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Old 11-18-2006, 09:41 AM
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Bec, I agree that the main part of LL's learning and everything has to be done together. But separately Luke needs to see how April loves him for him and he needs to figure out how to work his daughter into his life on his own first. As well as figure out things with anna as far as getting rights and everything. Once he knows that April does love him for him and knows Anna won't be getting in the way or taking April away, he'll be able to let Lorelai into his life with April much easier.

As for Lorelai, she needs to see that what she had with Luke is worth fighting for and that even if she can't have it that she still doesn't want Chris or any other guy. This part for Lorelai is seeing how great Luke is again while no relationship is involved. And that's huge. He's being this great guy not to win her back or anything, but just because that's the great guy that he is.

But once CL are done, LL have a lot to work through together. To figure out how to trust eachother again, and how to forgive eachother for what they each did to screw up the relationship. And they also have to accept what them themselves did to ruin it all and they'll have to forgive themselves. I can see that being huge for lorelai. Even after Luke forgives her she still might constantly be trying to prove her devotion or something because she'll still feel guilty for the whole marriage to Chris.

i hope I'm making sense... I just put in a random tape to see what it was and it was the ultimatum scene in partings and now I'm all emotional and crying and my mind's all jumbly.
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Old 11-18-2006, 09:42 AM
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if, in 7.13 the only reason chris doesn't help emily is that he's moping over the fight he had with lorelai it tells alot about the kind of man he is. on one hand, we has chris, who is married to lorelai yet he won't lift a finger to help out his mother-in-law for the simple fact that he's depressed. he should put his own feelings aside and think of emily, who is under alot of stree with richard being sick. on the other hand, we have luke, who is not married to lorelai yet he chooses to help emily with whatever she needs, i think emily will finally see the difference between chris and luke. it would be cool to have a scene where emily apologizes to luke for being so nasty to him in the past and that she thinks he's a good man who is worthy of lorelai, maybe lorelai would overhear this and then "boom" she realizes she married the wrong guy.
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Old 11-18-2006, 09:46 AM
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if, in 7.13 the only reason chris doesn't help emily is that he's moping over the fight he had with lorelai it tells alot about the kind of man he is. on one hand, we has chris, who is married to lorelai yet he won't lift a finger to help out his mother-in-law for the simple fact that he's depressed. he should put his own feelings aside and think of emily, who is under alot of stree with richard being sick. on the other hand, we have luke, who is not married to lorelai yet he chooses to help emily with whatever she needs, i think emily will finally see the difference between chris and luke. it would be cool to have a scene where emily apologizes to luke for being so nasty to him in the past and that she thinks he's a good man who is worthy of lorelai, maybe lorelai would overhear this and then "boom" she realizes she married the wrong guy.

I agree... even if it isn't a moment for Emily to think that LL belong together, it'll be a huge moment for Lorelai to see that CL don't belong together.

I just love this whole thing. Chris is being old!Chris the self-absorbed mopey guy that feels sorry for himself and only is there for Rory/Lorelai when he sees it fit. And then we have Luke being the great guy Luke always was before 6.15 or so, who's always there for Lorelai no matter what and cares about family and everything. I just love it!

I keep seeing like Emily saying that the man helping her should be Lorelai's husband, meaning Chris, but it making it click in Lorelai's head that the man helping Emily, Luke, should be her husband, not Chris.
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Old 11-18-2006, 09:48 AM
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I think that the big fight that's in ep. 13 will start before Richard gets sick. it makes sense for Dopey to be sulking and then grudgingly showing up at the hospital and sulking some more. I don't see it as being they get to the hospital, Luke's being great, then Chris starts to sulk... you'd expect Chris to be super-husband if the fight started after they got there in order to prove himself against Luke, imo.


I too believe that after 7.10 there will be small fights that will lead to the big 7.13 blow out. I believe that starting from 7.08 we will see lorelai's regret.
So from now on the episodes will be quite alright to watch (except if we see the vows in 7.10-please please no)
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Old 11-18-2006, 09:56 AM
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I too believe that after 7.10 there will be small fights that will lead to the big 7.13 blow out. I believe that starting from 7.08 we will see lorelai's regret.
So from now on the episodes will be quite alright to watch (except if we see the vows in 7.10-please please no)
*evil laugh* I'm so excited to see CL fighting! I've always loved their fights maybe more than LL's. And i'm sure lots of little tiny fights and disagreements will be popping up all over the place, and maybe a more major fight in every ep building until the huge one in ep. 13.

I think her regret has clear from the end of ep. 7 and will just continue on... it's clear in the DC, and when she's talking to sookie in ep. 9, and probably when she sees Luke in ep. 10, and i'm sure there will be things in eps. 11 and 12 too.
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and when she's talking to sookie in ep. 9
What did i lose again? When is she talking to Sookie and what are they saying?


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Old 11-18-2006, 10:03 AM
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What did i lose again? When is she talking to Sookie and what are they saying?


Yes katie i will share the evil laugh
well, in ep. 9 we know that the town's not so happy with CL. Like they give Chris that gift, but lorelai can see that they're not being that honest. And then in the previews there's Lorelai with Sookie saying that she's sick of feeling bad that her life didn't turn out the way everyone hoped it would. So i just figure that she's talking about the town there, because she's obviously not talking about ER.

Also, i'm wonder how much of that is Lorelai's upset that her life didn't turn out the way she hoped it would.
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so who thinks that the first question from the town after finding out about Paris is gonna be "are you pregnant?"
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Old 11-18-2006, 10:19 AM
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so who thinks that the first question from the town after finding out about Paris is gonna be "are you pregnant?"
lol I can see it now.

Lorelai: Yea, we got married in Paris.
Babette: Are you pregnant?
Lorelai: Um no?
Patty and Babette: Oh. Well here's your gift.

Also regarding vows, would Chris be that pissed off at Luke if the vows did happen? And if it did, maybe Lorelai hesitates or messes up but only Chris caught it. Then, they have a little argument which leads him to be pissed off. Heck, I would be pissed off too if my man accidentally said another woman's name.
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Old 11-18-2006, 10:25 AM
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Mocha, I think that Chris might attribute Lorelai's not wanting to do the vows thing to her seeing Luke earlier, so he goes to confront Luke. I don't think that CL will do the vows anyways. The ep. description makes it seem like Chris leaves and then Lorelai/Emily have their discussion. But if they do go through with it, Lorelai wouldn't mess up the names, she'd just be like numb and sad the whole time, imo...
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Mocha, I think that Chris might attribute Lorelai's not wanting to do the vows thing to her seeing Luke earlier, so he goes to confront Luke. I don't think that CL will do the vows anyways. The ep. description makes it seem like Chris leaves and then Lorelai/Emily have their discussion. But if they do go through with it, Lorelai wouldn't mess up the names, she'd just be like numb and sad the whole time, imo...
I didn't mean just names but some sort of hesitant reaction. Maybe she is smiling but shows a nanosecond of sadness or uncertainty that drives Chris to believe she isn't committed. After the vows they will all mingle with their guests but Chris, having not strength to bottle it up, may ask her why she hesitated. And this will lead to a very public "I need to get out of here" and all the guests will watch him leave (thinking 'oh, this won't last very long. Why the hell did we spend so much on the gifts!) while Lorelai stands there unable to process it. And then Emily does her thing.

Wishful thinking perhaps.
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Old 11-18-2006, 10:53 AM
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As for Lorelai, she needs to see that what she had with Luke is worth fighting for and that even if she can't have it that she still doesn't want Chris or any other guy. This part for Lorelai is seeing how great Luke is again while no relationship is involved. And that's huge. He's being this great guy not to win her back or anything, but just because that's the great guy that he is.

i hope I'm making sense... I just put in a random tape to see what it was and it was the ultimatum scene in partings and now I'm all emotional and crying and my mind's all jumbly.
Katie, your mind may be jumbly, but your post isn't. gjoni was saying that Lorelai recognized how great Luke is, right up through Partings. She isn't really going to realize anything new. You're saying that that Lorelai needs to recognize it all over again... Did she lose sight of it in the pain of the breakup? Did she need the contrast with Chris to remind her or highlight Luke's rarity? (Does that make this all worth it?)

What I was trying to add is that there are two parts of "Luke is worth fighting for" -- recognizing that Luke is worth fighting for and knowing how to do it. You think Lorelai failed at the first one. I think, given that she put off the wedding and walked around miserable for an excruciating series of episodes, she was worse at the second. The first part requires an epiphany, the second requires a week in the Dr Phil house.
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Last - in the whole of Paris there is not one place open at 4 am serving food, anyone been to Paris, is this true?
I lived in Paris. While it is true that the more traditional french restaurants would be close or the one that are far from the touristic part would too, there is no way that they would not have found one in the tourist part of the city or they could have found plenty in the students part. Paris never sleeps. This was a true plot devices. It was just not possible, but then again their view of Paris and Parisian was so cliché, I wanted to vomit just for that. I'm pretty sure DSR never went there.
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*evil laugh* I'm so excited to see CL fighting! I've always loved their fights maybe more than LL's. And i'm sure lots of little tiny fights and disagreements will be popping up all over the place, and maybe a more major fight in every ep building until the huge one in ep. 13.

I think her regret has clear from the end of ep. 7 and will just continue on... it's clear in the DC, and when she's talking to sookie in ep. 9, and probably when she sees Luke in ep. 10, and i'm sure there will be things in eps. 11 and 12 too.
as soon as c/l got married, their relationship begins to disentergate. let the bickering begin half the fun of watching the c/l fights is cause she rakes him over the coals so bad.
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But once CL are done, LL have a lot to work through together. To figure out how to trust eachother again, and how to forgive eachother for what they each did to screw up the relationship. And they also have to accept what them themselves did to ruin it all and they'll have to forgive themselves.
Yes, and I hope it will be believable and realistic and not forced, since we only have 9 eps left....
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