Spoilers - Gilmore Girls ~ Luke/Lorelai Analysis & Speculation #335

withbatedbreath · 02-10-2007, 07:19 AM

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Luke/Lorelai Analysis & Speculation

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Episode Descriptions & Spoilers: Season 7

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Episode 7.14: Farewell, My Pet
Air date: 13 Feb 2007

Written by: Jennie Snyder
Directed by: Jamie Babbit

CW: LORELAI AND CHRISTOPHER CONFRONT THEIR PROBLEMS -- Two days after his by-pass surgery, Richard is on the road to recovery, and Rory returns to Yale, where she finds that Richard's economics class is now being taught by an attractive young professor, Tucker Culbertson, who flusters Rory with his charm. While Lorelai tries to distract herself from the issues in her marriage, she and Sookie focus on planning a funeral for one of Michel's beloved dogs. Finally, Christopher returns ready to talk, and he and Lorelai discuss the main problem that has haunted their marriage – Lorelai's feelings for Luke.

TV Guide: While Richard recuperates from surgery, a new professor (Cameron Bender) takes his place and steals Rory's heart with his charming ways. Meanwhile, Lorelai finds ways to avoid facing her problems with Christopher, including planning a funeral for one of Michel's departed dogs. But Christopher returns home and they discuss Lorelai's feelings for Luke.

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Episode 7.15: I'm A Kayak, Hear Me Roar
Air date: 20 Feb 2007

Written by: Rebecca Rand Kirshner
Directed by:

CW: THE ROAD TO RECOVERY -- At a Friday night dinner, Lorelai works up the courage to tell her parents about the break-up of her marriage, but is derailed by their argument over the healthy meals and no-alcohol policy Emily has instituted to help Richard recover from his heart attack. Lorelai enlists Sookie to bring Richard healthy but delicious meals, then helps Emily organize Richard's business affairs. Over a shared bottle of scotch, Lorelai finally tells her mother about the breakup of her marriage. Rory attends an awkward birthday dinner for Logan with Mitchum Huntzberger, who asks her to help him steer Logan in the right direction. Later, Logan receives disturbing news about the online company he purchased. Also, Luke shares his home with Liz , T.J. and their baby daughter while their house is being fumigated.

TV Guide: Lorelai and Rory attend Friday-night dinner, where Lorelai is reluctant to tell her mom about her and Christopher's marital problems. But Emily has enough on her plate when the recuperating Richard complains about his dietary restrictions and Emily's strict no-alcohol rule. Meanwhile, Rory plans a birthday celebration for Logan, whose dad calls to invite him and Rory to dinner instead; and Liz and T.J. stay with Luke while their home is fumigated because of a moth infestation.

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Episode 7.16: Will You Be My Lorelai Gilmore
Air date: 27 Feb 2007

Written by: Gayle Abrams & Gina Fattore
Directed by: David Paymer

A BABY SHOWER, A JOB INTERVIEW AND A BOAT TRIP ?? While she is in the midst of planning Lane's (Keiko Agena) baby shower, Rory (Alexis Bledel) gets a long-awaited call from The New York Times offering her an informational interview. Lorelai (Lauren Graham) takes over the shower-planning duties, and finds herself brokering peace between Lane and Mrs. Kim (Emily Kuroda) over how Lane plans to raise her twins. Logan (Matt Czuchry) finally admits his business disaster to Rory, who offers him her full support, but when Logan announces that he is flying to Las Vegas to blow off steam with his old college pals Colin and Finn, Rory is disappointed and worried. When Luke (Scott Patterson) discovers that Liz (Kathleen Wilhoite) and T.J. (Michael DeLuise) are trying to sell his boat, he decides to make some changes in his life and take April (Vanessa Marano) on a long boat trip over the summer. Finally, Lane is put on bed-rest and must be wheeled through Stars Hollow in her bed to attend the shower at Miss Patty's (Liz Torres). Melissa McCarthy and Sean Gunn also star. David Paymer directed the episode written by Gayle Abrams & Gina Fattore

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Episode 7.17: Gilmore Girls Only
Air date: 6 Mar 2007

Written by:
Directed by:

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Other Spoilers:

Chris moves out - courtesy of elle26

The chuppah has returned home - courtesy of copperboom

Lorelai initiates the end of her marriage - courtesy of Ciaobella

LL start talking before Christmas ep. - courtesy of genki

No Cheating Lorelai - courtesy of caf and Ciaobella

Kristin's CW Launch interview w/ LG

MA's CW Launch original interview w/ LG - courtesy of Canopus

MA's CW Launch interview w/ LG (edited version) and SP

CW Launch Party - courtesy of Mots15

Season 7 Promo - courtesy of Mots15

Interview with SP - courtesy of Lor-baby

LG Encounter - courtesy of zoobymoo

Ask Ausiello:

Jan 23 2007: Married? Just kidding.

Jan 23 2007: Married, baby, 8th season

Jan 10 2007: Plenty of Nothin'

Dec 20 2006: Lorelai and Christopher Fall Out

Dec 12 2006: Nothing

Dec 6 2006: Luke in, Christopher out

Nov 15 2006: Troubles ahead for LC, Luke helps Emily

Nov 8 2006: Poignant & Green

Nov 1 2006: Blah, blah, blah

Oct 25 2006: div**c*?

Oct 18 2006:e***e

Oct 11 2006: Spoilers To Come Later

Oct 4 2006: Richard

Sept 27 2006: Whispergate

Sept 20 2006: Barfaroni

Sept 13 2006: Whatever **t * ******* is, is huge

Aug 30 2006: **t * *******

Aug 23 2006: *** * *******

Aug 16 2006: Lorelai is in reflective mode

Aug 9 2006: Long summer in SH

Aug 2 2006: Kirk exploits Luke's misfortune

July 12 2006: First 6 episodes very, very dramatic

Apr 25 2006: Reaction to interview

Ausiello Report:

Jan 29 2007: LG gets producer credits

Dec 12 2006: ASP Interview about new show and current GG

Oct 24 2006: DR Interview about elopement

Sept 20 2006: Liar Liar, Pants On Fire

Sept 14 2006: Spoilerganza

Sept 4 2006: Ausiello has seen the premiere

Aug 31 2006: Lauren Graham on Studio 60

July 23 2006: Good news?

July 17 2006: Interview with Dave Rosenthal

July 17 2006: TCA Summer Press Tour

June 7 2006: Interview with Lauren Graham

Apr 24 2006: Interview with Amy & Dan

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All episode descriptions and promotional pictures are provided by The CW and Fraz, unless otherwise noted.

withbatedbreath · 02-10-2007, 07:20 AM

Promo Images: Season 7

All promotional pictures courtesy of: Luminary, Fraz, Sarcastic-Ladies.net, CW-Insider
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Cappuccino · 02-10-2007, 07:30 AM

Thanks for the new thead.

**Mirella** · 02-10-2007, 07:31 AM

Thanks for the thread.

gjoni · 02-10-2007, 07:33 AM

Thanks for the thread, withbatedbreath.

Bringing this over from the previous thread:

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Originally Posted by elle26 (View Post)

Ha, the maze is like L/L's relationship...go down one path only to hit a roadblock. Followed by a series of roadblocks. L/L really need to go through that maze, to find each other and to find their way out...together. Yep.

Exactly, this maze symbolizes their twisted, misleading path so far, or at least Lorelai's complicated, winding, crazy, so called journey.

Only problem I have, 7.18, is cutting it too close to the end for LL. Too darn long.

withbatedbreath · 02-10-2007, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gjoni

Only problem I have, 7.18, is cutting it too close to the end for LL. Too darn long.

Which is exactly why I can't seem to get excited about any of these new spoilers.

**Katiegg108** · 02-10-2007, 07:37 AM

Thanks for the thread!

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That it really turns out like in the promo. They cry over each other and Chris is all understanding and comforting and mature and nice and all

Why the frak is that a bad thing? She doesn't rip Chris apart like you want? too bad. They're ending, that's clear from the upcoming spoilers. And I'd rather have Lorelai end this marriage on some slightly good terms with Chris, then have anything like WBB when Chris will just come back again and screw up any LL progress later.

I think he's all understanding and mature because he finally is realizing and understanding what Lorelai's saying and accepting it. And he's not mad because he just knows it's the truth and what's been right in front of him for months if HE had just opened his eyes a bit more.

And it would be awful for Lorelai to scream and yell at Chris, then tell him it's over. She loves Chris, whether you like it or not, and she knows that just telling him it's over will crush him, so of course she'd want to take this as nicely as possible. Plus, she's on the edge of a breakdown herself, I don't think she'd really want to be screaming at him at the risk of losing it and totally breaking dowm.

lilmelodie · 02-10-2007, 07:44 AM

Thanks for the thread!

gjoni · 02-10-2007, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by katiegg108

Plus, she's on the edge of a breakdown herself, I don't think she'd really want to be screaming at him at the risk of losing it and totally breaking down.

We shouldn't want that either, knowing where she ended up last time that happened.

notoutforawalk · 02-10-2007, 07:53 AM

You know, Katie, I really do see where you are coming from, but maybe it is because people have trouble picturing him being all mature or whatever? I certainly do. Or maybe because this is much more civil than any other break up the girl has ever had? There are a lot of reasons that someone may not like it, especially if they still see Chris as an immature, self-centered, jackass of a douche bag. And I think there are a number of people on this thread who see him as at least one of the above.

And while she may in fact be crying over the loss of her dreams or whatever, the promo plays it more as the loss of Chris. Considering there are a number of people here who can't understand why she would be civil to the guy in the first place, watching her boohoo all over him, when the break up with Luke scored us one tear? Not generally going to thrill everyone. So, it doesn't matter that if it isn't just Chris, because that is what the promo makes it feel like.

I even get that she is supposed to have been in denial, or moving on, or whatever, but she is about the best I have ever seen at moving on. Aside from the not really going into town until she and Chris were married, there was nothing, not one little glimmer of remorse that her "life hadn't worked out". And even going back into town after getting hitched can easily be read as, "I proved I could get a man. Now I won't look like a loser to these people." Which...wrong, but whatever.

clmorrow · 02-10-2007, 07:57 AM

The fact that some fans would like to see a different type of ending for C/L doesn't mean that they should not be able to express it here without being criticized for their opinion. Saying "She doesn't rip Chris apart like you want? too bad" is kinda harsh - in my humble opinion....

I'm still wondering how Luke finds out about C/L end - I don't know why Babette/Patty would need to be talking about it in code - to me, this seems like something one or other would be flying to Luke's to tell him about.

Babette seemed to feel a need to tell Lorelai about Richard - I wonder why they would hesitate to drop their juicy bit of gossip to Luke. Maybe it is just to drag out how long it will be until Luke finds out - I hope that that moment will be done well and we will get treated to another good Luke expression.

2ggObsessed · 02-10-2007, 08:19 AM

Thanks for the thread withbatedbreath.

I totally agree with you Katie. I also don’t think that this is the time for her to get angry with him over his neglect of Rory. It’s all in the past now. She knows what he has done, has forgiven him and told him that she has forgiven him. He also knows what he has done, has expressed regret over it and the letter reinforced to him again his lack of responsibility for Rory. Rory is grown up now and can fight her own battles, if she wants to, with her father. It’s now up to Christopher and Rory to fix their relationship and not Lorelai’s responsibility to hold him accountable for his delinquency of the past or future.

Lorelai might bring up the fact that he was not there for her and Rory when they needed him but the real issue at hand right now is their relationship. It doesn’t work, they are both sadly aware that it is not working and know they must do something about it. They are united (by the holding of hands) in thought, sadness and regret that the dream they fantasized about for many years did not materialize the way they wanted it to and they finally have to accept it for what it is and lay the dream to rest forever. They both have to move on from each other and find the true dream.

notoutforawalk · 02-10-2007, 08:26 AM

Heh. I didn't even notice them holding hands. You can tell that this storyline has me captivated. Honestly, he comes on screen and I zone out. I had no idea I was doing that in the promos too. At this point, I don't care if they cry until they die of dehydration, as long as he is off my screen for the rest of the season. (Excepting of course the graduation. It will make a nice change that he actually shows up for something.)

Cappuccino · 02-10-2007, 08:30 AM

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The fact that some fans would like to see a different type of ending for C/L doesn't mean that they should not be able to express it here without being criticized for their opinion. Saying "She doesn't rip Chris apart like you want? too bad" is kinda harsh - in my humble opinion....

I can take it no worries there

I just can't believe the guy gets out of this mess AGAIN without "punishment" He looses Lorelai - wow that really makes up for all the crap he pulled over all those years. I don't even talk about giving him a piece of her mind for being a dick as a father. What he did to her over all those years. He was never there, supported her, nothing. No she rewarded him each time he came back and now she is even crying over losing him

She knows she doesn't love him enough or wants to be with him and still she bawls and lets him go just like that. That's really great. He knew he was No.2, left her alone AGAIN last week and she is not calling him on that

Sorry that I want her to finally tell him what a big fat jerk he is.

**Mirella** · 02-10-2007, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by notoutforawalk (View Post)

Heh. I didn't even notice them holding hands. You can tell that this storyline has me captivated. Honestly, he comes on screen and I zone out. I had no idea I was doing that in the promos too. At this point, I don't care if they cry until they die of dehydration, as long as he is off my screen for the rest of the season. (Excepting of course the graduation. It will make a nice change that he actually shows up for something.)

That's exactly how I feel.