I bet we get a 15 second scene of Logan looking wistfully at a picture of him and Rory and then it flashes to Rory all alone on her adventure.

I really hope that that's not true of all men.

I hope Logan is a gentleman when the break-up happens. It doesn't make Rory evil if she thinks she's not ready to get married right now. It's very sad for him, and I get that, I just hope that the writers demonstrate just how close Rory and Logan have been for three years and make the parting moments reflect that. People grow apart from one another and split up...it's a fact of life. But I don't think that all splits are terrible...yes, they're probably really tough for the first few days (more depending on how long the relationship lasted), but I would love the sense of composure between L/R in the scene to reflect that they DO care for one another, even if they're not together. Even if Rory's feelings have changed a little bit, I want the essense to stay there. I don't want Rory to be made to look like a terrible person and I dont' want Logan to either. I think it's possible.
What are you talking about? This is more of a fantasy than LOTR, HARRY POTTER, and COCOON combined. Seriously, this is in no way reflective, of the relationship that Logan and Rory had or will have. Again, this is the love of Logan's life, and you expect him to act GROWN-UP ABOUT IT? SHE SAYS, NO! When a person says no. That's it between you and them. There's no more love. There's no more US. It's seynora baby! Have a good life and **** off! You are taking a relationship written in the stars and acting like it was written on a Denny's menu. You may like Rory and Logan, but you in no way get the essence of the relationship. Especially with these comments.

ETA:
Perhaps she didn't know that Logan was thinking about marriage all this time. But I'm sure that when the opportunity occurs when he asks her, she will be honest with him. I hope. I hope she tells him "I'm not ready to get married."
And although they have had a great 3 years, I don't think that means that she has to be ready for marriage when Logan is. I think that's essentially the complication between Rory and Logan, rather than any of Lorelai's relationship faults. I think Rory has been great as a romantic partner for Logan. But I think it's just that, at this point in her life, the two of them are not on the same wavelength. Logan's ready to settle and get married (after his college years of partying and exploring), and Rory, after settling and working hard in school, is ready to go out and explore, and not ready to settle into marriage. I think Rory would, in a few years, be open to marriage. I would hope that she was open to marriage with Logan in 5 years, but alas, I don't think that's going to happen, as breakups ARE very hard and sad and I wouldn't want Logan to feel okay 'waiting' for her after a breakup, waiting until she's done trying other options, dating other guys to decide she really wants him after all. WHO CARES ABOUT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW! Seriously...FIVE YEARS FROM NOW? **** Rory. Anyone defending Rory makes me wondering if you work on YOUR TERMS because I am at a lost as to how you see the world Stephanie. This makes absolutely no sense to me. No sense.

That said, I still want Logan not to hate Rory, and vice versa. He has every right to hate her with the intensity of 15 suns. She's saying NO. She's essentially saying; "Oh, you really loved me? How cute." Yeah...you really want to be with a person that does not find you GOOD ENOUGH. Sure.


I agree with the first statement. I don't think it's likely that anyone sticks around in a relationship if someone declines a proposal. (Kind of how Lorelai dumped Luke because he wasn't ready to marry her). It makes you doubt if your partner really loves you. Anyway, I dont' think it makes sense for Logan to continue dating Rory after she declines his proposal. And while I wholeheartedly agree that they cannot instantly jump into a friendship with eachother after their breakup, I hope that the breakup implies that, eventually, hard feelings will slip away and a chance at some sort of friendship is possible. Eventually being like, two years later when they bump eachother at the airport. Not that they'll be BFF or anything, but rather, friendly acquaintences who can stand being in the same room together, and once a year go out for coffee to catch up on things. Kind of like Richard and Pennylinn Lott, actually. I think that's an idea I'll stand behind.

Jasper, I see where you are coming from. However, I do not agree.

Rory did not have a stable childhood because of Lorelai. Lorelai chose to leave R/E who were willing to help her out and she cut Chris out of her and Rory's life when she left without consulting him. Sure they were not ready for marriage, but Chris was willing to step up for the sake of Rory while Lorelai could not. Even after Rory was born, Lorelai only thought of herself. She left the safety and comfort of R/E's because she couldn't take it anymore. It would have been better for Rory if they had stayed.

In regards to Lorelai sacrificing her pride, I don't agree 100% with your post. Sure she sacrificed her pride to ask for money, but it wouldn't have been such a big deal if she hadn't cut her parents out of her life completely. R/E loved both her and Rory and she cut off ties with them for her own personal motivation. IMO, Rory would have had a better childhood if she had not been so isolated from her father and grandparents.

As for Lorelai doing pretty good considering she was alone, ok. But the problem I have is that she chose to do it alone. She did not want to accept help and actually balked at assistance. Everyone could have done more for Rory, but the fact remains that Lorelai, as her mother, should have made decisions that were in the best interest of Rory and not herself.

Finally, I agree that Rory has learned something since her relationship with Logan is stabler than any of Lorelai's relationship. However, I don't feel Logan is as at fault as Rory for their communication issues. In season 6 Logan should have talked to Rory before assuming they were broken up, but Rory is more at fault IMO. If I refused to leave with my boyfriend and did not call him for weeks, I would have assumed we were broken up as well. Therefore, I don't really consider him at fault for that. Sure he could have told her about the bridesmaids, but he had good intentions. After BR, Logan knew something was wrong and asked and tried to get Rory to talk, but Rory stymied his efforts. As for the London debacle, Logan didn't tell Rory because he thought he could get out of it and he did not want to do it. When you say it out loud, it is more real, and that is not what he wanted.

Additionally, after his business failure he couldn't face telling her. I mean after years of being a disappointment, you have someone who is proud of you. Do you really shatter that illusion by admitting your colossal mistake? Probably not. The mature thing would have been to talk about it and make decisions together, but I understand why he did what he did. The thing is that Logan is the one always running after Rory and compromising, which is unfair. Also, I never said that Logan was perfect. They both have issues. However, I think Rory's issues are more fatal to a relationship than Logan's.

Finally, we will see how it plays out! However, if R/L part for good, I no longer care about GG and will work on divesting myself of my dvds.

Richard and Emily may have loved their daughter, and was helping her. But it's not like they were happy. Now, what parent would be happy their 16 year old daughter is pregnant and gives birth. And I totally give their feeling of disappointment. But Lorelai was a teenager. And teenagers don't act logically.

I'm glad Jared got out when he could, and Milo had the brains to say no before they butchered him too. Hopefully, Matt will come out swingin' as the other Ex Gilmore Guys have.