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scorpio_chick 04-18-2015 04:43 PM

The Flash S&S #17: "I've been having these dreams. But they don't really feel like dreams. They feel real." - Cisco
 
ϟThe Flash ϟ

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Barry Allen was just 11 years old when his mother was killed in a bizarre and terrifying incident and his father was falsely convicted of the murder. With his life changed forever by the tragedy, Barry was taken in and raised by Detective Joe West, the father of Barry’s best friend, Iris. Now, Barry has become a brilliant, driven and endearingly geeky CSI investigator, whose determination to uncover the truth about his mother’s strange death leads him to follow up on every unexplained urban legend and scientific advancement that comes along.

Barry’s latest obsession is a cutting edge particle accelerator, created by visionary physicist Harrison Wells and his STAR Labs team, who claim that this invention will bring about unimaginable advancements in power and medicine. However, something goes horribly wrong during the public unveiling, and when the devastating explosion causes a freak storm, many lives are lost and Barry is struck by lightning. After nine months in a coma, Barry awakens to find his life has changed once again – the accident has given him the power of super speed, granting him the ability to move through Central City like an unseen guardian angel.

Barry has always had the heart of a hero and now he has the legs to match, but he quickly learns that being a superhero is not as easy as it seems -- and he can’t do it alone. While Barry struggles to understand his new abilities, the people around him also have to adjust to a new reality. Joe West, Barry’s surrogate father, is coming to grips with the fact that the world of the extraordinary actually does exist. Joe thought he understood what it meant to chase criminals, but now he’s facing opponents who can do more than just rob a bank, they can control the weather. Though he knows this remarkable turn of events is Barry’s destiny, every time Barry faces danger, Joe is terrified for his surrogate son. While Joe worries about Barry, Barry worries about Joe’s daughter Iris, and how his new life as The Flash will change their relationship. Iris and Barry grew up together, and she has always believed in Barry’s conviction that unknown forces were at work the night his mother was killed. Barry has kept his romantic feelings for Iris hidden, and now feels he must protect her by keeping his new identity a secret as well. And Iris has a secret of her own -- she has been dating her father’s partner, Detective Eddie Thawne, who is such a good guy, even Barry finds it hard to hate him. Still, there is tension between Barry and Thawne, who is jealous of Iris’ newfound fascination with The Flash and is determined to unmask him. Barry realizes that keeping the secret of his new identity separates him from Iris, even as her growing obsession with uncovering the truth brings her ever closer to The Flash.

Barry has found another kind of surrogate family in the team at Harrison Wells’ S.T.A.R. Labs. Wells himself is quickly becoming a second father figure to Barry, who learned about morality and justice from Joe, and is now learning about science and technology from Wells. Wells’ ultimate agenda remains somewhat mysterious, but Barry is excited by the grander worldview that has been opened for him, and the friendship he’s building with S.T.A.R. lab team members Caitlin Snow and Cisco Ramon. For Caitlin, who lost her fiancé in the catastrophic explosion, working with Barry is providing a much- needed sense of purpose and a way to deal with her grief. Caitlin’s excitement at seeing Barry learn to use his new power is balanced by her growing concern for his safety – she and Cisco have both learned that accidents have devastating consequences. Cisco was a close friend of Caitlin’s fiancé and secretly blames himself for the tragedy. A mechanical genius who comes up with amazing gadgets that help Barry control his speed, Cisco is happy to suddenly have a new project –- and a new friend –- in Barry.

While he struggles to combine these two very different groups of people into a crime-fighting unit, Barry is still excited every day by his newfound powers. He is also shocked to discover he is not the only “meta-human” created in the wake of the accelerator explosion – and not everyone is using the new powers for good. In the months since the accident, the city has seen a sharp increase in missing people, unexplained deaths and other strange phenomena. Barry now has a renewed purpose – using his gift of speed to protect the innocent, while never giving up on his quest to solve his mother’s murder and clear his father’s name. For now, only a few close friends and associates know that Barry is literally the fastest man alive, but it won’t be long before the world learns what Barry Allen has become…The Flash.

The series stars Grant Gustin (“Glee,” “Arrow”) as Barry Allen/The Flash, Candice Patton (“The Game”) as Iris West, Rick Cosnett (“The Vampire Diaries”) as Eddie Thawne, Danielle Panabaker (“Necessary Roughness,” “Justified”) as Caitlin Snow, Carlos Valdes (“Once” on Broadway ) as Cisco Ramon, with Tom Cavanagh (“Ed,” “Eli Stone”) as Harrison Wells and Jesse L. Martin (“Law & Order”) as Detective West. THE FLASH is produced by Bonanza Productions Inc. in association with Berlanti Productions and Warner Bros. Television, with executive producers Greg Berlanti (“Arrow,” “The Tomorrow People,” “Green Lantern”), Andrew Kreisberg (“Arrow,” “Eli Stone”), David Nutter (“Arrow,” “Game of Thrones”) and Sarah Schechter. The pilot was directed by David Nutter. This series is based upon characters published by DC Entertainment.









ϟ CAST

Grant Gustin as Barry Allen

Candice Patton as Iris West

Rick Cosnett as Eddie Thawne

Danielle Panabaker as Caitlin Snow

Carlos Valdes as Cisco Ramon

Tom Cavanagh as Harrison Wells

Jesse L. Martin as Detective West



ϟ CREW

Greg Berlanti

Andrew Kreisberg

Sarah Schechter

Official Twitter

Flash TV Writers




ϟ UPCOMING EPISODES







1.20 The Trap
THE TEAM SETS A TRAP FOR WELLS — Barry (Grant Gustin), Caitlin (Danielle Panabaker), Cisco (Carlos Valdes) and Joe (Jesse L. Martin) set a trap for Wells (Tom Cavanagh). Cisco uses himself as prey which puts him in grave danger. Meanwhile, Eddie (Rick Cosnett) makes a decision regarding Iris (Candice Patton), which leaves Joe a bit unsettled. Steve Shill directed the episode written by Alison Schapker & Brooke Eikmeier (#120). Original airdate 4/28/2015

1.21 Grodd Lives
GRODD RETURNS! — Barry (Grant Gustin) must deal with the Reverse Flash’s (Tom Cavanagh) latest threat to a member of the group. To make matters worse, Dr. Wells unleashes Grodd on the city in order to distract Barry and the team. Joe (Jesse L. Martin), Barry and Cisco (Carlos Valdes) head down into the sewers to catch Grodd but the gorilla quickly gets the upper hand after he kidnaps Joe. Iris (Candice Patton) and Barry have a heart to heart talk. Dermott Downs directed the episode written by Grainne Godfree & Kai Yu Wu (#121). Original airdate 5/5/2015

1.22 Rogue Air
STEPHEN AMELL, ROBBIE AMELL, WENTWORTH MILLER, LIAM MCINTYRE AND DOUG JONES GUEST STAR — As Wells (Tom Cavanagh) once again gets the upper hand on the S.T.A.R. Labs team, Barry (Grant Gustin) realizes he needs to make a big move and reaches out to an old foe, Captain Cold (guest star Wentworth Miller), for help. Joe (Jesse L. Martin) and Caitlin (Danielle Panabaker) warn Barry that Cold can’t be trusted. True to form, Cold has his own agenda that involves the meta-humans trapped in the containment cells. As things seem to be going from bad to worse, The Flash gets reinforcements – Arrow (guest star Stephen Amell) and Firestorm (guest star Robbie Amell). Doug Aarniokoski directed the episode written by Aaron Helbing & Todd Helbing (#122). Original airdate 5/12/2015.


1.23 Fast Enough



ϟ SEASON ONE NEWS/SPOILERS

CW's 'The Flash' To Do Stand-Alone Pilot Instead Of 'Arrow' Backdoor Pilot Episode - Deadline.com

TCA: CW's Mark Pedowitz Touts Pilot Model Success, "Bullish" On 'Reign' & 'Flash' - Deadline.com

Jesse L. Martin To Co-Star in CW Pilot 'The Flash'

Rick Cosnett & Danielle Panabaker Join 'Flash' Pilot On CW

Candice Patton Cast In CW Pilot 'The Flash' As Iris West

Carlos Valdes Cast In CW's 'The Flash', Elena Kampouris In NBC's 'Odyssey' - Deadline.com

Tom Cavanagh Joins CW's 'The Flash'

Original 'Flash' Star Joins CW Reboot; Todd Grinnell & Bret Ernst Cast In 'Mason Twins' - Deadline.com

Charlie Weber Cast In 'How To Get Away'; 'The Flash' Gets Mother - Deadline.com

CW's 'Flash', CBS' 'Red Zone' & ABC's Richard LaGravenese Add To Casts - Deadline.com

CW Orders Series 'Flash', 'iZombie', 'Jane The Virgin' & 'Messengers'

TCA Interview: Grant Gustin on The Flash

The Flash Casts Wentworth Miller, Plots Arrow Crossovers - Today's News: Our Take | TVGuide.com

Andrew Kreisberg Talks The Flash, Arrow, Crossover Episodes, and More

The CW's Flash: Executive Producer Andrew Kreisberg Talks About What's Coming | KSiteTV

Grant Gustin Teases The Flash Suit, A Different Barry Allen, Felicity Crossover & More - TV Fanatic

Question: Do you have any scoop on any DC heroes or villains coming to Arrow or The Flash? —Michael
Ausiello: I’ve got some explosive scoop on this one (you’ll see what I did there in a minute): Sgt. Bette Sans Souci – AKA Plastique – will make her way to The Flash this season.
The series’ incarnation of the metahuman is a fetching young redhead who was a bomb specialist with the Army before she was injured by an IED in Iraq.
Since being exposed to the Central City explosion, she can turn any object into a bomb with just a touch of her hand – not a bad comrade for The Flash to have on his team, eh? (Source)

What can you tell me about Stephen Amell’s cameo in the pilot for The Flash? —Kat
I can tell you that it’s a nice enough, if obvious, moment, where Barry seeks out the nudge he needs to be the hero he now can be.
Now, if I can interest you in some Episode 2 scoop, I am hearing that the second metahuman The Flash will face off against might make us all feel a bit… well, Mist-y. (Source)

EXCLUSIVE: Simon Stagg to be in THE FLASH | SciFi4Me.com

‘The Flash’: Robbie Amell Cast as Firestorm | Variety

Any info on the crossover episodes of Flash and Arrow? — Leona
I hear the shows' overall narrative arcs will be somewhat related this season, enough so that the crossover will make sense.
"Something will happen at the end of Episode 7 of Arrow that will send the Arrow team to Central City and they will discover it was a wider plot, which will drive them all back to Starling City," executive producer Andrew Kreisberg tells me. (Source)

DC Entertainment Launches New Arrow and The Flash Digital Comics - Today's News: Our Take | TVGuide.com

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The Flash Casting Scoop: It's Time to Meet Plastique | E! Online

‘The Flash’ Season 1 Casting DC Comics Villain Girder aka Tony Woodward | TVLine

The Clock King On ‘The Flash’ — ‘Arrow’ Villain In Crossover Episode | TVLine

'The Flash': Clancy Brown, Wade Eiling/The General, Joins 'Arrow' Spinoff - Hollywood Reporter

Zap2it First: 'The Flash' casts 'Star-Crossed's' Greg Finley as Girder - Zap2it | News & Features

‘The Flash': Heatwave Spoilers — Dominic Purcell, Wentworth Miller Reunite | TVLine

Flash's Greg Berlanti Talks Crossovers, Crisis, Upcoming Villains & More | FlashTVNews

ϟ 'The Flash' Season 1: Barry, Iris and Felicity love triangle will be addressed - Zap2it | News & Features

The Flash Story Details, Character Relationships, Easter Eggs and More

"The Flash" Showrunner Andrew Kreisberg Races Between TV & Comics - Comic Book Resources

Candice Patton Says "The Flash's" Iris West is No Damsel In Distress - Comic Book Resources

Entertainment Weekly Fall 2014 Television Scans

CW’s ‘The Flash’ Casts Original Show’s Heroine | Variety

‘The Flash’ & ‘Jane The Virgin’ Get Additional Script Orders | Deadline

Do you know if The Flash is looking to introduce any more of the Rogues from the comics? – Andy B.
In addition to the likes of Captains Cold and Boomerang, at midseason we will also meet Hartley, a onetime mentee of Dr. Wells’ who lost his hearing in an accident and now is out to wreak havoc with an invention of his own.
(Of course, you may know Hartley — who happens to be gay — as the Pied Piper.) (Source)

'Arrow' casts 'Spartacus' actor as Captain Boomerang | Inside TV | EW.com

The CW Gives The Flash's Series Premiere an Extra Three Minutes - SuperHeroHype

‘The Flash’ Season 1 Spoilers — Time Travel, Grodd, Meta Humans Prison? | TVLine

'The Flash': Victor Garber, Martin Stein/Firestorm, Joins - Hollywood Reporter

‘The Flash': Openly Gay Pied Piper — Andy Mientus Cast in Season 1 | TVLine

The Flash Arrow Spoilers: Felicity Double-Date with Barry Allen?

NYCC: The Flash's Second Episode and The 100 Season Premiere Debut - IGN (Slight Spoilers)

‘The Flash’ Casts Roger Howarth of ‘General Hospital’ as Reporter Mason Bridge | TVLine

'The Flash' Enlists 'Vampire Diaries' Alum as Key DC Comics Character (Exclusive) - Hollywood Reporter

Flash vs. Arrow: Andrew Kreisberg Talks About The Crossover | FlashTVNews

'The Flash' & 'Arrow' Casts Preview Two-Night Crossover Event | Access Hollywood

flash & arrow: 10 biggest questions answered

The Flash Mid-Season Finale to Run an Extra Two Minutes - ComingSoon.net

The Flash - Season 1 - Peyton List cast as Captain Cold's Sister | Spoilers

‘The Flash’ Season 1 Cast — Nicholas Gonzalez as Cisco’s Brother Dante | TVLine

Spoiler Room: Scoop on 'Parenthood,' 'Parks and Rec,' Agent Carter' and more | Inside TV | EW.com

'The Flash' taps Liam McIntyre as new Weather Wizard | Inside TV | EW.com

The Flash: Britne Oldford Cast As...Peek-A-Boo? | Comicbook.com

'The Flash': Wells confirmed as Reverse Flash, but are there more? | Inside TV | EW.com

The Flash: Reverse-Flash's Identity Revealed... But is There More To It? - IGN

Arrow and The Flash Will Cross Over Once a Year - IGN

The Flash Exclusive: Devon Graye To Play Copycat Trickster In Mark Hamill's Return | Comicbook.com

'The Flash': Barry's on the hunt for Reverse Flash as Captain Cold returns | Inside TV | EW.com

'The Flash' Stars Tease Major Time-Travel Storyline - The Hollywood Reporter

'The Flash': Grant Gustin on Old Enemies, New Loves and a 'Groundhog Day' Homage!






ϟ SET PHOTOS, CANDIDS, and VIDEOS

Pilot - BTS

BTS Photos

The Flash - Behind the Scenes - Facebook Video | Spoilers

BTS Photos - Grant Gustin

BTS Photos - Candice Patton

BTS - Episode Four

BTS - Episode Four

WentWorth Miller

WentWorth Miller/BTS Photos

BTS - Episode Five

Robbie Amell's BTS Photos (Facebook)

BTS - The Flash/Arrow Crossover

BTS - The Flash/Arrow Crossover

The Flash - First Look - Reverse-Flash/Prof. Zoom Costume - Set Photos

Set Photos - 1.04 Going Rogue

The Flash shoots scenes over 3 days for episode 108 "The Flash VS Arrow"

The Flash - BTS Photo of Firestorm; Victor Garber & Robbie Amell | Spoilers

1x13 BTS Set 4 - Flash Fans Dot Org - Photo Gallery

1x14 BTS Set 1 - Flash Fans Dot Org - Photo Gallery

Up close and personal with stars from CW’s ‘The Flash’ | WGN-TV

Filming - 12/18/2014 - Candice Patton Gallery - Photo Gallery

Filming - 12/18/2014 - Grant Gustin

Bowling in a Bathrobe: the @candicekp chronicles

1x16 BTS Pics - Grant Gustin and Candice Patton

1x16 BTS Set 3 - Flash Fans Dot Org - Photo Gallery

1x16 BTS Pics Grant Gustin and Candice Patton - Part 1

1x16 BTS Pics - Grant Gustin and Candice Patton - Part 2

Grant Gustin and Candice Patton Filming - 1/07/15

Grant Gustin and Candice Patton Filming - 1/07/15

Video - Dominic Purcell Interview

1x16 BTS Set 5 - Flash Fans Dot Org - Photo Gallery

The Flash - Episode 1.10 - Revenge of the Rogues - Promotional Photos | Spoilers

BTS Pic - Candice Patton - 1/12/15




ϟ PAST THREADS

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ParsD 04-18-2015 04:50 PM

TFTNT

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Originally Posted by scorpio_chick (Post 81128979)
Well the writers are setting it up for her to be more forgiving of Eddie and I don't have a problem with that. Joe and Barry should get the brunt of her anger, IMO.

IA, but Eddie's a big boy and he nevertheless chose to betray Iris' trust and deserves getting dumped for it. I really hope Iris takes him back out of loneliness, because she ****ing deserves better.

But I never know with the writers. Maybe they think women should just accept their boyfriend betraying their trust as long as the guy feels guilty. :rolleyes:

Bree347 04-18-2015 05:17 PM

Tftnt

scorpio_chick 04-18-2015 05:27 PM

Nah. I don't think he deserves to be dumped. If that's the case, Iris should "dump" Barry as a friend and never consider a romantic relationship with him. But this is a tv show, of course and lying is often used as a form of angst. No big deal to me, as long as all the beats of the story are played.

ParsD 04-18-2015 05:46 PM

The rules are vastly different for a best friend who's grown distant and the boyfriend she lives with. Eddie is like a step away from her husband, so truthfulness and trust should be essential to their relationship.

IMO Eddie lying to her about Mason isn't much better than cheating. Betrayal is betrayal. Tv or not, I'd like Iris to have more respect for herself than put up with this crap.

scorpio_chick 04-18-2015 06:38 PM

The rules are different? Not to me. If anything, Barry should be held to a much higher standard, considering that it's his secret and Iris still probably trusts him above everyone else. I mean, she did just confide in him about Eddie cheating, something that she couldn't even talk about with Eddie.

Given the circumstances, I don't think Iris staying with Eddie will have anything to do with self respect or lack thereof. IMO, that's rather problematic and premature to say, especially when we haven't seen how it all plays out.

Leelala 04-18-2015 06:55 PM

Thanks for the new thread :)

ParsD 04-18-2015 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scorpio_chick (Post 81135195)
The rules are different? Not to me. If anything, Barry should be held to a much higher standard, considering that it's his secret and Iris still probably trusts him above everyone else. I mean, she did just confide in him about Eddie cheating, something that she couldn't even talk about with Eddie.

I make a big distinction between Eddie lying about Mason and not telling Iris about Flash. I don't fault him as much for the latter, that's all on Barry.

But I disagree about Barry being held up to higher standards. Iris herself doesn't think so. She confronted Barry about keeping secrets from her in 1.02, and 1.05, and later asked Caitlin about it. But she never considered leaving their friendship due to those secrets. But Eddie's secrets 1.18 was a deal-breaker.

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Given the circumstances, I don't think Iris staying with Eddie will have anything to do with self respect or lack thereof. IMO, that's rather problematic and premature to say, especially when we haven't seen how it all plays out.
TV has characters (often females) forgive (male) characters too easily for some really ugly things. It's not problematic to take issue with that.

I seriously doubt the writers even care that much. It'll probably be because Iris doesn't have any friends, her character will just have to forgive Eddie right away so she can have somewhere to stay.

scorpio_chick 04-18-2015 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ParsD (Post 81135686)
But I disagree about Barry being held up to higher standards. Iris herself doesn't think so. She confronted Barry about keeping secrets from her in 1.02, and 1.05, and later asked Caitlin about it. But she never considered leaving their friendship due to those secrets. But Eddie's secrets 1.18 was a deal-breaker.

I don't think that's proof that she doesn't hold Barry to a higher standard. If anything it shows that she's much more emotionally invested in Barry and would have a tougher time ending their relationship. The fact that she's likely to be angrier with Barry than Eddie pretty much tells me that she holds him to a higher standard.

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TV has characters (often females) forgive (male) characters too easily for some really ugly things. It's not problematic to take issue with that.
I wouldn't disagree on that. But I don't believe in projecting certain labels on to characters simply because they make a choice that we may not make or agree with.

ParsD 04-18-2015 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpio_chick (Post 81136481)
I don't think that's proof that she doesn't hold Barry to a higher standard. If anything it shows that she's much more emotionally invested in Barry and would have a tougher time ending their relationship. The fact that she's likely to be angrier with Barry than Eddie pretty much tells me that she holds him to a higher standard.

I'm not saying she'll be more mad at Eddie, I'm talking about how much she'll be willing to stand for. Barry is family and people forgive family for things they would never forgive a boy/girlfriend for.

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Originally Posted by scorpio_chick (Post 81136481)
I wouldn't disagree on that. But I don't believe in projecting certain labels on to characters simply because they make a choice that we may not make or agree with.

What labels? I wouldn't have a problem with Iris making any choices, so long as they're in character and fleshed out, but when her choices are just for plot purpose then pointing out their problematic nature is fair game.

scorpio_chick 04-18-2015 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParsD (Post 81136659)
I'm not saying she'll be more mad at Eddie, I'm talking about how much she'll be willing to stand for. Barry is family and people forgive family for things they would never forgive a boy/girlfriend for.

Honestly, I'm a little confused about what we're debating now. lol Anyway, it seems pretty clear that she's going to forgive Eddie and again, I don't see the problem with that, given the circumstances.

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What labels? I wouldn't have a problem with Iris making any choices, so long as they're in character and fleshed out, but when her choices are just for plot purpose then pointing out their problematic nature is fair game.
I'm pretty sure that if she stays with Eddie, it will serve the plot somehow, but since it's not something that I see as OOC or proof of her level of self respect, I won't have a problem with it.

ParsD 04-18-2015 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by scorpio_chick (Post 81136804)
Honestly, I'm a little confused about what we're debating now. lol Anyway, it seems pretty clear that she's going to forgive Eddie and again, I don't see the problem with that, given the circumstances.

I'm pretty sure that if she stays with Eddie, it will serve the plot somehow, but since it's not something that I see as OOC or proof of her level of self respect, I won't have a problem with it.

Well, characterization on this show is terrible, so yeah. But considering how fast she forgives him I doubt she'll even bring up Mason (even though Candice said Iris didn't buy it) and to me that's just cray.

scorpio_chick 04-18-2015 10:07 PM

I think Mason will be brought up at some point, considering that Iris will be interacting with the man who killed him.

ParsD 04-18-2015 10:14 PM

I meant to Eddie. I'll be surprised if she gives him **** for manipulating her investigation.

But yeah, Iris is ending up at STAR next ep, so she probably gets a mysterious letter/email from someone connected to Mason offscreen.

scorpio_chick 04-18-2015 10:26 PM

No, that's what I mean. Since it will likely be brought up, I don't see how her calling Eddie on his lie can be avoided. Though, that's not just on Eddie. That seemed to be a lie that they all came up with. Eddie just got stuck with telling the lie, probably because Iris asked for his help earlier.


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