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Old 02-19-2007, 06:59 AM
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I think the townies just want to see these two crazy kids happy and they know they belong together - Babette coming into Luke's to tell him about Richard and then patting his hand before she left and my guess is that no one has wanted to approach Luke about it in anyway whatsoever - I don't think they are laying the blame on either of them.

From the sounds of the 7.18 "talk" that we heard about between L/L, it sounds as though both will be making concessions about not having dealt with everything well - and that will get them along their path to one another again - at least that is how it seems to me. If they can portray Lorelai's anger at Chris about not being there for her when her father was in the hospital in such a short burst of anger before she started sobbing about him being the man she wants, DR can come up with something just as simplistic and superficial.
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:00 AM
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Do we actually know what the town think/saw? As in have we seen anything from Miss. Patty/Babette/other townies to suggest what they know about the break up (of LL)? I really don't remember. I blocked out most of the beginning of this season. I mean they don't know what happened with LC, just that they broke up. Perhaps that's all they know about LL as well. No specifics, just that they broke up. And Luke does need to get his act together (which I think he did in his alone time), but so does Lorelai. There was a lot of nonsense between the two of them that needed fixing. Luke seems to be on the right path, and from what I saw of Lorelai last week, I think she is too. She was a woman in denial, but I think she's finally seeing the light. By the time this is over, she won't just be blaming Luke for what happened in Partings. The blame will lie equally with both. As it should.
And apparently that's what the pivotal scene in 7.18 will be about.

It's not the blame game again, anyhow. It's the all of us viewers really want to see BOTH Luke and Lorelai realizing their respective part of the blame in the awful breakup they had.
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:11 AM
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I just hope whoever wrote the last ep writes 7.18 'cause the rest of this season's writing has been suck-o and wouldn't do justice to what could be an amazing scene.
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:24 AM
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I just hope whoever wrote the last ep writes 7.18 'cause the rest of this season's writing has been suck-o and wouldn't do justice to what could be an amazing scene.
I sorta agree Jennie Snyder did well in the last ep. I really didn't enjoy much of 708 which she also wrote. I can't even remember what happened in it. I have enjoyed pretty much all of RRK's eps, apart from snooze fest GB. And she seems to be a L/L fan.
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:27 AM
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For months the townies saw Luke and April in the diner but no Lorelai. They saw Anna came and go and the two of them smiling and talking. Nothing romantic certainly but it sure wasn't Luke and Lorelai a united front dealing with his 'new family'. They saw Lorelai upset and it seems a lot less of L&L together period. I can see they could think Luke once again couldn't commit. I think they finally saw Lorelai ready and Luke backing off.
While they saw Luke back off, they only got a one-sided view. How can they know that Lorelai never said anything about it to him.

Much worse, do they know what a selfish cad Christopher is? They don't know he slept with her mere hours after her engagement ended. Lorelai didn't tell them about his appalling neglect of Rory over the years. We didn't see the town react every time he dropped by to screw up Lorelai's life again; likely they didn't know those details. During the pink and blue ribbons, they still didn't know Christopher's role, what a self-centered a$$ he is, selfish enough that wanted to destroy her relationship with Luke.

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Somehow, with Lorelai's "marvelous possibility" and her now being the kind of woman who "wants to want" a jerk like Christopher, I don't think those scenes will be such fun any more.
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:45 AM
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I think the townies just want to see these two crazy kids happy and they know they belong together - Babette coming into Luke's to tell him about Richard and then patting his hand before she left and my guess is that no one has wanted to approach Luke about it in anyway whatsoever - I don't think they are laying the blame on either of them.
ITA, clmorrow. Maybe when Ms. Patty says he needs to get his act together, she's not placing blame on him, she's simply referring to the fact he should step up to the plate. IMO, they don't know the specifics of the break-up. And because of that, they, for once, have not taken it upon themselves to create a situation to gossip about. They realize to an extent how Luke pushed Lorelai away because Lorelai confided somewhat about that in Babette, not to mention her little speech at Lane's wedding. But they don't know specifics, so they stayed out of it, until now. None of them liked Chris. Now that they know he is gone, I (at least really hope) that they will start pushing LL back together (not in a rushed way though). Of course, that can't really happen until LL talk in 7.18, and maybe that's all they try to do is get them to talk, but they all know that LL belong together (just like we know it) and I think that they will play a part in getting LL to talk. But they aren't blaming anyone. At this point, it's just about making sure LL clear the air and realize what's right in front of them and just kiss already!!

I don't mean to make it sound flippant, but I think you know what I mean

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Old 02-19-2007, 07:51 AM
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Although I'm glad that we have Patty on our side, I hope that they aren't going for a put all the blame on Luke SL. That would make me really mad. I'm tired of the blame game really. Especially making it seem like it's all Luke's fault which Lorelai has been doing. I really want to see her realize how much she messed up.
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:06 AM
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I hope Lorelai begins to a bit of self-examination too. Last week seemed to be about it all finally actually coming out and talking about it - in increments with Chris, then Sookie and her finally dealing with her "jumping" and that it's not "right" with Chris. Before that, anytime Luke was brought up, she brushed it off or, in early episodes, was dissing him out of her anger and hurt.

It seemed that last week that once the door was shoved open a little bit to talk about her feelings she couldn't shut it again and it just kept opening and then she could no longer avoid it all. That's my take on it anyway.
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:24 AM
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While they saw Luke back off, they only got a one-sided view. How can they know that Lorelai never said anything about it to him.

Much worse, do they know what a selfish cad Christopher is? They don't know he slept with her mere hours after her engagement ended. Lorelai didn't tell them about his appalling neglect of Rory over the years. We didn't see the town react every time he dropped by to screw up Lorelai's life again; likely they didn't know those details. During the pink and blue ribbons, they still didn't know Christopher's role, what a self-centered a$$ he is, selfish enough that wanted to destroy her relationship with Luke.

Somehow, with Lorelai's "marvelous possibility" and her now being the kind of woman who "wants to want" a jerk like Christopher, I don't think those scenes will be such fun any more.
A selfish cad in your opinion......and Lorelai is grown woman and she has at least equal if not more responsibility for sleeping with Chris that night, she was the one who had just ended a relationship, she knew how hurtful that would be to Luke and how it could mean no turning back...Lorelai doesnt seem to view Chris' absence as 'appalling neglect' or she wouldnt have stayed his friend or married him or considered him this 'marvelous possibility'....I know this is a Luke/Lorelai thread but still I dont think Chris deserves that..........
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I hope Lorelai begins to a bit of self-examination too. Last week seemed to be about it all finally actually coming out and talking about it - in increments with Chris, then Sookie and her finally dealing with her "jumping" and that it's not "right" with Chris. Before that, anytime Luke was brought up, she brushed it off or, in early episodes, was dissing him out of her anger and hurt.

It seemed that last week that once the door was shoved open a little bit to talk about her feelings she couldn't shut it again and it just kept opening and then she could no longer avoid it all. That's my take on it anyway.
Lets hope that door stays open and she tells everyone who needs to hear it what she felt and still is feeling. I don't want her to shut down again especially towards Luke. Those two really need to talk.

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A selfish cad in your opinion......and Lorelai is grown woman and she has at least equal if not more responsibility for sleeping with Chris that night, she was the one who had just ended a relationship, she knew how hurtful that would be to Luke and how it could mean no turning back...Lorelai doesnt seem to view Chris' absence as 'appalling neglect' or she wouldnt have stayed his friend or married him or considered him this 'marvelous possibility'....I know this is a Luke/Lorelai thread but still I dont think Chris deserves that..........
Excuse me but who was at least fully aware of the situation and his feelings ? It was definitely not Lorelai and he even admitted he pushed her and wanted her no matter what. He was the one who should have stayed back and wait. Give her time till she figured herself and her feelings out. But NO Mister I smell a chance I jump right at it couldn't wait and dragged everyone around him into that mess. Lorelai is to blame as well but Chris used her situation to his advantage and therefore someone should have kicked him where the sun don't shine.
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:31 AM
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Lets hope that door stays open and she tells everyone who needs to hear it what she felt and still is feeling. I don't want her to shut down again especially towards Luke. Those two really need to talk.
Definitely, but I am not sure she is ready yet...I think if there is a Season 8 Luke going away for a while might be a good thing..then they can both reassess there lives...I think the last think Lorelai needs to do is rush into something again.....
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Lets hope that door stays open and she tells everyone who needs to hear it what she felt and still is feeling. I don't want her to shut down again especially towards Luke. Those two really need to talk.
Oh, I whole heartedly agree! I'm glad that DR doesn't seem to be afraid to actually have important conversations. She had one with Chris and now she's going to have one with Luke. I'm really looking forward to seeing the rest of this season.
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:39 AM
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Lets hope that door stays open and she tells everyone who needs to hear it what she felt and still is feeling. I don't want her to shut down again especially towards Luke. Those two really need to talk.

Excuse me but who was at least fully aware of the situation and his feelings ? It was definitely not Lorelai and he even admitted he pushed her and wanted her no matter what. He was the one who should have stayed back and wait. Give her time till she figured herself and her feelings out. But NO Mister I smell a chance I jump right at it couldn't wait and dragged everyone around him into that mess. Lorelai is to blame as well but Chris used her situation to his advantage and therefore someone should have kicked him where the sun don't shine.
ITA with your entire post capp

I hope that in every episode from now on there will be at least one LL scene. DR owe us!
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i think after 7.18, things between L/L will pick up speed, considering there's a couple of episodes left in the season and they aren't sure if they're coming back for one more year.
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A selfish cad in your opinion......and Lorelai is grown woman and she has at least equal if not more responsibility for sleeping with Chris that night, she was the one who had just ended a relationship, she knew how hurtful that would be to Luke and how it could mean no turning back...Lorelai doesnt seem to view Chris' absence as 'appalling neglect' or she wouldnt have stayed his friend or married him or considered him this 'marvelous possibility'....I know this is a Luke/Lorelai thread but still I dont think Chris deserves that..........
Actually I think caf was too kind to Christopher. DS has two more appearances scheduled and one is Rory's graduation. I hope the other one features a well deserved ass -kicking by Lorelai AND Rory.

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