Spoilers - Gilmore Girls~Luke/Lorelai Analysis & Spec #424 ~ Here’s Looking at You, Stars Hollow

caf123 · 05-15-2007, 11:24 PM

Gilmore Girls ~ Luke/Lorelai Analysis & Speculation
Here’s Looking at You, Stars Hollow
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So Long, Farewell
Lyrics - courtesy of dream****

Washington Post: Is This Really Goodbye, 'Girls'? 'Gilmore' Fans May Be Unhappy With the Show's Abrupt Ending

Entertainment Weekly: Stars Hollow Ending - courtesy of Wheredidtheanvilsgo and Cappucino

]TV Guide, Robin Honig: The Goodbye Girls - courtesy of Lancer1993

The Sacramento Bee: This one's for the 'Girls' - courtesy of clmorrow

Bitchslap TV: Oy with the Poodles Already: The End of "Gilmore Girls" – courtesy of Lady_Amalcia

TV Squad: Scott Patterson: In the Limelight – courtesy of peachypeep

Entertainment Weekly: Gunning For the Last Laugh – courtesy of Mots15

Book: Coffee at Luke's: An Unauthorized Gilmore Girls Gabfest - courtesy of Ciaobella

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Episode 7.22: Bon Voyage
Repeat airs Sunday May 20

Written by: David Rosenthal
Directed by: Lee Shallat Chemel

Cut scene from finale: Lorelai at Sookie's house - courtesy of Nicolalala

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Other Spoilers:

Luke kisses Lorelai back - courtesy of lancer

L/L kiss - courtesy of lancer

No L/L sex scene this season - courtesy of Saranoh

Luke and Lorelai romantically involved by end of season - courtesy of lancer

LG Encounter - courtesy of zoobymoo

Ask Ausiello:

May 16 2007: schmaltzy and unfulfilling

May 9 2007: It's all about 7.22

May 2 2007: More about The Kiss

April 25 2007: The Kiss

April 18 2007: Season 8 Announcement Imminent

April 11 2007: Things are looking up

Mar 28 2007: I Will Always Love You

Mar 21 2007: Rory's grad is not the finale.

Mar 14 2007: LL fight ends positively!

Mar 07 2007: Car Shopping, Fighting, and Singing - Oh My!

Feb 28 2007: Welcome back to the diner?

Feb 14 2007: Apologies All Around

Jan 31 2007: Married? Just kidding.

Jan 23 2007: Married, baby, 8th season

Dec 20 2006: Lorelai and Christopher Fall Out

Dec 6 2006: Luke in, Christopher out

Nov 15 2006: Troubles ahead for LC, Luke helps Emily

Nov 8 2006: Poignant & Green

Nov 1 2006: Blah, blah, blah

Apr 25 2006: Reaction to interview

Ausiello Report/Vodcast:

Mary 15 2007: Now in audio - SP snippets on vodcast

May 12 2007: Scott Patterson's Final Gilmore Girls Interview

May 10 2007: More from LG Final Interview on Vodcast

May 09 2007: Lauren Graham's Final Gilmore Girls Interview

May 02 2007: Gilmore Season 8 Talks at a "Standstill"

Apr 15 2007: Short Season 8?

Apr 10 2007: More Emotion Please

Mar 15 2007: Christiane Amanpour Makes An Appearance

Feb 28 2007: Lorelai enters the diner

Jan 29 2007: LG gets producer credits

Oct 24 2006: DR Interview about elopement

Sept 14 2006: Spoilerganza

July 17 2006: Interview with Dave Rosenthal

July 17 2006: TCA Summer Press Tour

June 7 2006: Interview with Lauren Graham

Apr 24 2006: Interview with Amy & Dan

General Spoilers:
*if you have a general spoiler to share, please PM the thread starter so that they can update the list below*

Congrats to Melissa McCarthy - baby girl born May 5. Huzzah! - courtesy of Damselfly

GG sets torn down – courtesy of Ciaobella

LG on Ellen May 8 - courtesy of gossipcom

More about those season 8 Negotiations - Part II - courtesy of SassyPaws from TWOP

List of articles about cancellation

SP holding deal with WB studios - courtesy of SPA - more info courtesy of Gossipcom

LG & David Grae/Rosenthal interviews - courtesy of gilmore maniac & Mots15

Ausiello Right About S8 - courtesy of sportygirl@TWoP

Sookie doesn't attend graduation - courtesy of Saranoh

Season 8 looks more likely than not courtesy of SassyPaws

Season 8 decision already made - courtesy of AkaranafeatMeeko, Saranoh & dirty twin

More on S8 - courtesy of SassyPaws@TWoP

Doll house is back next to the new TV - courtesy of glo

MM Cast in Pilot - courtesy of caf123

Tour Reports:

April 13th Tour Info more.- courtesy of LoopyGiggles@TV.com

April 12th Tour Info - courtesy of sd6@TwoP

April 12th Tour info – courtesy of cchurley@TWoP

April 11th Tour Info - courtesy of alwaysbeenyou

April 10th Tour Info - courtesy of malangue

April 9th Tour Info pics– courtesy of angel312@TWoP

April 4th & 6th Tour Info – courtesy of Katiegg108

April 4th Tour Info – courtesy of lulu1960@TWoP

April 2nd Tour Info – courtesy of lulu1960 & angel312@TWoP

March 7th Tour Info - courtesy of Tru_Slayer@TV.Com

March 19th Tour Info - courtesy of little_earthquake

March 16th Tour Info - courtesy of BigB

March 16th Tour Info More - courtesy of glo1196@mac.com

Video and Promos:

7.22 Global Promo - courtesy of 2ggObsessed

7.22 Global Promo on YouTube - courtesy of gossipcom

7.22 Extended promo - courtesy of Jet1945

7.22 Extended Promo on YouTube - courtesy of Withbatedbreath

Audio promo directions - courtesy of Caf123

722 Directors cut-courtesy of Wheredidtheanvilsgo

Directors cut on youtube courtesy of Pimbolina

7.22 DC-Avi version-courtesy of Cappucciono

LG 'Ellen' interview on YouTube - courtesy of blaab

722 Promo - courtesy of fan1bsb97

722 Promo on You Tube - courtesy of Cappuccino

Liza Weil Video Interview

Ed Herrmann Video Interview

Podcast and Clip Transcripts:

Global 7.22 Promo – aired Friday, May 11, 2007 – courtesy of 2ggobsessed

11 May 2007 Podcast - courtesy of GGAva

04 May 2007 Podcast - courtesy of GGAva

7.21 Directors Cut Transcript - courtesy of Lancer

27 April 2007 Podcast - courtesy of GGAva

7.20 Global Promo Transcript – courtesy of 2ggobsessed

7.20 Director's Cut Transcript - courtesy of lancer

EH Interview Transcript

LW Interview Transcript

20 April 2007 Podcast - courtesy of lorelaisgirl

Clips:

Episode 7.22: Bon Voyage
Episode clips - courtesy of blaab
LL clips:
Bon Voyage LL - YouSendIt - Megaupload – courtesy of 2ggObsessed
LL scenes - YouTube - courtesy of Cappucino
And So It Ends – Luke/Lorelai/Rory – courtesy of Jet1945
The Start (Pilot) – Luke/Lorelai/Rory – courtesy of Jet1945

Episode 7.21: Unto the Breach
Episode clips - courtesy of blaab
LL diner scenes courtesy of 2ggObsessed

Episode 7.20: Lorelai? Lorelai?
Episode clips - courtesy of blaab
IWALY karaoke clip courtesy of Jet1945 - YouTube courtesy of Genki - mp3 courtesy of Gossipcom

Episode 7.19: Just Like Riding A Bike:
Episode clips - LL scenes only courtesy of fan1bsb97
Episode clips - courtesy of blaab

Season 7 Episodes

Unaired Pilot - courtesy of blaab

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blaab · 05-15-2007, 11:26 PM

Thanks for the new thread Caf!

Episode 7.22 – Bon Voyage –

Megaupload
7.22 Part 1
7.22 Part 2
7.22 Part 3
7.22 Part 4

Sendspace
7.22 Part 1
7.22 Part 2
7.22 Part 3
7.22 Part 4

Filefront Thanks for uploading Ele309!
7.22 Part 1
7.22 Part 2
7.22 Part 3
7.22 Part 4

YouSendIt Set
Only use these links if the other sets don't work for you. Thanks!
7.22 Part 1
7.22 Part 2
7.22 Part 3
7.22 Part 4

PM me if any problems or questions ... ETA: the YSI links will be replaced by new ones occasionally, so check later if not working now, since there might be new links later!

caf123 · 05-15-2007, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rach3975 (View Post)

This was part of the Washington Post's article...

Thanks, Rach3975. That was a great article. Bringing the rest over:

Quote:

Is This Really Goodbye, 'Girls'?
'Gilmore' Fans May Be Unhappy With the Show's Abrupt Ending

By Jennifer Frey
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, May 15, 2007; C01

For seven years there are those who have been a bit obsessed with Lorelai and Rory, the "Gilmore Girls." It started with that freakishly near-perfect mother-daughter thing they have going. Helped along by the rapid-fire dialogue "Gilmore" is known for, they are two halves of the same whole, finishing each other's sentences, each seemingly telegraphing the other's thoughts.

The other object of fascination is Luke, diner guy, the one who always had the thing for Lorelai (and she for him). The one who was a better father-figure to Rory than her real dad ever was. The one who indulged their addictions to caffeine and fries.

Will Luke and Lorelai ever get married? That is the tantalizing, and ever-lingering, question, one that is evergreen in romantic comedies and dramas (think Carrie and Mr. Big on "Sex and the City" or Rachel and Ross on "Friends").

But what if there is no answer?

Forget closure, people. It appears the fans are the ones getting left at the altar.

(Spoiler alert, for those "Gilmore" fans who for some reason haven't been hanging on every utterance from Lauren Graham, who plays Lorelai. She disclosed that although the couple are headed in a positive "direction" -- as she put it to TV Guide -- there ain't no wedding.)

Tonight, "Gilmore Girls" comes to an end after seven seasons -- six on the now-extinct WB, the current one on the CW -- and, according to more than one cast member, the conclusion is less than satisfying. (The network did not provide an advance copy of the episode.) One of those shows that had only decent ratings but a tremendously loyal following, "Gilmore" wraps up in a way that series regular Kelly Bishop describes as "disrespectful" to fans.

"There's so much written into that script, it almost seemed as if -- certainly with my character, certainly with Lorelai and Luke -- that we were ready to move on to the next story line," says Bishop, who plays Emily Gilmore, Lorelai's often prickly mother. "That we were ready to begin the next season in the very next moment . . . I see a series of dots after the last scene of the show, rather than a period, or better yet, an exclamation point."

There was a sense this was coming. After contract negotiations with its two stars (Graham and Alexis Bledel, who plays Rory) dragged on, "Gilmore" wrapped its season finale before it was certain that it would also be the series finale. For a brief blip, hope surged that the show would return for an abbreviated 13-episode season in the fall. But the network pulled the plug a few weeks ago.

"I felt like the bottom dropped out," Bishop says. "I thought [the 13-episode season] was excellent because we could really wrap up the stories nice and neat and kind of give the audience a chance to say goodbye."

Truth is, the show has been ready to go for a while now. Last year, series creator Amy Sherman-Palladino left, and David Rosenthal took over as the show's supervisor. The writing, says Edward Herrmann (who plays Richard Gilmore, Lorelai's father), then "tended to lose a little of its sharp edges." And there were plot twists that irked the faithful. Lorelai married Rory's biological father in a spur-of-the-moment wedding in France, a detour that has since been disposed of. Logan, Rory's debatable boyfriend, proposed in the middle of a formal graduation party at her grandparents' house -- a move that any Gilmore fan would consider cringeworthy.

So it comes to this: In the penultimate episode, which aired last week, Rory said no to Logan's proposal. Which is probably a good thing, given that she's only 22 and she's incredibly brilliant and she doesn't need to be limiting her future career to a 60-mile radius of where he's already chosen to live. Still, did he really mean it when he said it was all or nothing? Marry me or you're dumped? Whoa. Some whiplash there. There must be some fallout coming on this one . . . oops. Nope. No time left for that.

Luke and Lorelai, meanwhile, are in another one of those moments where they are misreading signals and not talking to each other about how they feel and generally stalling on their way to a magnificent future together. We think.

"There are suggestions that it would be resolved that way," Herrmann says, "but we'll never know, because we didn't know it was going to be over. You don't have the emotionally satisfying moments. After seven years, each of those storylines needs its own episode, almost."

What will happen will be a town-wide graduation party for Rory, one last hurrah for the fictional hamlet of Stars Hollow, with all its quirky and endearing regulars -- Sookie and Jackson, Lane and Zack, Kirk and Taylor, Miss Patty and Babette. With such a crowded final setting, Bishop says, it was hard to have many intimate moments.

"It's unfortunate that, I think, a lot of those fans are going to think there isn't closure," says Liza Weil, who plays Rory's best friend, Paris, and who points out that the writers were hamstrung by the situation. "Hopefully, there won't be toilet paper in the trees of all the writers."

Then again, Weil got her conclusion. She's off to Harvard Medical School, and she had a final goodbye hug with Rory in last week's episode. She's not in tonight's finale, and only vaguely knows how it wraps up.

No one from the production end of the show was willing to talk, but this much we were told: The pilot for "Gilmore" started with Lorelai in the diner, holding out her coffee mug, begging Luke for her sixth cup of caffeine for the morning. Shortly after, she was joined by Rory. And, in the final scene tonight, it will once again be Luke, Lorelai and Rory hanging out in the diner. And they'll be headed in a good "direction," to once again quote Graham.

Only where that direction leads them, there's no way to know.

Tea-Bee · 05-15-2007, 11:33 PM

Thanks for the new thread caf!
And thanks blaab!

LukeDanesIsLove · 05-15-2007, 11:43 PM

Thanks for the thread, caf!

lancer1993 · 05-15-2007, 11:43 PM

Thanks caf,

It's going to be sad when I don't say that at least once a day!

tazzded · 05-15-2007, 11:43 PM

Thanks for the new thread!

Geesh...with all this moving around happening in my life, we still haven't got the tivo or dvd recorder set up. So I guess, I need to cough.

Mel~in~Oz · 05-15-2007, 11:47 PM

For us overseas is anyone able to *cough* this ep?

Thanks for all the work everyone has put into these threads with news, pics, comments, clips etc... For us who dodn't get it in our countries we really appreciate all the work everyone has put into this and kept my love of GG going. I'm going to miss the show but also this forum so much x

blaab · 05-15-2007, 11:49 PM

See post #2 of this thread Mel!

Cappuccino · 05-15-2007, 11:52 PM

Thanks Caf

Ok where is the toilet paper and how do I find DO and Rosenthal's house ? Oh forget the toilet paper I need the special kit from JackB.

Go to hell all of them.

Tea-Bee · 05-16-2007, 12:17 AM

Thank you blabb!!!

Even if it is the last time

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gjoni · 05-16-2007, 12:20 AM

Thanks for the thread, caf.

blaab, thank you so much, for these last ever clips*, and all the numerous others this season!!! You made the show accessible to us all.

(*Can you believe this is really it? I can't, hasn't sunk in yet.)

blaab · 05-16-2007, 12:26 AM

Nah, it is really weird ... definitely! I still have to watch the ep, of course I have watched snippets while making the clips, but without sound and all ... so I don't know if I am prolonging the inevitable

And if I keep talking about a very long hiatus, I do expect someone to slap me on the head and wake me up

lancer1993 · 05-16-2007, 12:37 AM

Thanks for the DL links blaab

so I guess the cough is 100%

Tom08 · 05-16-2007, 12:38 AM

Thank you so much blaab !

You were our hero in the last months and years for all the work you have done with the clips !

Even if it is the last time, it`s so great that there are people out there who are willing to do something really nice like this for only a few nice words !

You rock !

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