Spoilers - Gilmore Girls~Luke/Lorelai Analysis & Spec #424 ~ Here’s Looking at You, Stars Hollow - Page 7

Tom08 · 05-16-2007, 06:20 AM

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He even told her that's the way to do it damn it. Let your actions speak and he always did it. The one time he didn't do it 24/7 for her she dumped him in the gutter and ran to Chris.

Don`t forget Luke`s rant in 6.01 !

I mean, I care, but... you know what, no. I really -- I don't care. It's like it's not even real to me. It's like my life isn't even real to me unless you're there, and you're in it, and I'm sharing it with you. And, uh, I don't know what I was waiting for, and I don't know what I was scared of, but I'm not. I'm not scared, and I'm not waiting. I'm here.

Hell...if this isn`t a way to express his feelings...nothing is !

This is for sure the most beautiful declaration of love that she got in the whole series !

clmorrow · 05-16-2007, 06:31 AM

I never watched that scene or any of the episodes with the creepy Chris in them, but I'd read it at the time and it just broke my heart - that she could have hurt him in the worse way possible and then her reaction to his outpouring of his feelings - if I think about all that at all, I want Luke to run far and fast in the opposite direction - because I think he deserves someone else - but, if Luke is happy, then I'm happy.

Simplistic - yeah, but since there's no more coming, I will have to live with it.

Grisu · 05-16-2007, 06:36 AM

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Grisu

Have to agree once more to your entire post

He even told her that's the way to do it damn it. Let your actions speak and he always did it. The one time he didn't do it 24/7 for her she dumped him in the gutter and ran to Chris.

Oh I'm completely with you on the House/Cuddy thing

I'm not that invested in them but boy do they rock my socks already.

Thanks, it's really good to know that I'm not the only one feeling this way.

About her running to Chris: I just realized that that wasn't even the first time she did that. Remember 'Teach me tonight'? In many ways the situation was similar (well, except for Rory getting hurt). They had a disagreement about Jess and Luke didn't imidiatly jump on her bandwagon, but (god forbid) was concerned for his nephew and consequently didn't put Lorelai first.

He was trying to look out for a family member, his own blood so to speak, and in many ways Jess was like a son to Luke (I think all the Luke/Jess scenes in LWFTWT only strengthen that theory - their hug at the end was one of my all time favourite scenes) and for once Lorelai had to come second. And whoosh she was of to find Chris faster than you can say whoopie.

In many ways the April-situation was similar (I'm not saying it was entirely the same, just there're are too many similarities for it to be coincidental):

- Lorelai not speaking up about her real feelings on the situation (she tried the same with Jess and it didn' work out too well back then either)

- Lorelai freaking out at the worst possible moment and blaming everything on Luke and not even listening when he did manage to get a word in edgewise

- then she didn't imidiatly get the response she wanted so of course she ignored everything else he said

- and then she ran to Chris, her one true friend [please note the sarcasm]

You know, Luke's insecurities weren't all that unfounded...

And I love Cuddy, especially when she makes fun of House. Here's hoping they won't go for the whole Cameron BS! To quote Cuddy: "I never really got the whole May/December thing..." I'm all for October/October

Cappie · 05-16-2007, 06:41 AM

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Babette asking Lorelai if she wanted to make a Morey sandwich will go down as one of my all time favorite lines. So funny, so disturbing, so wonderfully Babette.

ROFL. I missed it the first time because I was crying my eyes out and impaintently wainting for the kiss. But you're right. Funny :-)

Watched the last 5 mins again. Just love to see how Luke stares at Lorelai with the biggest smile on his face while Lorelai and Rory talk about the menu.

lilmelodie · 05-16-2007, 06:42 AM

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Oy. Al Gore and the greeenies may hate me for saying this, but one good thing about this series ending is that the whole forest of trees we've been circling for two seasons will finally be mowed down and turned into . . . I dunno, a new chuppah for the L/L wedding or something.

Hee! Works for me.

Solidarity Sister · 05-16-2007, 07:08 AM

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Luke was great and thanks to him and his storyline once again I could at least enjoy the episode a bit. When they showed him in the diner sewing those tarps together - yep I admit it I nearly cried.

Nearly cried...that is the moment when I completely lost it! And I had a hard time pulling it back together after that point!

GEORGEIII · 05-16-2007, 07:10 AM

Arrivederci Tutti! It certainly has been lively.

Onwards to fanfic!

Cappuccino · 05-16-2007, 07:13 AM

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Thanks, it's really good to know that I'm not the only one feeling this way.

About her running to Chris: I just realized that that wasn't even the first time she did that. Remember 'Teach me tonight'? In many ways the situation was similar (well, except for Rory getting hurt). They had a disagreement about Jess and Luke didn't imidiatly jump on her bandwagon, but (god forbid) was concerned for his nephew and consequently didn't put Lorelai first.

He was trying to look out for a family member, his own blood so to speak, and in many ways Jess was like a son to Luke (I think all the Luke/Jess scenes in LWFTWT only strengthen that theory - their hug at the end was one of my all time favourite scenes) and for once Lorelai had to come second. And whoosh she was of to find Chris faster than you can say whoopie.

In many ways the April-situation was similar (I'm not saying it was entirely the same, just there're are too many similarities for it to be coincidental):

- Lorelai not speaking up about her real feelings on the situation (she tried the same with Jess and it didn' work out too well back then either)

- Lorelai freaking out at the worst possible moment and blaming everything on Luke and not even listening when he did manage to get a word in edgewise

- then she didn't imidiatly get the response she wanted so of course she ignored everything else he said

- and then she ran to Chris, her one true friend [please note the sarcasm]

You know, Luke's insecurities weren't all that unfounded...

And I love Cuddy, especially when she makes fun of House. Here's hoping they won't go for the whole Cameron BS! To quote Cuddy: "I never really got the whole May/December thing..." I'm all for October/October

Yep I'm with you on that one too

The season 2 ending and season 6 ending are way too similar to ignore. She gets into a fight with Luke and she takes off and runs to Chris or rather takes him to distract herself from her Luke problems.
I mean Luke tells her she should go to hell. She does it and goes to Chris. Now Luke told her she belongs with someone like Chris and why should she look for someone like him when she can get the real one.

They definitely shouldn't go down the Cam/House road. No chemistry there at all but House/Cuddy - uh steaming hot

ckomodo · 05-16-2007, 07:13 AM

It's interesting that now that the show has been for sure cancelled that some of the cast have stopped being politicaly correct about the writing this season and saying what they really think. So much talent on one show and they throw it in the crapper just to have a big cliff hanger last year (a totally cring-worthy cliff hanger) and marry Lorelai and Chris this year. What a waste. As I was watching Rory and Lane being grown-ups together and Lorelai and Emily talking about the Inn, not to mention Lorelai and Luke kissing and looking into eachother's eyes (all the L/C kisses were so smoochy and juviniel) that's all I could think - of all the story left to be told.

Wheredidtheanvilsgo? · 05-16-2007, 07:21 AM

EW Reviev. Enjoy.

clmorrow · 05-16-2007, 07:24 AM

I was happy they did throw us the one crumb of having them color coordinated the last two episodes - subtle but obvious.

What a waste of a year - I never bought into the argument that C/L had to marry in order to finish off that storyline - I would have found it much more interesting had they shown Lorelai being conflicted about her feelings for both of them, possibly even going as far as considering marrying the deadbeat, but then getting her right mind back and realizing she would only be wasting her time with the "loser other guy."

Again, what a waste of the last season. Regardless of how it ended last night, I will always feel they blew it big time.

Cappuccino · 05-16-2007, 07:31 AM

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EW Reviev. Enjoy.

Bringing the whole review over

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I was prepared to be disappointed. I bet a lot of you were too. And I got nervous there in the beginning, after that hammy introduction of Rory to her hero Christiane Amanpour. Really? Would a journalist of her stature really be impressed by a stammering elf in a cute dolly tee and jogging pants? That's all it takes to get Christiane's business card? But that's it from me today. That's the last time I'll roll my eyes at season 7. Because, and I don't think I'm being overly sentimental here, last night really was a dandy.

At Friday Night Dinner — am I in this post-Gilmore Girls world going to have to start a Friday Night Dinner club? — Emily is crabby that Rory missed cocktail hour to network instead. She wants after-dinner drinks as payback. Lorelai blanches. But when Rory trots in with news that she'll be leaving in three days to start following Barack Obama on the campaign trail (Hollywood loves Barack! Don't hold it against him!), everyone kind of crumples in their seat. Lorelai does an admirable job of pushing her panic aside and is sweetly firm and confident in her daughter's ability to rise to the challenge. Who cares if their month-long roller-coaster adventure is now toast? Her daughter has to get on the bus! This scene may have been the first time this season that Rory has shown any of the spunk and quiet grit of seasons past. Maybe that little girl in the strange purple top will make it after all! Emily, on the other hand, looks sucker-punched at the idea of losing her granddaughter, and thus her hold on Lorelai, so soon. But then Lorelai soothes her by saying, ''After-dinner drinks for sure.'' I wanted to cry tonight. I'm crying!

With Rory so suddenly employed, there's no time to plan the graduation-reenactment party. She and Lorelai have fanny packs and book lights (miss you, Paris!) to find. So Luke takes it upon himself to plan the surprise party that the town needs to feel good about sending Rory off into the world. There's a brilliant moment with Miss Patty sticking her face out of her darkened studio doors, telling Lorelai she's communing with her muse and can't be bothered. Cut to a cowering line of Stars Hollow's finest inside. Later, Luke, so strangely full of go-get-'em pep, cuts off Taylor's caterwauling and spurs everyone into action. Kirk offers to DJ. Oh, Captain K, what I'd do for one of your college mixtapes. (Speaking of Kirk, check out Mandi Bierly's most excellent conversation with Sean Gunn, who shared his top 10 Kirk moments from the last seven seasons.) In one of the night's funnier scenes, Babette comes careening into the town square, her arms waving in front of her like a zombie having a spaz attack, warning Luke of her swollen ankles. Her hair is 50/50, but the ankles don't lie. It's going to rain, and the party will be a washout. I know there's a lot of Christopher fans out there, as well as fans of the ''don't mess with Luke and Lorelai's friendship'' formula. But how not to think that she'd be in good hands with a man who stays up all night in his diner sewing together patches of fabric so her daughter's party won't be ruined. It took me years, but I'm a believer. Marry the guy.

Rory, meanwhile, has ducked out from under her mother's perky wing to say goodbye to Lane. Unsurprisingly, the scene was unfulfilling. These two have drifted, and those actors aren't going to sell lines like ''I don't know what it's like to have a sister, but I feel like I do, you know?'' Suck on that, Gigi! Back at home, Lorelai's on an ironing binge to stave off her frantic sense of loss. When Rory gooses her for some emotion, Lorelai's chin starts puckering, and she insists she's not ready to get sad. It's too soon, and they've got 36 more hours, and oh my, I can't handle this. I wish I owned an ironing board. In a relationship defined by quick wit and banter, thank you, writers, for the quiet, devastating moment when Lorelai checks on her sleeping daughter. The la-la-la music was at its achiest, and Lorelai was in a hoodie, and she was pulling up Rory's blanket, and the chin was going, and not a word was spoken.

I thought nothing could top the oomph of that moment, but when Lorelai and Rory drove up the next day and saw the town clutching pinwheel umbrellas, gathered together under a makeshift tent, my own chin started getting a little crumbly. Why don't I iron? Thank you, Kirk, for lightening the mood! ''Rory, in my official capacity as town sash presenter,'' he says, ''I would like to present you with this sash,'' and then he tells Lorelai that he ''got the material from one of mother's nighties'' Love it!

My composure left my living room when the camera turned to the grandparents standing alone on the edge of the party. So vulnerable, those two! Poor Emily can't stop with the fussy routine, which we all know means that she's cracking a little inside and that sneer is all she's got to protect her. Richard, building on his kind words to Lorelai last week at graduation, is turning into one giant-size, bow-tied teddy bear. He starts praising Lorelai for the love and devotion she earned in Stars Hollow and acknowledging his own regrets before Emily cuts the loving off quick: ''Oh, please don't become one of those 'I had a heart attack, let me express my every thought' types.'' Nice try, Emily, not buying it! Later, she corners Lorelai and needles her again about adding on a spa element to the Dragonfly. See, they'll lend her money, and of course they'll have to get together every now and then to discuss the project, but it's really for the good of the inn. Lorelai finally gets it and announces that they can discuss the matter further over the next Friday Night Dinner. They're alive and well! And the way Kelly Bishop unclenched her jaw and shoulders, the way her whole being visibly softened upon news that she would not lose whatever tenuous tether she had to her daughter, was just terrific. And then she snapped back to Emily Gilmore. ''Don't be late and don't wear jeans!'' Those two will go down as one of my favorite mother-daughter relationships in TV history.

And then we came to the line where a sob surprised me by shooting up my esophagus and exploding in the back of my throat. The grandparents are saying goodbye to Rory, and Emily gets all serious for a second and grabs Rory's arm and tells her, ''It's an honor to be your grandmother, Rory Gilmore.'' After typing that, I'm thinking, well, is that little line, a throwaway on paper, really what made a bomb go off in my mouth? But the delivery was moving without being mushy, and I remain for life a sucker for Kelly Bishop.

Cheers for the graceful wrap-up of the endlessly frustrating Luke and Lorelai story. When Lorelai hears that it wasn't Sookie who planned the whole affair, that it was Luke who stayed up all night sewing a patchwork tent of raincoats, well, what's a girl to do but march across that same street that knocked them on their asses so many times and smooch the guy. I bet many fans will feel cheated that they got but a second of that long-awaited kiss before the camera panned off to focus on the town square. I loved it. I loved that we got to see them reconcile without a lot of words, and that whatever romance they cook up is now their business alone. I don't want to see him giving her a necklace and promising to make babies that very night. I want her wearing the necklace and him rightfully in the background the next morning while she says goodbye to her daughter.

So the series ended where it began, in Luke's diner, with Rory and Lorelai making love to their coffee and ordering an obscene amount of food. When they leave us, they're jabbering away at each other, protected from the world by their enormous, enthusiastic, almost childlike appreciation of their best friend before them. See you later, girls.

And goodbye to you, Mrs. Kim, wherever you are!

But what did you readers think? Do you feel ambushed by the finale or well taken care of? You know which line grabbed hold of my throat. Which one really got to you? Are you satisfied with the kiss? Can you picture Rory on a campaign bus? And how long will you mourn Gilmore Girls before you pick a new TV show to obsess about? What's in the running?

lilmelodie · 05-16-2007, 07:47 AM

I love this line from the EW review

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I know there's a lot of Christopher fans out there, as well as fans of the ''don't mess with Luke and Lorelai's friendship'' formula. But how not to think that she'd be in good hands with a man who stays up all night in his diner sewing together patches of fabric so her daughter's party won't be ruined. It took me years, but I'm a believer. Marry the guy.

Cappie · 05-16-2007, 07:48 AM

Thank you for the heads up, anvils and thank you Cappucino for bringing it over.

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In one of the night's funnier scenes, Babette comes careening into the town square, her arms waving in front of her like a zombie having a spaz attack, warning Luke of her swollen ankles. Her hair is 50/50, but the ankles don't lie.

That was sooo funny. The way Luke looked at her ankles.

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I thought nothing could top the oomph of that moment, but when Lorelai and Rory drove up the next day and saw the town clutching pinwheel umbrellas, gathered together under a makeshift tent, my own chin started getting a little crumbly.

That's where I completly lost it. Bawling like a baby...

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Thank you, Kirk, for lightening the mood! ''Rory, in my official capacity as town sash presenter,'' he says, ''I would like to present you with this sash,'' and then he tells Lorelai that he ''got the material from one of mother's nighties'' Love it!

Absolutely. Kirk to the rescue. He's my man.

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Lorelai finally gets it and announces that they can discuss the matter further over the next Friday Night Dinner. They're alive and well! And the way Kelly Bishop unclenched her jaw and shoulders, the way her whole being visibly softened upon news that she would not lose whatever tenuous tether she had to her daughter, was just terrific. And then she snapped back to Emily Gilmore. ''Don't be late and don't wear jeans!'' Those two will go down as one of my favorite mother-daughter relationships in TV history.

Amen!

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I bet many fans will feel cheated that they got but a second of that long-awaited kiss before the camera panned off to focus on the town square. I loved it. I loved that we got to see them reconcile without a lot of words, and that whatever romance they cook up is now their business alone. I don't want to see him giving her a necklace and promising to make babies that very night. I want her wearing the necklace and him rightfully in the background the next morning while she says goodbye to her daughter.

ETA: Even though I'm somewhat satisfied I'm not one to say no to more, so I finished with my contribution to the GG G8mandate campaign. Not that I think it will work, but hey.. A girl can try :-))

Cappuccino · 05-16-2007, 07:58 AM

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I know there's a lot of Christopher fans out there, as well as fans of the ''don't mess with Luke and Lorelai's friendship'' formula. But how not to think that she'd be in good hands with a man who stays up all night in his diner sewing together patches of fabric so her daughter's party won't be ruined. It took me years, but I'm a believer. Marry the guy.

Someone did not watch properly but whatever.