Telepath

Honestly when I'm watching that interview video with Kit, Sophie and Liam my reaction is sort of, "do they really act in the same show that we watch?"

Because Sophie talks about how Jon hasn't "acknowledged" her contribution... when he does so explicitely in the episode, saying she is the Lady of Winterfell and how if the Vale knights hadn't arrived they would have lost. When she's acting out the scene of him being crowned and she's smiling at him and this smile only turns into a look of worry as she watches Petyr.

The other thing is how Kit talks about Jon Snow being so naive, and how he hasn't "learned anything." I think this is a general problem the show has - if Jon is such an idiot, why does anyone want to follow him?

Then he says that it's stupid to ask Sansa to trust him when he doesn't listen to her. This doesn't really make sense. If nothing else Jon is being absolutely honest to Sansa, but Sansa lies to Jon. It's also hard for Jon to "listen to" Sansa when Sansa doesn't tell him all she knows. Finally Sansa is acting all pîssy after the war council because "you didn't ask me what I thought" - newsflash, nobody asked what anyone thought. People spoke when they had something to say. You don't get to blame your failure to communicate on your brother. Of course, Jon acted like a moron with the whole Rickon situation, but that was a very emotional moment and that's the only time he's ignored her council. Jon doesn't listen to her? It was her advice that made him go to war in the first place!

All in all I just feel like they are privy to information about upcoming episodes which will make their comments seem more valid in retrospect.

NikNak

I watched last night too.

NikNak

I watched last night too.

Leelala

Completely agree with your above post telepath

Sorry I can't quote properly sitting on the bus...

scififan2009

Maybe Dany should take kings landing first, then make an alliance with Jon and Sansa in the north to fight the white walkers.

The good guys always side with each other.

Leelala

That could very well happen esp if spec are true that cersei will die by end of next season.. and S8 be all about the white Walker war..
If that's the case, what do u think Jon n co will do in the mean time? Id hope they would also play a part in the fall of cersei considering what they did to the Stark family.

GhostRaider

HBO's makinggameofthrones.com website confirms Jon's father is Rhaegar Targaryen

See the Connections Behind Ned’s Promise With This Infographic — Making Game of Thrones

Here is a link to the pic in case they take it down:

Red Dragon

That's interesting! Thanks for posting. I think casual viewers that aren't online wouldn't remember the mentions that Rhaegar has had, so they'll have to remind the audience next season.

scififan2009

I don't understand why Sansa would be resentful of Jon. He only did what she asked of him. He never wanted to be King.

Red Dragon

I wonder if it is more that she is resentful of how everyone else treats Jon with so much honor and respect and kind of dismisses her as "just a lady" (kind of like how Jaime said that "girls like her"- whatever that means - don't usually live long). This is just my speculation, but I wonder if it bothers her more that everyone dismisses her, rather than her actually resenting Jon for anything. But because Jon is the recipient of everyone's trust and admiration, he becomes some of the focus of her frustration.

Another thing I was thinking of was that Jon reminds me a lot of Ned..more than any other character. And Ned and Sansa kind of butt heads because Ned wanted to take care of Sansa and treat her as a child (which of course she was). So maybe Jon's chivalry and desire to protect and take care of her actually rubs her the wrong way because she doesn't want to be that little girl again.

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Season 7 directors announced. I'm happy to see Alan Taylor back! I'm not thrilled about Mark Mylod, I don't care for his episodes. Kind of so-so about Jeremy Podeswa...I don't love some of his episodes but I'd have to go back and rewatch, maybe it is more of a writing thing, not the directing. I'd rather see some of the directors of earlier seasons like David Nutter, Alex Graves. At least Alan Taylor is back, though. Maybe I'm just missing the writing from earlier seasons.

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NikNak

Thanks.

Telepath

Throwing it out there:

What about Daenerys and Jaime?

The Valonqar prophecy: "There comes another, younger and more beautiful, to cast you down and take all that you hold dear."

What does Cersei hold dear? Jaime.

“When your tears have drowned you, the Valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.”

If Jaime kills Cersei, this sets him apart from her sister and her madness. He has now killed two mad rulers.

Jaime is the legitimate ruler of the Westerlands. With Jon being Targaryen peace between the North and the South under Dany's rule could come easy thus making a marriage alliance unnecessary.

Discuss.

Telepath

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Red Dragon

I do think the Valonqar is Jaime. That theory is really gaining traction. With his slow turning against her, and with her potentially burning more of King's Landing next season...I think he will become a Queenslayer. Martin has also made a point of noting that Jaime was born just AFTER Cersei, so he is the younger. I hope it doesn't end up being Tyrion, because that would seem more like petty vengeance, whereas Jaime would kill her for the same reason he killed the Mad King - she is dangerous and must be put down.

As for Daenerys/Jaime...my opinion is, probably not. First off...is Cersei really even the rightful ruler? And if she died, would Jaime actually be the rightful ruler? I mean with Cersei, you could maybe say that it is because she was married to Robert (and I'm still not sure that that really works). With Joff and Tommen, they were only crowned because they were thought to be sons of Robert. The "rightful line" at the moment is still considered to be Baratheon. So it would suddenly just switch to Lannister with Jaime? I don't see Jaime wanting a role like that. I really think it will either be Jon for Daenerys, or maybe no one? I don't know. I don't know where Jaime's story is going. I'm afraid it might end in his death. But there is a little part of me deep down that is hoping for a happily ever after, away from all the drama at King's Landing, for Jaime/Brienne. As unlikely as that is. I like living in denial.

Telepath

No, no, no. Even if Daenerys claims the Iron Throne (which is put in question by a vision in the book) Jaime still rules the Westerlands and Casterly Rock. That was my point, not some scenario where he would be a claimant to the throne, because he never will be.