[blaab]

Yep, Sandra ... besides missing Logan, I am also missing Emily and Richard.

Okee, regardless of the fact that I hate that Rory says no to the proposal in ep 21 ... I do think there are some good pointers that things will work out in the next season. First off Rory is apparantly having a slight melt-down, like Paris was clearly having or well so I felt. But more importantly I felt that the two couples were mirrored in the last ep by Sookie/Jackson and by Paris/Doyle. The first in relation to L/L ... Lorelai and Jackson both not being forgiven yet, but ending up forgiven (kind of). And well we do know that L/L will head off into a good place, even thought the movement will be only slightly in this Season. Than we have Paris/Doyle, I am thinking them getting back together won't be a case of showing the opposite of what Rory/Logan will end like up, but is actually forshadowing of what is to come ... so yeah, in Season 8, but just taking things slower as Paris/Doyle were showed.

I dunno, maybe still just wishfullthinking and lack of sleep ... just give the news about MC and season 8 already!!!

[notoutforawalk]

That's Jess's voice that whispered that in my brain? Huh. It must have been a Luke scene, because I tended to block out scenes with him and anyone else.

My big beef is the in love part. Like Paris is beyond crazy organized, when she makes Rory Gilmore note taking look sane, (Says the girl who took notes in multiple colors, for ease of studying.) but I am having issues with the love part. Grr. Also, Doyle and Zach both get their girls, but Logan doesn't? *deep breaths*

I don't get why we could have a long distance thing this year and it was fine, but not next year.

[TheJSW]

Liane, who cares if she hangs on to her job? What does that matter? If she's freaking out on the time. This daft woman does not want to choose love. She can go take a short walk off a long pier. This is not heroine material. This is total loser material. Rory Gilmore wants a job more than love. So she can go **** off.

ETA: Logan is too pretty to be with one woman! Let the guys who are not SUPER PRETTY have dames! That's SQUARSIES right there!

[secret life]

Originally Posted by notoutforawalk (View Post) But really, are Paris and Doyle that much more organized and in love than Rory and Logan? Really? Bah. (And I like Paris and Doyle. But really?)

Doyle was the one who was ready to drop everything to be with Paris. Honestly? I don't want to see Logan do that. I think it's right that after Rory telling him no, he walks away. Let her figure things out by herself (and pine away).

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About the "asking for permission" thing. Where I come from, this is pretty standard practice, so it doesn't boggle me so much. It is more a formality (the guy doesn't really act on the parents' wishes)...a sign that you're acknowledging the role of the parents. I guess knowing how close Lorelai and Rory are, Logan just wanted to show that he realizes that. Perhaps he knew that Lorelai's opinion is very important to Rory, and he wanted to make sure she knew about his plans. Would he have NOT proposed if Lorelai said DON'T? I don't think so; I think he'll be banking on his relationship with Rory. (And we don't know what Lorelai would actually say, knowing Rory's headspace in 7.20, I actually think she'll advise Logan against it.)

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Thanks for the PBP, Sher!
For the clips, Blaab!
For the thread, Christine!

[catkirk7]

(And we don't know what Lorelai would actually say, knowing Rory's headspace in 7.20, I actually think she'll advise Logan against it.)

I don't think so. Not after her talking about not thinking she should have an opinion about Rory's boyfriends anymore. They may show us that she thinks it's a bad idea, but to actually say it, I doubt it.

Not, it was a Luke scene. I think when he was planning his first date with Nicole? It was something like "If a horse drawn carriage shows up here, my throwing up will be eternal."

[secret life]

Originally Posted by TheJSW (View Post) Liane, who cares if she hangs on to her job? What does that matter? If she's freaking out on the time. This daft woman does not want to choose love. She can go take a short walk off a long pier. This is not heroine material. This is total loser material. Rory Gilmore wants a job more than love. So she can go **** off. ETA: Logan is too pretty to be with one woman! Let the guys who are not SUPER PRETTY have dames! That's SQUARSIES right there!

(If Sandy were here, she would have given us a big, fat, I TOLD YOU SO.)

Rory waffles about her career and love. She need not have chosen career over love. Except that these %^%((*$ writers have opted to have Logan propose, thereby painting Rory into a corner, so to speak. The choice need not have been there at all. I'm certain Rory loves Logan. But they had to make her choose one over the other.

Er Jason, you could be sporting that Logan avi right about now you know...

[notoutforawalk]

Jason, is that a Milo icon?

[TheJSW]

Look; if Heroes was not super ****ing awesome right now. I would be even more pissed off about this show. SO yeah, that's Milo, and I am a Milo fan. Peter Petrelli rules. Period. I do like Matt better. If that makes you happy.

Liane, no, they need not paint Rory into a corner. However, it's obvious to me, that Rory does not love Logan. She's too ignorant to what love is and she's 22. She's young and stupid, and Logan deserves better than he's getting.

This is why I hope Logan walks away from her forever. Yeah, they should be getting married in 22, and Logan should be in that episode. However, putting Logan back with that twit, diminishes Logan in my eyes. He deserves better than her. It's that simple. You get one choice. If you are so indecisive and pathetic, that you freak out when having to make that choice. You reap what you sow. Rory built this house. Now she get's to feel the pain. May Logan find a nice, loving, and supportive alterna woman in San Francisco.

ETA: In my anger at this storyline and Rory's current bout of asshatery. I totally shut down the part of my mind that makes pop-culture comparisons. After a moment of clarity, I have realized something about this storyline. It's the GILMORE GIRLS version of SAY ANYTHING. It's not really about whose Lloyd or Diane in this situation, but the story of SAY ANYTHING itself. Where a guy loves a gal, the gal loves the guy, but eventually the gal has a FREAK OUT about her FUTURE. Only later to the discover she made the wrong choice, and goes to guy apologizing for not picking him. The guy -- who could easily be a dick about this situation -- deciding to accpet her love over her bull****.

While I am really pissed at Rory going down this road, and the writers taking her down this road. A SAY ANYTHING SITUATION could be something that works for this show. I do feel that the act of contrition Rory would have to do for Logan would be ginormous. However, if she loves him and truly means it, then I guess that's all that counts really. Not everything is about winning. No matter how hard I try to cram that round peg into a square hole.

Nevertheless, Rory is going to freak out, Rory is going to be hurt, and hopefully she will go after Logan next season. If not, then, these writers obviously have not seen Say Anything, and need to right away. Since it would seem that Lloyd Dobler-----> is our only hope.

[Kejt]

Thanks for the clips Blaab.
I never write anything here, just download the clips & read what you guys write

[TheJSW]

Well Kejt, welcome to the wonderful world of POSTING! !

[GEORGEIII]

Originally Posted by catkirk7 (View Post) Seriously. WTF? Does DSR realize that RORY is supposed to be the heroine and have it all?

Yep. Judging from the 7.20 promo, Rory apparently gets turned down on all her applications; so by the end of 7.21, Paris apparently has "everything", all the job offers and her guy, and Rory has nothing, except her diploma. Then, in 7.22, she gets that unexpected, last minute offer from an online magazine...(maybe Logan, in one last "Grand Gesture", knowing Rory was freaking out over not having job prospects, called his friend Hugo offscreen?)

[GEORGEIII]

Originally Posted by secret life (View Post) Doyle was the one who was ready to drop everything to be with Paris. Honestly? I don't want to see Logan do that. I think it's right that after Rory telling him no, he walks away. Let her figure things out by herself (and pine away).

The proposal is gonna play OOC; no way in heck would Logan propose if he knew Rory was freaking out over job prospects...especially after what he told her in 7.18.

I'm afraid Logan dropping everything to be with Rory is exactly how these writers will play it (assuming season 8 is not a pipedream and Matt will be in it.) Isn't that basically what they showed us visually in the maze in 7.18? (they separate, Rory starts along the right path alone, but then Logan follows her and takes her hand.)

[TheJSW]

But Logan is again LOGAN HUNTZBERGER. I know I do this from time to time with the male characters on this show. However, Logan going to be with Rory, is not a bad thing. It's what he does. He loves her. He will jump with her. That's how he roles.

[hearty26]

Yeah...Doyle is not going to deal with his bull****. However, I can see Logan being frustrated by Rory, and walking away. She's saying 'NO' to him out of her own selfish reasons. There's only so many times a man can handle a woman's bull****. So Logan walks away from someone who obviously does not want him the way he wants her.

I thought a while ago that this break up will be some kind of a tired Logan ... why should he fight for a woman who seemingly doesn't want him as much as he wants her ... why should he be always the one who fights ...


This promo for next weeks episode breaks my heart ... how happy Logan looks, so excited and all ... he wants to spend the rest of his life with the woman he loves and asks for permission ... oh DR that is a cruel way you go ... a really cruel way ...

I haven't seen the epi yet but from the recap I can say, I hate paris too ... abd I can't understand the fact that Paris "the selfish" Gellar will be with her one and Rory not ... but what surprise, it were always the people around the Girls getting everything ...

[gilmorebrazil]

Thanks Christine for the thread, Jason for the title and Blaab for the clips

Originally Posted by Rebeccajill (View Post) Blaab, I know Carolina and Andrea will definitely appreciate the clips.

Humpf, As much I love Lisa Weil, I'm not interested in watching this episode. Sher's PBP was enough to me.

Originally Posted by secret life (View Post) (If Sandy were here, she would have given us a big, fat, I TOLD YOU SO.)

She sure would.

Doyle was the one who was ready to drop everything to be with Paris. Honestly? I don't want to see Logan do that.

I wouldn't mind if as a coincidence, RL meet in a flight to Iowa, both with assignements from different magazines. (not gonna happen, I know)

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Here is one thing. I don't know if MC will come back in season 8 or not, but Rory can't share an apartment with Olivia and Lucy. This would be really too season 4. If Rory will be an independent woman, she can't have roomates, she should be on her own. And as for "on her own", I mean it: no mommy nor friends living under the same roof and giving her hints about how to make her decisions.