 Promo - courtesy of Mots15

Interview with SP - courtesy of Lor-baby

LG Encounter - courtesy of zoobymoo

Ask Ausiello:

Mar 28 2007: I Will Always Love You

Mar 21 2007: Rory's grad is not the finale.

Mar 14 2007: LL fight ends positively!

Mar 07 2007: Car Shopping, Fighting, and Singing - Oh My!

Feb 28 2007: Welcome back to the diner?

Feb 14 2007: Apologies All Around

Jan 23 2007: Married? Just kidding.

Jan 23 2007: Married, baby, 8th season

Jan 10 2007: Plenty of Nothin'

Dec 20 2006: Lorelai and Christopher Fall Out

Dec 12 2006: Nothing

Dec 6 2006: Luke in, Christopher out

Nov 15 2006: Troubles ahead for LC, Luke helps Emily

Nov 8 2006: Poignant & Green

Nov 1 2006: Blah, blah, blah

Oct 25 2006: div**c*?

Oct 18 2006:e***e

Oct 11 2006: Spoilers To Come Later

Oct 4 2006: Richard

Sept 27 2006: Whispergate

Sept 20 2006: Barfaroni

Sept 13 2006: Whatever **t * ******* is, is huge

Aug 30 2006: **t * *******

Aug 23 2006: *** * *******

Aug 16 2006: Lorelai is in reflective mode

Aug 9 2006: Long summer in SH

Aug 2 2006: Kirk exploits Luke's misfortune

July 12 2006: First 6 episodes very, very dramatic

Apr 25 2006: Reaction to interview

Ausiello Report/Vodcast:

Mar 15 2007: Christiane Amanpour Makes An Appearance

Feb 28 2007: Lorelai enters the diner

Jan 29 2007: LG gets producer credits

Dec 12 2006: ASP Interview about new show and current GG

Oct 24 2006: DR Interview about elopement

Sept 20 2006: Liar Liar, Pants On Fire

Sept 14 2006: Spoilerganza

Sept 4 2006: Ausiello has seen the premiere

Aug 31 2006: Lauren Graham on Studio 60

July 23 2006: Good news?

July 17 2006: Interview with Dave Rosenthal

July 17 2006: TCA Summer Press Tour

June 7 2006: Interview with Lauren Graham

Apr 24 2006: Interview with Amy & Dan

General Spoilers:
*if you have a general spoiler to share, please PM the thread starter so that they can update the list below*

Is This The End? - courtesy of a blog at Televisionary

More on S8 - courtesy of SassyPaws at TWoP

Paris & Doyle breakup - courtesy of ScottPAdmirer at TWoP

Doll house is back next to the new TV - courtesy of glo

Another season unlikely - courtesy of mozzarella at TWoP

MM Cast in Pilot - courtesy of caf123

S8 negotiations going well with girls - courtesy of SassyPaws

SP Finalizing Contract For S8, S8 Looks Likely - courtesy of SassyPaws

GG Fate For S8 Announced Soon - courtesy of SassyPaws

Gazebo covered in mini lights - courtesy of SarahLovesLogan

GG Returning for a S8 - courtesy of JSW & SarahLovesLogan

Dollhouse Destroyed - courtesy of JSW & SarahLovesLogan

Gravity Delayed - courtesy of movieweb

MC Cast in CW pilot - courtesy of wej5541

SP Cast in CBS pilot - courtesy of JubalEarly

Tour Reports:

April 4th & 6th Tour Info – courtesy of Katiegg108

April 4th Tour Info – courtesy of lulu1960 @TWoP

April 2nd Tour Info – courtesy of lulu1960 and angel312 @TWoP

March 7th Tour Info - courtesy of Tru_Slayer at TV.Com

March 19th Tour Info - courtesy of little_earthquake

March 16th Tour Info - courtesy of BigB

March 16th Tour Info More - courtesy of glo1196@mac.com

Video and Promos:

7.18 Promo - courtesy of Mots15

7.18 Promo on YouTube - courtesy of Capp

Liza Weil Video Interview Transcript

Ed Herrmann Video Interview Transcript

Episode 7.17 - Gilmore Girls Only - courtesy of blaab
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4

Season 7 Episodes
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Season 7 Promo Images
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All episode descriptions and promotional pictures are provided by The CW and Fraz, unless otherwise noted.

Cappuccino · 04-06-2007, 02:36 PM

Thanks for the thread.

Luke and Lorelai

7.19 - Lilmelodie, Peachypeep, Cappuccino, Wheredidtheanvilsgo?, Rosefurcoat , AkaranafeatMeeko, Tea-Bee, Vaso, Mirella, dirty twin, maglori, Sparkling Star, Spikette, Wilpen, withbatedbreath, Gemini8525, mary55, little_earthquake, voncey, leonana, genki, nst, Tara Ashley, ~JJ_lunatic~ (24)

7.20 - Lancer, Tazzed, Ggava, Bigb, Cappie, juststandingstill, Katiegg108, Gymtig, glo1196@mac.com, lorelaisgirl, CineFille, genuinelorelai, MissMarie01, stephrox, almondeyes, obiswee_pie, Javalava86, LLLovers, ele309, Mots15, elduccia, schmusibu, smileyGGfan (23)

7.21 - Fuzzycerts, LG - Life's Good, Mag13, CoffeeSlut, GeorgeIII, MickeyJr3000, Joannathe1, xmonalpx (8)

7.22 - wej5541, SarahLovesLogan (2)

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Originally Posted by vaso (View Post)

Some times i wonder why i read spoilers. It's so much better not knowing all this gossip about the actors, the scripts etc. It ruins the fun. The other day i was watching 4.21 and all i kept thinking was "this is not a look they share two people who hate each other"! I couldn't concentrate on the episode.

Maybe because they don't hate each other - how is that for a change.

lancer1993 · 04-06-2007, 02:41 PM

Thanks Mots for the thread.

So waiting on the damn vodcast now...

as I said, what if Lauren wanted more L&L in the final?

damselfly · 04-06-2007, 02:42 PM

Thanks for the thread Mots .

Wheredidtheanvilsgo? · 04-06-2007, 02:44 PM

Thanks again Mots

lilmelodie · 04-06-2007, 02:45 PM

Thanks for the new thread, Mots!

AkaranafeatMeeko · 04-06-2007, 02:47 PM

Thanks for the new thread mots

And Lauren would never send script back because she has a problem with the other actor. Let's pretend she hates Scott. Why would she hae let the CL marriage go to hell and show that Lorelai belongs with Luke? To send back the last script and say "No I hate him I don't shoot that?!"

Whenever I read something like that I get angry because that would mean that Lauren is self-centered b**ch who cares nothing about her fans , who bullies her colleagues and manipulates the writers. And she is not like that!

vaso · 04-06-2007, 02:47 PM

Thanks Mots

Mag13 · 04-06-2007, 02:47 PM

Thanks for the thread!
Bringing it over from the previous one....

Episode 7.19 summary (from CW, tour descriptions, spoilers, spies and foilers sources....)

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Episode 7.19: It's Just Like Riding a Bike
Air date: 24 April 2007

Written by: Jennie Snyder
Directed by: Lee Shallat Chemel

─ Lorelai resolves to return to her real, pre-EIF life - and part of that is going into the diner. She stops into Luke’s diner for breakfast for the first time since their break-up, with all eyes on her and comments from Kirk, but finds they are awkward and uncomfortable together.

- Later, Lorelai’s Jeep breaks down and she asks Luke to help her shop for a new car. And he agrees to take her.

- Before, Lorelai is riding a bike. LG had a location shoot at Griffith Park. It seems like she was filming there alone.

- Lorelai is happy Luke agrees to take her car shopping, but the trip to the dealership is awkward.

- While they look at cars, Lorelai and Luke's irritation with one another finally explodes into a fight, which Lorelai secretly takes as a good sign. Lorelai thinks it's a good thing. The one in 7.18 is a rather calm conversation. 7.19 is when they let out their annoyances (they have an argument).

- This fight between Luke and Lorelai doesn’t result in them officially getting back together, but the end result is definitely positive.

- New car is a Blue Chrysler Aspen with DFI sign.

- Jackson stays at Lorelai's house for at least one night. (I don't know the whole story behind this). The scene they were shooting took place in Lorelai's living room and involved Sookie, Jackson and Paul Anka. Jackson telling Sookie that he broke the dollhouse. The doll house really is destroyed. Jackson tells Sookie he was just picking it up to see what the support system was like so he could make one for Martha. In doing so he drops it because it's heavier then he thought. They argue back and forth some. Jackson thinks the real reason Sookie is mad is because he lied to her and got her pregnant. Sookie states that she is happy about the baby but Jackson points out that it's not the same as forgiving him. Sookie eventually admits that she is just overwhelmed and worried about having a third child. They end the scene on a happy note.

- They were filming inside Sookies also.

- And the chuppah was moved over to the side of the yard where it is supposed to be.

- Rory and Paris make plans for life after Yale. Meanwhile, Paris gets accepted to numerous law schools and medical schools, and decides she must break up with Doyle so their relationship won't influence her choice of a graduate school. Paris breaks up with Doyle and later misses him.

- Finally, Rory gets a surprising letter that will impact her future plans.

- Who for sure will appear in the episode: Lorelai, Rory, Luke, Sookie, Michel, Paris, Jackson, Kirk, Miss Patty, Babette, Paul Anka, Doyle (?) - He is at least talked about.

What's missing?

~JJ_lunatic~ · 04-06-2007, 02:49 PM

thanks again, Mots!

and night everybody

.... I`m off

Mots15 · 04-06-2007, 02:51 PM

Maybe LG and ASP are still in contact and LG was told the 4 words ASP wanted to use as the last of the series. LG read the script, told DR how he could fit them in, and they re-wrote the finale to fit those words in.

I don't see why everything associated with LG has to have some negative context. It's annoying when spoilers get wrapped around gossip.

notoutforawalk · 04-06-2007, 02:52 PM

I don't recall particularly liking Jenny Snyder's other scripts. That makes me nervous.

currienc · 04-06-2007, 02:56 PM

My theory on the reworked finale (not that you asked!) is that possibly the writers were trying to come up with that "Everwood"-type ending that was rumored earlier and there were just too many loose ends dangling to make it work well. This show's been going on a lot longer than Everwood did, so that sort of thing might simply just not work. To me, it would make more sense - if Lauren actually did ask for rewrites - that she did it to make the finale more coherent, not to necessarily eliminate plot lines or just to throw her weight around. I have to believe she wouldn't do something as extreme as demanding the writers go back to the drawing board if she didn't honestly think that the show would be better for it. I, of course, could be wrong - it's been known to happen.

Tara Ashley · 04-06-2007, 03:02 PM

Thnks Mots!

Saranoh · 04-06-2007, 03:03 PM

FWIW, I was told that LG only asked for minor changes that had nothing to do with L/L. And that she never refused to film anything. Take this with a grain of salt of course.