Spoilers - Gilmore Girls ~ Luke/Lorelai Analysis & Speculation #321 - Page 6

**Katiegg108** · 01-24-2007, 03:00 PM

Anna saying that Luke bailed on Lorelai?

But I love how Luke says "I did not bail on Lorelai."

elle26 · 01-24-2007, 03:01 PM

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Sure she is to blame as well but he was in a better state - emotionally and he could at least think clearly. Ok that just sounded wrong - Chris and thinking in one sentence just doesn't fit - never mind. He knew in what condition Lorelai was in and still went all out and did everything to get her and now he puts all the blame on her

Maybe he didn't know what second choice meant. Why didn't he borrow Rory dictionary he gave her in season 2

Oy

Hey, I said it was a minuscule amount, lol. I agree that Chris was aware of Lorelai's emotional state, but took advantage of that anyways. Look, neither one of them should have gone into this marriage in the first place, but they did and now they have to deal with the consequences of their actions. Should be interesting to watch.

Ha that first DC of Lorelai and Chris in the CS...kinda funny. Liked the conditioner/flat screen banter. I need my head examined.

peachypeep · 01-24-2007, 03:02 PM

I've been thinking a lot about Luke being "like a father" to Rory and I do think ASP had been setting this up as soon as she decided that LL were the endgame.

Think about it: Luke's protectiveness with Rory as regards Dean and Jess was way before anything "happened" between LL. The way he did all the "man" chores around their house. And he alluded to his affection for Rory on more than one occasion. Luke was always there. And as anybody who reads my posts knows, the "where the hell were you scene" in WBB is, in my mind, one of the most important of the whole series: does being the sperm donor make you a father?

Answer: NO WAY.

And the stark contrast of Luke fighting for his rights with April versus Chris who never had to fight for Rory and ignored her anyway just reinforces the idea is that family are the people who stick by you. Does anyone believe really Chris would be fighting for Gigi if Sherry had left with her?

**Katiegg108** · 01-24-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by elle26 (View Post)

Ha that first DC of Lorelai and Chris in the CS...kinda funny. Liked the conditioner/flat screen banter. I need my head examined.

So did I...

I think maybe it's because we know what's going to happen between CL the next time they see eachother. *evil laugh*

juststandingstill · 01-24-2007, 03:21 PM

Ok, just watched the DC clips... to be honest, I've become fairly tolerant of the C/L scenes... I really didn't think it was that bad, but then again the whole time I was laughing and I was saying to myself "Oh, just wait until you come home." I think it's so sweet that when Anna was accusing Luke of being a hermit, not being able to keep a long-term relationship, saying he bailed on Lorelai and got divorced in a heartbeat, the first thing he defends (with much passion, I would say) was that he did not bail on Lorelai. Yay Luke!!

I love him... his character this year has just been amazing!! heeee...

So the new longer promo was really sad. I mean, I absolutely LOVE the reading of the letter, but the scene with Lorelai (as pathetic as it is to see her like that) was just heart-wrenching, even if it was Christopher she was talking to. I mean, this whole time she's been fooling herself into thinking that everything was going right and she could make it work and all that stuff, but once people around her started to realize that she was pretty much making herself do it all, everything came crashing down. It's alot harder to fool yourself when you can no longer fool the people around you. I agree, what has she become?? A whiny, ninny who desperately needs to be cared for, no matter who it is and how it affects her. She is no longer the strong, independent woman she was in the earlier seasons. I think that realization (well, hopefully) will be part of her epiphany in 7.13. Maybe, possibly, Emily mentions something to her. We know she is trying to make this work, hence the lovely scene with good ol' flatscreen, but she doesn't see who she has become by doing so.

I don't recall any ILYs in last nights epi... maybe I just blocked them out or something? I'm also pretty sure there weren't any ILYs in MF, either. Unless I'm mistaken... but w/e, not too much longer before we won't have to hear them any longer... at least, not towards dopey

I was thinking earlier that as weird as it is to have LL not together, it's been so long, it almost seems weirder to see them back together! Maybe that's just me... but as much as I want LL happy and together and everything, it seems like a foreign idea that it will actually happen, for real this time.

lilmelodie · 01-24-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Katiegg108 (View Post)

Anna saying that Luke bailed on Lorelai?

But I love how Luke says "I did not bail on Lorelai."

I so want to drop kick Anna after watching that scene. Grrr.

And yeah, the Luke love is very strong. lol.

clmorrow · 01-24-2007, 03:27 PM

Gad, I hate when writers distort something like this visitation case for drama. Luke has every right to see his daughter. He's not living on the street, he's a responsible businessperson, etc. And, Anna has allowed April to stay with him for as long as two weeks and suddenly she's making him out to be unfit?

A judge in real life would not look kindly on a woman who kept a daughter away from her father - and Luke wouldn't have to fight hard to get his visitation rights. I understand they need drama, but they should have passed on this stupid soap opera plot and I'm sorry, but where has all the humor of this show gone?

Even in serious situations - like when Richard's mom died - there were some sweet, but funny moments. I haven't laughed at anything since early last year and even that was minimal.

And do we know anything about Anna's relationship history? Is she involved with someone now? Was she previously married? What's her story. Grrrr....

**Katiegg108** · 01-24-2007, 03:29 PM

I just can't wait for this to turn around in Anna's face. When she hears that letter, I think I might be jumping for joy, not because of the LL stuff, but just because of how wrong it'll prove her.

lancer1993 · 01-24-2007, 03:44 PM

Okay I've done the TS for the DC clips, they are on the MT

Any error let me know

What I like about the flat screen on is it's the LAST kiss these two will share

and with Luke he was so controlled and jumped to defend Lorelai, I guess she doesn't know what went down with them.

withbatedbreath · 01-24-2007, 03:45 PM

oy, so after spending all day imagining the idea that we're actually gonna get an LL wedding, and maybe even a pregnancy announcement, I hafta watch this new promo? I really can't justify desperate!Lorelai with the idea that she's gonna be the one to call it quits with Chris in the end.

lancer1993 · 01-24-2007, 03:56 PM

juststandingstill NO ILY from Chris or Lorelai last night

I think we have become desensitised with the whole C&L thing.

Okay I'm out for a few hours, is it sick I've bee here since 4 and it's now knocking on 9am

teamluke. · 01-24-2007, 03:59 PM

2 DCs and I feel UNsatisfied. :S

I wonder how Anna's gonna explain how she went from leaving her daughter under Luke's care, to feeling he's unfit as a parent. Can she chalk it up to anger? But I suppose she'll explain it just as easily as she explained why she never told Luke about THEIR child. Wow, that gets me mad all over again. What the heck could have possibly happened to Anna for her to operate in this way?

I can't wait for the look on Anna's face when that wonderful character witness is read out. I'm actually surprised that they don't have to MEET the person who wrote the character witness. I know it'd be stupid, to lie, or what have you, but wouldn't it have been more special to see her up on the stand? I guess either way, you can lie, right? ....I hope Anna's character witness letter is read outloud, and it falls FLAT. You know? It's alright, but it's not wonderful, it just says the basics. I hope it includes something about Anna's judgement of Luke and that's why she kept April outta his life..

Tara Ashley · 01-24-2007, 04:22 PM

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I just can't wait for this to turn around in Anna's face. When she hears that letter, I think I might be jumping for joy, not because of the LL stuff, but just because of how wrong it'll prove her.

I'm so with you Katie. I have grown to REALLY despise this woman. I think it's sadly ironic how she's using Luke's split up with Lorelai against him as a father, when it was sort of his dedication to becoming April's father that split them up in the first place.

"I didn't bail on Lorelai". Soak it up guys, soak it up. We're FINALLY getting somewhere...and I'm loving every second of it!

vaso · 01-24-2007, 04:23 PM

What a day my cousin decided to visit *sigh*

Anyway i saw both DC's and the extended promo. You know what those ILY's are a joke. No one is going to believe her from now on. I hope DR doesn't use it with l/l. ILY's were supposed to mean something. They made such a big deal out of it but DR seems to forget that.

Anyway I hope MA didn't gave out foilers and we get an ending with l/l married with a kid! Yep i'm still optimistic. Those promos and DC won't get to me. It's the end!!!

ETA Anna is a b..... But that's not new

MickeyJr3000 · 01-24-2007, 04:23 PM

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Well, well, well ,well ,well little dopey knew he was just her second choice and went along with that and even better initiated it even. What an ass. Honestly. He knew it and still asked her to marry him? Dragged his little kid into that mess ? Got Rory's hopes up again in a way ? Got Lorelai into that position she is in now. Yes she went along with that but what a jerk to yeah trick her into that.

I'm so angry at that son of a witch with a b. The guy is really unbelievable. I mean he always wanted her and did everything he could to get her but that now really tops it all. What a calculating dip*****. Knowing all of that and just scenting his chance to weasel his way in. That Lorelai couldn't think straight or knew what she was really feeling - we know that but he algid took advantage of her and that whole situation - ARG !!! I'm so mad

Taking the words right out of my mouth Capp!

He's known from the beginning that he was her second choice??? And he went along ANYWAY? Hell, he actually PUSHED her from the friggen beginning after the night of the big mistake. He's an ass. An opportunistic ass. He KNEW that she loved Luke more than she loved him, and even so, the night the L/L break up, he's right there giving her a squicky when she says she had a bad night...what did he think...(Maybe he thought that she decided she didn't love Luke anymore and broke up with him, then went to Christopher that night for a quicky). Anyway, he had the nerve to say that night was 'perfect' and 'right.'

And you recall he said he could wait 80 years for her...meaning, he was actually 'willing' to be 'second choice but the right choice'...she could have married Luke for 80 years, Luke passes away, and he'd be there the night of the funeral with a ring.

Still don't get this...how is it that the breakup is done by Lorelai and not Christopher...it seems to me that Christopher is all ready to cut strings off and stop being her 'second choice.'

Continuity maybe?

ETA: Also, thanks Katie for recapping the DC's since I have no speakers here (I'm Michie from TwoP if you didn't notice). I said what I said about the L/A scene, all except that, watching JUST the non-verbal behaviour was really interesting and somewhat entertaining. It looked like SP did a fantastic scene there, and Anna was a bitch like always (so kudos to whatsherface). L/C scene is crapola...three ugly kisses. At least they're the last ones...EVER. Also, Anna has no right to say anything about Luke's relationships. BitchAssFace (I don't care if that's all censored). She doesn't know the specifics of his divorce nor of L/L's relationship (not that she deserves to know anything). Who's she to judge, Miss "I'm pretty much a nun and have no relationships for sake of my daughter"??? Does she know what happened to Luke in the past? No. Did she bother to care about the past 12 years of his life (or April's life without a dad?) No. Divorce happned because he was cheated on. In the end of it, Lorelai and LUke broke up because Luke took too long in saying "Yes" to the elopement, Loreali slept with Christopher...I do recall Luke actually going to Loreali's house apologizing and saying he needed to think faster and he's ready to marry her. Is that bailing?