This idea of the producers/writers/actors that LL permanently together could spell the end of the show always strikes me as strange. In a weird way, it actually overemphasizes the importance of LL to the show. Or it overemphasizes the importance of the LL destination to the story while underemphasizing the fan enjoyment of LL moments along the way. (Not saying journey, not saying journey.) I grant that a happy marriage might require Lorelai to shift her view and priorities somewhat, but that might be an interesting transitional process in itself. And Rory will always be a primary focus and friend for Lorelai.

I always thought the only relationship that, if resolved, could possibly end the show is Lorelai and Emily.

ETA Thanks to Mots for the spiffy new thread.

Thanks for taking out a second edition to my post, Caf, and reviving it.

Ciao, love the passion you added!

Bingo. That's what I thought too - the big IF was whether Lorelai and Emily (and Rory) would ever find a place where they could accept each other's very different lives. Not whether or not Luke could grow some balls or IF Lorelai could stay out of Chris' bed. And you're right, the charm of this show was showing small things big and big things small. Well L/L's happiness is a big freakin' zeppelin casting a huge shadow over the rest of the show, ready to crash and burn and take everybody with them. What I wouldn't give for another Bid-a-Basket moment. Or a simple arm around a shoulder because one of them were upset or scared. Or a disgusting Santa Burger. All those "little things" made up Luke and Lorelai. Not the Elusive Wedding at the End of the Series.

Bringing this post by gjoni over from the previous thread cos I missed it and it's soooo good:

BRAVO! I am getting more than sick of it. Are they more ****ed up than Lane and Zach? More than TJ and Liz? More than a philandering F Scott Fitzgerald Wanna-be who banged his way through Christmas break last year? I hardly think so. And yet....only L/L have to jump through ten million hoops, run through the fire-y fires of hell, walk barefoot on broken Zima bottles - before they can co-habitate, let only get married. Only Luke and Lorelai have to be PERFECT individuals before they can be happy together. Only Lorelai has to marry her childhood sweetheart before she can committ to the only man she ever loved. And only Luke has to raise a child before he can think about starting a family with the woman he loves.

This is so ****ed up. And L/L fans are being played and used, just so long as we bring the ratings. As long as we are in a relationship with L/L, if I could borrow a rant from Luke, we'll be back. At no time in television history has two people been made to suffer so endlessly and painfully for so long just to deliver a payoff that will last ten overly hyped and promoted minutes. And taking four million fans with them.

In the meantime, two twentysomethings have been annointed The Chosen Couple and will exit the show in an aura of Great Love, ready to lead the way for all the poor suckers who are incapable of having a mature relationship. Yippee. No offense to sophies here, but it's been seven years and I can't take it anymore.
Whew.

And thank god we have each other.

The hat told her too? It's all I can figure.

Ooh. We could have t-shirts. "Blame the hat."

I have a small rant, and this comes after skimming most of the previous main thread.

When people (specifically LL fans) say that we deserve the happy LL ending we were promised, why is it that others tend to jump in and say that we don't and that the "fictional characters" are the ones that deserve it? Is the line between fiction and reality so blurry that people can't see who really deserves closure? When the show is gone, the characters don't live on - we do.

And with that I say... we DO deserve a happy LL ending. We've waited eons for these two characters to come together (not since S5, like RL - but for 6 1/2 freaking years). We deserve a happy ending for these two characters just as much as the 2 1/2 year build up of RL - for the Sophies.

And not only do we deserve the above - we f'ing deserve a writer that's capable of bringing back the old dialogue - unlike the crap pile we've been getting this season. And NO, Mr. Ausiello - it doesn't have the same feel!

End of rant. Happy New Year!

When people (specifically LL fans) say that we deserve the happy LL ending we were promised, why is it that others tend to jump in and say that we don't and that the "fictional characters" are the ones that deserve it? Is the line between fiction and reality so blurry that people can't see who really deserves closure? When the show is gone, the characters don't live on - we do.