Spoilers - GG R/L SS #262: For DSR, Inconsistency is the New Black - Page 2

Jasper1975 · 03-30-2007, 02:30 PM

But at the heart of it. Lorelai is Rory's mother. She's going to want the best for her child. That goes for men too. For all we know, Logan deserves the worries. Or in the end, he does something to impress Lorelai and there ends her doubts. And in the end, it's up to Rory to decide whether to marry him. And she makes her own mind and it has nothing to do with her mother.

Lorelai has done some rash things. Like run away with her baby as a teenager and start over, from scratch. And numerous things since.

But because she did rash things in her past, doesn't mean she needs to blanket accept Logan. And she can't worry for her daughter, if she feels something is wrong with her daughter's relationship.

But we really don't know...until we see it on screen!

katiediaz · 03-30-2007, 02:36 PM

Thanks for the spoiler Nicolalala. My guess is that somewhere in their conversation, Logan might say something that makes Lorelai think he's not very responsible. Not that it makes any sense

. If Rory takes that job offer in Providence, and Logan does indeed sign up for the SFC, either one refusing to go with the other could be why they break up.

GEORGEIII · 03-30-2007, 02:44 PM

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7.18 info:

Rory gets a job offer. Logan spends time at Lorelai's house, and he and Lorelai talk.

Many thanks for the spoiler!

Although if you could find out a spoiler about Logan being in 7.22, I would be much more grateful. Heh.

The job offer must be the Providence thing.

See, I knew this scene was going to happen the second I heard the Logan in Stars Hollow spoiler. This is probably while Rory is off interviewing, and here very possibly is where Lorelai finds out just how serious Logan is about Rory; shortly after Rory comes back on the train, we'll get the "I glad you're getting to know him" exchange. Lorelai says that she's "glad too", but for all we know she expresses worries to someone else, and not to Rory directly. Or it could be that the ep description is wrong (it is not like episode descriptions haven't been wrong before, of course.)

Dunno why the writers are even bothering to show this now, given the crushing end they are planning for poor, self-deluded Logan.

GEORGEIII · 03-30-2007, 02:50 PM

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Or in the end, he does something to impress Lorelai and there ends her doubts.

Honestly, if DSR is planning to do in 7.21 what I think he's gonna do, I hope this doesn't come to pass...If he indeed is Super Logan again in this ep (and with the description of him being nice and kind to the little boy in sides it might be that he is) it will make his end in 7.21 all the more crushing and pathetic...

Among the worst things that could happen to a guy, a "no" during a proposal is right up there in the list.

lancer1993 · 03-30-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicolalala (View Post)

7.18 info:

Rory gets a job offer. Logan spends time at Lorelai's house, and he and Lorelai talk.

Thanks for that,

I was about the say Lorelai might be thinking of his past and the business mess, but changes her mind, the sides said Rory was please they were getting along.

So where does Logan sleep? I'm sure Lorelai would be okay but maybe Rory not so much, maybe the trundle bed they got for April LOL

TheJSW · 03-30-2007, 03:09 PM

George, I could have sworn you and I had a conversation about something. Huh. I guess not. Nevertheless, thanks Linny, and while I am over titles. I do like that one...a lot.

Look; if you are a fan of Lorelai. Go to the FAN OF LORELAI THREAD. In here, she's screwing over a vastly superiour character (yes, I am coming across ungodly pompus, but it's a fair point. Lorelai should keep her mouth shut. Instead, she's making it all about her -- again -- and she needs a moment removed from HER...dont you think?) in all areas because LOW AND BEHOLD...he actually has FEELINGS FOR HER DAUGHTER! Lorelai is pathetic. Luke should find a nice goth girl, settle down, and flip her off everytime he sees her in the street. Nevertheless, Lorelai, is butting her head in where it does not belong. Period...exclaimation point...or question mark...BOOM!

lancer1993 · 03-30-2007, 03:22 PM

Here is a recap of the podcast posted by 2ggObsessed on the L&L thread.

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Nothing new on the podcast. We definitely know more than they do.

After MA spoiler on L/R split they got tons of mail. People are po at DR about the spilt. A fan wanted to know if DR is crazy. He gave them an entire year of R/L goodness and waited until the second last episode to split them up. Angel said she thought they had established that DR was crazy.

When DM questioned MA about his statement that the writers liked them together, he said that they could like R/L together and then decide that they don’t belong together. He doesn’t want to defend the episode because he hasn’t seen it yet. He just puts the info out.

A fan asks about what Rory will be doing after graduation and they joke around about it. MA jokingly said “looking for a new boyfriend”. He doesn’t know what Rory will be doing and says it depends on if there is an 8th season. They read Craig’s e-mail about whether Logan is going to be in the season/series final episode. MA said he didn’t know.

Another fan knocks MA/DM about patronizing a fan who wants to see LL in reality. She tells them to have a little respect.

Tara Ashley · 03-30-2007, 03:28 PM

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Instead, she's making it all about her -- again -- and she needs a moment removed from HER...dont you think?) in all areas because LOW AND BEHOLD...he actually has FEELINGS FOR HER DAUGHTER! Lorelai is pathetic.

Yep, because she is that heartless, that she wouldn't want her daughter to be happy. It is amazing how judgmental people can be about very little, very flexible information. But you're right, I'll go to the Lorelai appreciation thread.

Thank you for the thread, though, and thank you for the 7.18 information.

TheJSW · 03-30-2007, 03:36 PM

Tara, no offense, but Lorelai has never been as portrayed as you have explained her in this and other threads. Lorelai is a selfish woman. She has always been a contradiction between too giving and too controlling. Lorelai saying anything to RORY about her relationship. When Lorelai has failed more times at love than a freakin Barry Manilow song. She has no right to give any one ANY STATEMENTS about LOVE or RESPONSIBILITY. At least Luke could. He has been shown to change.

clmorrow · 03-30-2007, 03:45 PM

We don't yet know that Lorelai actually says anything directly to Rory - she may have yet another kitchen talk with Sookie where she says something.

I can't recall any time that Rory paid any attention at all to what Lorelai had to say about Logan - she's even gone so far as telling her mother not to even say a word when she told her about her and Logan being boyfriend and girlfriend. The only time was when Logan asked Lorelai for help with Rory and Lorelai wrote the letter we never heard - which seemed to convince her to go back to him though I always figured Rory was going to return to him soon anyway.

Even if Lorelai said something negative about Logan now somehow I doubt Rory would either listen or pay any attention to it.

Tara Ashley · 03-30-2007, 03:46 PM

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She has always been a contradiction between too giving and too controlling.

This she is. Pathetic, the most self-centerd person in the universe, heartless, the reason for RL's breakup? No. But I'm out.

katiediaz · 03-30-2007, 03:49 PM

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Honestly, if DSR is planning to do in 7.21 what I think he's gonna do, I hope this doesn't come to pass...If he indeed is Super Logan again in this ep (and with the description of him being nice and kind to the little boy in sides it might be that he is) it will make his end in 7.21 all the more crushing and pathetic...

Among the worst things that could happen to a guy, a "no" during a proposal is right up there in the list.

My first guess after the episode description came out is that they are going to actually try to do the opposite with him. They're going to show all of his flaws and defects, because, you know, Rory can't marry an irresponsible guy

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katiediaz · 03-30-2007, 03:55 PM

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This she is. Pathetic, the most self-centerd person in the universe, heartless, the reason for RL's breakup? No. But I'm out.

When did anyone state she was? She's definitely not heartless. I don't remember anyone calling her, or describing her as that. Her expressing that she thinks Logan is irresponsible doesn't make her the reason for their break up. It does however show how she likes to point out other people's shortcoming when she should be working on her own. And she is self-centered. See my previous sentence. Not THE most self-centered, but self centered none the less. Is she pathetic? I wouldn't go on and call her pathetic, but she's had her pathetic moments. Haven't we all? Aren't we all human? Everyone goes through at least a few pathetic moments in their lifetime.

La Linn · 03-30-2007, 03:57 PM

From Lorelaisgirl

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TV GUIDE PODCAST MARCH 30, 2007

DM = Daniel Manu
MA = Michael Ausiello
AC = Angel Cohn
MMcD = Maitland McDonagh

START 25.55

DM: And Mike, we got a ton of mail about Gilmore Girls---
MA: Uhoh.
DM: ---because you had a tiny bit of scoop in your vodcast.
AC: Just a tiny bit.
DM: About, about---
MA: Yeah, we don’t wanna say it, do we? Because we planted that behind a spoiler warning.
DM: Oh no, it’s out there, it’s out there.
AC: Spoiler-alert?!
DM: Every Gilmore fan in the universe has now heard the news that you broke in your vodcast about Logan and Rory. And people are a little P.O.’d. A little P.O.’d, let’s just say. Kate says: “Is Dave Rosenthal crazy?”
AC: I thought we had established that?
DM: “An entire year of Rory and Logan---“ that’s true. I think Heidi Klum established that. “An entire year of Rory and Logan-goodness and now he pulls a split in the second-to-last episode of the series. Does he know how many fans are pissed at him right now? And you said the writers liked them together, what happened with that?”
MA: They could like them together and ultimately decide that they don’t maybe belong together. I don’t know. I don’t wanna defend a story that I haven’t seen play out.
DM: Right.
MA: I just put the information out there to let people---
AC: He does not want to pre-judge.
MA: Yes.
AC: Ever.
MA: Or judge at all.
AC: Right.
MMcD: You poor thing.
AC: He’s very non-judgmental. Straight down the middle.
DM: And Christine wants to know if you have any information about what Rory is gonna be doing after graduation. “Will they be telling, will they be announce where--- “
MA: Looking for a new boyfriend.
DM: ---well that too. Well, “Will she be going to Hartford, New York, Iraq to report for CNN with Christiane Amanpour?” Anything, Mike.
MA: Uhm.
MMcD: Is she gonna work at a wellness-center?
DM: Let’s just say, hope she doesn’t go to Hartford, because, believe me folks, no offence, I’m from somewhere out there, you don’t wanna go there. You don’t wanna go there.
MA: I don’t have any information for what she’s doing after. I think a lot of that depends on whether there’s an eight season or not.
DM: Craig Best in his weekly Gilmore-email says, “will Logan be in the final episode of the series?”
MA: Uhm---
DM: Or season, or season.
MA: I don’t know. That’s a simple answer, there.
DM: And someone took us---
AC: I like that answer. I don’t know.
DM: And Stephanie from Ontario took us to task, when I say ‘us’ she means ‘me’, for patronizing that girl who wanted the Luke and Lorelai together in “reality”. And she thought… she funnily says “don’t mean it patronizing, cuz people really care and get emotionally involved even though the story is fiction, you get a little fame and your egos sky-rocket.” I don’t know who she’s referring to here.
AC: Fame?
MA: Well, obviously, me.
DM: Maybe you, maybe you.
AC: Probably you.
DM: Maybe you. “Have a little respect, please”, she says.

END 28.30

catkirk7 · 03-30-2007, 04:01 PM

Oy. They ask my question when I don't care anymore AND they misquote me. Unless some other Christine asked almost the exact same question.

I did call Lorelai the most self-centered person ever and I'm sticking to it. It is certainly not bases solely on the episode description.