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The Flash S&S #24: Goodbye & good luck to Rick! Big welcome to Shantel & Teddy (still waiting for pics of Jay's suit)!
ϟThe Flash ϟ Barry Allen was just 11 years old when his mother was killed in a bizarre and terrifying incident and his father was falsely convicted of the murder. With his life changed forever by the tragedy, Barry was taken in and raised by Detective Joe West, the father of Barry’s best friend, Iris. Now, Barry has become a brilliant, driven and endearingly geeky CSI investigator, whose determination to uncover the truth about his mother’s strange death leads him to follow up on every unexplained urban legend and scientific advancement that comes along. ϟ CAST ϟ CREW ϟ UPCOMING EPISODES ϟ SEASON TWO NEWS/SPOILERS ϟ SET PHOTOS, CANDIDS, and VIDEOS ϟ PAST THREADS __________________
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Np.
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so what do we know about jay other than his supreme hotness? __________________
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Nothing really. Not even filming pics.
There's debate about whether he's the "John Clark" from the casting vids, but that still makes zero sense so I kinda doubt it. And Geoff did say there's gonna be a lot of new characters in s2. __________________
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Wow. So Eddie is really gone. Too bad.
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I'm still disappointed they gave him the name "Thawne", but didn't do a "good guy turned bad" origin story, or connect it to part of the reason Future!Thawne (Eobard) had such a grudge against Barry. __________________
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From the previous thread...
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Given that, well, it makes more sense that they haven't moved him over to LoT, even if they have no intention of killing him off in the immediate future. If the entire story they had in mind for this character centers around Caitlin (and, for all we know, her story in S2 revolves around him) and she's NOT moving over to LoT either - which she isn't...well...You have two choices. You either keep him on the Flash, around the character who is at the very fundamental heart of his story and vice versa. And you find a way to justify the ability to do so (which, in a show about comics, is hardly impossible). Or you move him over and try to find a way to keep the other character's presence a big part of a show they aren't even on, just so the audience doesn't forget about them in the hopes the audience will still care when that payoff finally comes. Which may not happen for another season or so. So...longing looks at naked pictures of the other person, regular whining monologues, etc. And there is only so long you can do that before the audience just doesn't care. Or actively hates the story you're trying to tell because it's not able to be told well that way. Plus, you then have to deal with possibly truncating the story you even wanted to build to, depending how much you can cross the two characters over, in the end. Which involves figuring out shooting schedules and the like and...all in all, it's WAY more a pain in the ass than it needs to be. So, yeah, he could have not moved to LoT because he's going to die. Or it could be because his story has from its inception revolved around Caitlin and so they wanted to keep those two characters together on the same show in order to actually tell that story. Quote:
I don't see Westallen fans getting worried at all about Snowbarry at present, because the narrative didn't really go in a place to give them cause to be at this point. Let's be honest, if they wanted, they could have Caitlin in the kind of role Patty is in this year. They could have had her resolve after Crazy for You to find someone new to be crazy about. After the kiss, she could have been conflicted and she and Ronnie could have decided to take a break from the relationship to see what they want now, after so much has happened. They could have removed any knowledge of his future marriage to Iris and had him decide that, although he loves her, he missed his chance with her and respects that she's with Eddie, so he's trying to move on (more seriously than he did with Linda). As he moves from Iris and Caitlin from Ronnie, they grow closer until they decide to give it a shot before Eddie's death. Then, S2 has him and Caitlin together while Iris recovers from Eddie and Ronnie does his thing, and they resolve it however they want (likely by them both eventually realizing they love each other but love the others more or something and so whatever). They could have down something like that. And then at least one group of fans would be looking forward to the shop this season! But since they did the opposite and had Caitlin marry her fiancé while repeatedly and overtly making it clear their intentions for Westallen, I just don't see people as worried about it. Even with Batty, Westallen fans are more worried about a crap story that makes no sense and sidelines Westallen scenes and/or gives us more terrible writing for female characters than I see people worried it's at all going to change endgame. Last edited by Jade4813; 07-22-2015 at 05:49 AM |
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^This.
I'm a sucker for the "love conquers all" storylines (to an extent... ). If they kill Ronnie off, who's going to bring her back once she's over the edge? The only way I could see them doing this storyline without Ronnie is if they copy the Dark!Willow story in Buffy: The Vampire Slayer -- Willow turned dark when her girlfriend (Tara) was murdered, and Xander (Willow's BFF) was the only one who could bring her back from the brink -- In The Flash's case, Cisco may be the only one who can do that if Ronnie is dead, since they made a point of showing us how close those two were in Season 1 (and I don't mean in a 'shippy' way, just in a BFF way). I mean... Cisco did say something along the lines of how he'd always be there to save her back when Captain Cold/Heatwave kidnapped her in Season 1. That could have been foreshadowing I would still prefer something else be the reason for her KF turn though, and Ronnie be the one to pull her back from the "dark side". __________________
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Thanks for the new thread.
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In regards to SB, I think the writers realized early on that Grant and DP didn't have chemistry, since they were cutting a lot of their scenes out of 1A (according to DP). By mid season they must've already given up on SB being a serious possibility, cause that's when the cheap baiting started. 1.07 for example had decent SB moments that could be foundation building for a future ship, but also made sense in the larger scope of the show. 1.12/19 on the other hand, not so much. Anyway, I think people's questions about Robbie's availability gets clouded by the fact that they forget Caitlin isn't a lead. She's just a supporting regular. Her character focus should be limited compared to Iris/Barry. Whatever becomes of her KF, Ronnie shouldn't have to be there for more than a handful eps/season. __________________
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