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Old 03-31-2007, 08:43 PM
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God, DR maybe found out there is another season and said lets mess up R/L following Amys fashion because he figured that an entire season with a major functional couple makes boring t.v. This is just a theory to understand this inconsistent spoiler
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Old 03-31-2007, 11:02 PM
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By the time you get to a 7th or 8th season you don't need "Drama" in the relationships. You need long time couples to function well together and deal with life as a unit. All "Drama" does at this point is make people hate the main characters.
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Old 03-31-2007, 11:57 PM
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By the time you get to a 7th or 8th season you don't need "Drama" in the relationships. You need long time couples to function well together and deal with life as a unit. All "Drama" does at this point is make people hate the main characters.
Boy, isn't that the truth.
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Old 04-01-2007, 12:33 AM
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I have no problems with Rory and Logan not getting married. In fact, I think it is too soon for them take that step.
I agree. I don't think Rory or Logan are ready for that yet. Some people are but I don't think they are.
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See, that's exactly what any typical guy would think. What really gets me is that DSR is a guy; so he should know exactly what would go through a guy's mind at that moment, which would be some variation of: "she never really loved me".
Yes, DSR should know. He must really hate Logan for that to be the ending he wants for him.

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I had a dream about R/L last night, that ties into the recent spoilers and this season. So many of you guys have said how this season has showed R/L's relationship in such a positive light, how they were moving forward romantically and how out of the blue this rejection is.

Re-watching the episodes of this season, I'd notice 'hints' that I didn't notice before signalling that Rory didn't love Logan enough for a future with him...But obviously, these 'rewatches' weren't what actually happened in the episodes we saw, thank goodness. And it painted Rory in the really terrible light. Examples... It was episode 7.05 (in my dream), and Logan was leaving to go back to London...they share a long goodbye because Rory can't stop giving him a last kiss goodbye, and neither can he...very cute and loving. Logan says something about the future (hinting he is ready for marriage) and Rory, instead of responding, sucks his face to avoid the topic. Then Logan says "I love you Rory" and Rory says... "I'm in love with you, I think" Logan gets pissed..."You think you love me?" Rory tries to defend herself...and he leaves.
Interesting dream. Instead what we got in 705 is this:

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RORY: Yes, adorable.

LOGAN: Wow, you want me to go back there and kick her ass?

RORY: "Adorable" is what you say about a "full house" rerun. It's not what you say about something that lasts. The great wall of china, the pyramids -- no one ever called them "adorable."
Sounds very much like a girl who's thinking long term. Too bad DSR suddenly decided to make them nothing more than that Full House rerun.

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'Cause the writers wrote them as such a strong couple that they thought the only "credible" and "believable" way of breaking them up was this cruel travesty?

'Cause Rory never really loved Logan?

'Cause Rory thinks that Logan is not good enough to get married to?

'Cause Logan always loved Rory more that she ever loved him?

'Cause DSR hates Sophies? (Since this is the WORST possible ending they could give this ship.)

'Cause, after two and a half years, all of a sudden (since 7.17), Rory hates Logan's "grand gestures"?

'Cause he didn't propose "on her terms"?

'Cause Logan thought Rory was his "one", while Rory thought Logan was her "college experience"?

'Cause DSR got amnesia and forgot all about the "True Love" of 7.01?

'Cause Rory forgot all about the angst and love she felt in Partings?

All of the above?
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Does Rory know anything about romantic relationships? I think how she responds to Logan's proposal will show that. And I actually think, how she handles that might show whether she's more mature than her mom. If she's really not ready for marriage, she'd be unwise to say yes. Because saying yes without being ready would be similar to what Lorelai did in Paris. I don't know what implications that would have for Logan. I do think he'd be crushed. But dating someone and committing to them for life are two different things, and if Logan is ready for lifelong commitment and Rory isn't, then maybe they shouldn't be together. On the other hand, if Logan is just proposing impulsively, it would be nice to think that Rory could recognize that and tell him she's not ready but neither is he, really, and her no is only a "not yet."
I think you're missing the point. If Rory had been written as having doubts all this time, then yes, absolutely she should turn down the proposal. But that's not how she's been written this season. Think about the glee on that girl's face when she figured out what the rocket meant. Think about the talk of belonging to each other. Think of every frakkin scene with these two prior to the last episode. But suddenly she's not ready for a lifelong commitment.

They aren't simply dating. They lived together. They cared enough about the relationship to make it work despite living on different continents. You don't put yourself through the hell of a long distance relationship if you're not thinking long term.

Logan isn't proposing impulsively. I think it's clear by his actions all season long that he's been thinking about this. And you don't have white horses and a carriage if you're proposing on impulse.

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It almost feels like I'm talking about the wrong show...this is the same R/L we've been watching for THREE seasons now right??!!! I didn't fall into some sort of worm hole where Logan has always been an asshat did I?????
Yes, that would be the wormhole known as DSR's brain. What a sad and lonely place it must be.

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Why would the writers want to leave viewers with a final image of Rory sad because she's just lost a longtime boyfriend? Unless, as people have said, it's to give the message that it's fine to be single...making Rory the new, young Lorelai?
That won't be our final image of Rory. Our final image of Rory will be her meeting her idol and starting her new job. We probably won't see any sign of regret or her missing Logan because she'll be too wrapped up in herself to give a damn. The new, young Lorelai indeed.

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By the time you get to a 7th or 8th season you don't need "Drama" in the relationships. You need long time couples to function well together and deal with life as a unit. All "Drama" does at this point is make people hate the main characters.
Very true. Too bad you're not in charge of the show.
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Old 04-01-2007, 12:56 AM
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WTF????!!!!!! DID I MISS THIS SOMEWHERE.... please say it ain't so!!!!!!! Although with what else has been spoiled so far this is quite the possibility to kick all sophies while they're down!!! FRAK FRAK FRAK FRAK FRAK!!!!!!
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Old 04-01-2007, 01:04 AM
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I doubt DSR will every say why he has done this but who bets if he did it will first be "for the drama" but also he had/has a plan for it to be resolved in S8, so putting the blame elsewhere.

Why not have 2 endings, one if this is it and one for S8, which seems to be the plan with L&L. So shoot one end with Logan and Rory coming together in the end of the last ep, maybe no to get married or engaged but "I was stupid" "no I was" they kiss and make up. So giving the fans hope that in their minds they end the series together and maybe moving off to SF to live and start a new live together?
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Old 04-01-2007, 01:23 AM
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I like that idea Craig.
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Old 04-01-2007, 01:32 AM
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If Rory had been written as having doubts all this time, then yes, absolutely she should turn down the proposal. But that's not how she's been written this season. Think about the glee on that girl's face when she figured out what the rocket meant. Think about the talk of belonging to each other. Think of every frakkin scene with these two prior to the last episode. But suddenly she's not ready for a lifelong commitment.

They aren't simply dating. They lived together. They cared enough about the relationship to make it work despite living on different continents. You don't put yourself through the hell of a long distance relationship if you're not thinking long term.

I think it's clear by his actions all season long that he's been thinking about this. And you don't have white horses and a carriage if you're proposing on impulse
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I concur. A year and a half ago, this girl was uttering phrases like "maybe this is the one"...a woman does not say something like this about someone they have not been thinking about possibly being long term... Why the heck bother to sustain the relationship through Partings and London if you're not thinking long term? Why the heck talk about "relationships that last" if you're not thinking long term? Why the heck talk about so-called "True Love" if you're not thinking long term?

Too bad the writers decided to send everything into the trash heap.

And fans of the couple can go screw themselves.
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Old 04-01-2007, 01:42 AM
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So shoot one end with Logan and Rory coming together in the end of the last ep, maybe no to get married or engaged but "I was stupid" "no I was" they kiss and make up. So giving the fans hope that in their minds they end the series together and maybe moving off to SF to live and start a new live together?
Nice thought, but rather I think the writers will show a Rory moving on and getting ready to start her "career phase". Logan Who? "A mere college experience." Honestly, if I was in Logan's shoes, I would not want to see the girl that got angry when I proposed to her ever again in my life.

By 7.22, fans of the couple will have been tossed aside in the trash bin of History; just like Logan.
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Old 04-01-2007, 01:48 AM
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We only got sides for HBM so maybe something happens after that ep to explain the no from Rory?

We have nothing for either of then in IJLRA, for L?L? we have Rory in SH and maybe no Logan in the ep. Then 21 we have graduation and proposal.

We are missing a lot of detail right now on those eps in the middle which may explain evens in ep 21.
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Old 04-01-2007, 05:04 AM
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I think that the next episode will shed some light on the whole situation. As the episode description says:

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She is obviously going to be giving her future a lot of thought. I have to see it play out and/or get more information before I condemn Rory. Whether or not Logan hates Rory for her decision depends upon her reasons for her decision IMO. I would rather someone be honest with me than agree to marry me and then leave me when we're about to get married, which I have seen happen to a number of people. Rory has learned from her mom's mistakes (and her own) that being honest is important. Maybe she is just trying to be honest.

I have honestly seen a mixture this year of things going great for them and not so great for them over the season. There have been a lot of anvils flying in both directions, marriage and break-up. We have to see how the writers will play it out. I think that they are going to be together in the end, but that this is something for drama to fill up season 8.
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Old 04-01-2007, 05:27 AM
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There have been a lot of anvils flying in both directions, marriage and break-up.
Maybe I was too blind to see it ... but which anvils do you mean according to the breal-up thing? The only one I've seen is Emilys comment about Rory being a heartbreaker ...


And of course my feeling that it goes too smooth for them ...
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Old 04-01-2007, 05:32 AM
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I have always believed on this show that anytime something is referred to as being "perfect", it is about to be destroyed. Too many times people commented that Logan was a great guy (paraphrasing). I also took Paris' comment about Logan and Doyle being broken as an anvil. When the writers start writing lines where everything is perfect or wonderful, they are sending out messages that they are going to screw it up. JMO
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Old 04-01-2007, 05:43 AM
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Yeah ... 7.14 was the episode when I thought: OMG, it's to easy .. they are to happy together and that's not GG like ... I knew that something will happen but I never thought (not even in my nightmares) that they will crush Logan like that, that they will end up this perfect couple in the way they seemed to do it ...

It's so cruel ... I mean, when they decided 'ok, they aren't meant to be after all' fine but why at the end, why after an amazing season? They could have done it earlier they had time for but now, it's only ridiculos
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