Spoilers - Bones S&S #3- One step closer to couples therapy!? *snicker*

**-maybe someday love-** · 12-12-2006, 09:58 AM

WELCOME TO THE 3RD OFFICIAL BONES SPOILERS & SPECULATIONS THREAD

by shauna

+GENERAL INFO/SPOILERS+

Bones will NOT be moving to Fridays as previously rumored. It will stay in it's original day/time after the winter hiatus.

Brennan is getting a love interest, Agent Sullivan, starting in episode thirteen, rumored to be played by actor Eddie McClintock.
*Here's a snapshot of the infamous "Sully"* AKA "Not!Booth"

+UPCOMING EPISODES+

2x11 - Judas on a Pole (12/13/06)

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When a man’s body is found gutted, burned and hung up like a scarecrow on the roof of the Federal Building, Booth and Brennan are called in to identify the charred remains and determine who was behind the murder. Based on several factors, Booth determines the victim was a snitch working within an organized crime syndicate. Brennan’s brother, Russ (guest star Loren Dean), tells her he got a mysterious call from their long-lost father, warning him they are in danger, and Brennan is contacted by a priest (guest star Ryan O’Neal), who delivers a message from their father insisting she and Booth drop the case. Brennan and Booth determine the murdered victim was ex-FBI agent Garrett Delaney, who was tracking Russ and planning to kill him, giving more credence to their father’s warning. As more clues come to light and a government conspiracy is revealed, Booth and Brennan make a shocking discovery as to who was behind Delaney’s murder, and Booth is forced to make one of the most important decisions of his career, with very personal ramifications. Meanwhile, Zack must defend his dissertation, the last step to completing his doctorate, but needs some help from Angela to help him get taken seriously in the “Judas on a Pole” episode of BONES airing Wednesday, Dec. 13 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (BON-211) (TV-14 L, V)

2x12 - The Man in the Cell
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2x13 - The Girl In The Gator
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2x14 - The Man in the Mansion
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2x15 - The Bodies in the Book
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2x16 - The Boneless Bride in the River
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+INTERVIEWS & OTHER NEWS+

From David's Blog
Dec. 1st 2006

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We're on day 5 of 8 of episode 14, "The Man in the Mansion," which is coming out great with Dwight Little directing. We get back into the courthouse, then you see some more stuff with my therapist and Carolyn Julianne, who is a great character, played by Patricia Belcher, who I really like working with. There's some insight into Bones and maybe the possibility of another guy sneaking in to take her on a date and maybe even more… who knows? All the while Booth is going through some difficult stuff.

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I think the key for our show now is enhancing our relationship, myself and Bones. Getting in there and making the whole thing grow with each other, it's really becoming something nice and that’s what we're building on.

From TV GUIDE

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Q: I read David Boreanaz talking about Booth having a nervous breakdown. True?
Hart Hanson: I’m not sure I would call it a breakdown, but there is an incredibly inappropriate piece of behavior on his part. Booth has to talk to the departmental psychiatrist after a death with which he is involved. We will also see some of the origins of his gambling addictions, but I’m not willing to tell you yet what they are. We saw a little bit of that in the dress-up episode in Vegas.

Q: Will we see Brennan and Booth get together?
Hanson: We will see everything we can do to put them together without them getting together for as long as we can pull that off. We’re going to place them in romance's way as much as we can, but we think we have quite a ways to go. They will actually have to go into partners/couples counseling because of a range of things. And then, as they are to one degree or another involved in each other’s romantic lives at separate times, they find themselves being there for the other, and they may end up discussing things that they probably wouldn’t willingly discuss about love, romance, and especially sex.

Q: Is real-life forensic anthropologist Kathy Reichs, who inspired Bones, ever going to be in one of the episodes?
Hanson: She is in an upcoming episode [airing Dec. 13 and directed by The X-Files' David Duchovny] playing a member of Zach’s dissertation committee. She doesn’t like him; that’s all I’ll say about that. [See TVGuide.com's recent Q&A with Reichs about her drop-by.]

Q: Is Bones moving to a new time slot come January?
Hanson: No, we’ll stay at 8 o’clock on Wednesdays, preceding American Idol. It’s good for the whole network when American Idol comes on. Those American Idol people — they know what they are doing. Michaela [Conlin, Angela] has been there, and I think they have guards to keep Eric from running up on to the stage. They love American Idol.

Q: David, what did you think when Emily called your character a "man whore" in the TV Guide (8/28) - Chris Lee, via email

David: Wait until the upcoming episode where she's with Agent Sullivan!
Emily: I didn't sleep with that person! I go to coffee with him. It's not even a date.
David: Oh, really? Do you have coffee at five star hotels? It's not just coffee.
Emily: He thinks that going for coffee with someone is worse, just because it's a fancy resturant, then sleeping with two women in the same episode!
David: Let me tell you something: I ahve a past with these women! I have a relationship! One is the mother of my child, OK?

Q: Will we learn more of Booth's sniper past in the show? Will we learn the reason behind Bones' mistrust of men? - Debbie Stevens, Frederic, MD
David: There is more to come. Booth is going to therapy, and he's getting a little nutty. You'll see how messy that is going to become.
Emily: I don't know if it's ever spelled out, but delve into the history of Brennan's family and you can draw your own conclusions. My family abandoned me when I was a teenager, my brother left me, my mother was murdered, and my dad is a bad guy. SO why would I trust a man at all?

SBristow · 12-12-2006, 11:29 AM

New thread!

traciepwns · 12-12-2006, 12:33 PM

..and yay for the title

I actually agree with you, CTUgal21. I just made a post similar to yours, on another forum.

As much as I don't want to like Sully, I think that in order for Brennan and Booth to end up together, there needs to be some conflict in their relationship and they need to realize how much they need each other. There's that saying "You don't know what you have until it's gone..". I'm not saying that they're going to stop talking to each other, but Brennan clearly seems to have made Sully her confidant. I'm thinking that he's going to wind up betraying her somehow in the end. Anywho, my point, is that if B&B take a step back from each other, eventually they'll realize what was right in front of their faces the whole time.

And plus, why is Booth the only one who gets to have some fun. Brennan deserves to get some too!

So here's a question for you guys that's been bugging me...

Why do you think that at the end of "The Headless Witch in the Woods", Brennan initially refused Booth's hug? Was it because she knew he was with Cam, and it *did* make their relationship different? Or because he was just not willing to trust any guy at that moment?

**-maybe someday love-** · 12-12-2006, 01:54 PM

traciepwns- Thank you for agreeing with me!

I knew I couldn't be alone with my thoughts. And you can call me Shauna.

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I'm thinking that he's going to wind up betraying her somehow in the end. Anywho, my point, is that if B&B take a step back from each other, eventually they'll realize what was right in front of their faces the whole time.

And You're EXACTLY right. Booth/Brennan need to step away from each other for a bit to realize what was in front of them ... what they offered to each other.. and how great and special it was.. to truly realize what they have together. And nothing willl convince me otherwise. All these thigns the writers are doing .. are ..well yes.. contrived ways to prolong the romance.. but also in the end.. it is all for them.. to show them ultimatley that they are right for each other. And sadly..for that reason..I almost think Sully has to end up betraying Brennan in the end.

It's inevitable I'm thinking at this point.

And great question about the hug.

I think it was the mostly to due with the fact that she knew Booth/Cam were together... and maybe a little heistation b/c of that line there so close to crossing but never do. She wasn't sure what he was trying to do.. and she said.. "Booth".. and then he assured her it was just a "guy hug" (yeah right.

) ..but I firmly believed that yes.. she felt like she didn't have the best taste in men.. but she trusted Booth completely in that moment.

Now some points of discussion I want to bring up.
-It seems clear by the sides for 2x16 that Booth/Cam might not be anymore. When, why, and who broke it off b/w them?

-And in the same regards.. Booth mentioned to Brennan that he talked about her in therapy...but he didn't tell her what he said. A) Do you think we will get to see the scenes in which he talked about her. B) And what do you think he said about her?

FYI: I started to update the first post.

Bear with me.. it's a slow process.

MsJ · 12-12-2006, 05:18 PM

Oops! Double post. Darned FF server.

MsJ · 12-12-2006, 05:20 PM

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-It seems clear by the sides for 2x16 that Booth/Cam might not be anymore. When, why, and who broke it off b/w them?

I'm guessing that it's an offshoot of Booth being in therapy. He probably figures out the real reason he's with Cam ("if you can't be with the one you love, 'love' the one you're with"), and decides it's not fair to her/not how he wants to live his life. They said at one point that if either one wants to end it they can--no harm, no foul. And Booth didn't really seem to be into it when she was trying to get him to go to New York.

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And in the same regards.. Booth mentioned to Brennan that he talked about her in therapy...but he didn't tell her what he said. A) Do you think we will get to see the scenes in which he talked about her. B) And what do you think he said about her?

Yes I think we'll see that scene (or HH may just have a riot on his hands from disappointed B/B shippers.

) The doctor probably told him to figure out who/what were the most important people/things in his life and to put his energies into his relationships with those people/things instead of trying to control everything he touches, which is driving him a little nuts. For Booth the list would be: Parker, Brennan, and his job. I'm sure that Booth would turn himself inside out trying to describe how he feels about Brennan without saying he loves her. It makes you wonder if the shrink will make him 'fess up or not.

Something that occurred to me that might happen after Booth is in therapy a while: he might ask Brennan if she wants to have Not!Booth for a partner instead of him. I can see this happening given how in Ep. 2.16 Brennan doesn't seem to want to have anything to do with Booth. That would be good for a whole lot of Booth angst if it took Brennan a while to decide. Or she might just say, "Are you kidding? Why the hell would I want Not!Booth when I can have the real deal?"

Angelcakes_UK · 12-12-2006, 06:08 PM

The guy who plays Sully kinda looks like DB in that pic. Hm.

**-maybe someday love-** · 12-12-2006, 06:26 PM

MsJ- I"m with you on all points! Great speculation.

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For Booth the list would be: Parker, Brennan, and his job.

I couldn't agree more.

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I'm sure that Booth would turn himself inside out trying to describe how he feels about Brennan without saying he loves her. It makes you wonder if the shrink will make him 'fess up or not.

I'm really wondering what's going to happen with all this shink stuff. Obviously they force feelings out of you..... but are the writers really going to more or less have Booth reveal his feelings about Brennan? I really think it's a possiblity. I mean, I sure as heck don't think we'll get a love declaration, but after all this is therapy.. and I think we might possibly get some insight on him and his feelings Brennan. But your right.. he would go around in circles trying to describe Brennan without trying to truly fess up how he really feels. And I think this is the perfect storyline IMO.. to finally force those feelings out. I mean.. why else have this storyline? It's the perfect set-up. And meanwhile.. Brennan with Sully. Boo. LOL. But either way.. I always figured someting like this for the start of a romantic exploration into BB. Have one of them .. obviously Booth first.. admitting to someone else how he feels about Brennan. We'll see if that's the route they go. And now my theory based on what we know now is that the Sully/Brennan thing is too perfect..and therefore it can only end bad. Plus the writers have to keep showing us that Booth is ultimatley the right man for her.. so... yeah. The only question I have now is.. Would Cam/Booth ever get back together once they would break up? I would not like that. I would frown. I could see Booth getting angsty and weak because Brennan is "happy" with Sully. ..(though not for long) And my other question is? If Booth/Cam are no more.. what purpose does she really have left on the show past season 2? None that I can see. Run along Cam. Run along and take Sully with you. They can ride off into the sunset together.

Angelcakes_UK- That's precisely the point I think.

That's why everyone is calling him Not!Booth. He's like the B version of Booth... not the real thing.. but a damn good subsitute. No wonder why she's attracted to him, hehe.

AmericanDirrty · 12-12-2006, 06:51 PM

love the new thread (nice set-up) and title!

traciepwns · 12-12-2006, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CTUgal21 (View Post)

But your right.. he would go around in circles trying to describe Brennan without trying to truly fess up how he really feels. And I think this is the perfect storyline IMO.. to finally force those feelings out. I mean.. why else have this storyline? It's the perfect set-up. And meanwhile.. Brennan with Sully. Boo. LOL.

I can feel the angst already.

I can totally see Booth trying to describe Brennan..then the therapist coming out and saying "so what I'm getting from you is that you care about her, more than just a friendship kind of caring..." then have Booth try to deny it or something.

How much would if suck if Booth was ready to admit that there was something more than just friendship between him and Brennan, but alas, she's involved with someone else..and that someone else just happens to be a friend of his. I think if it was a random 'joe schmo" it would be easier since he always *could* try to break them up, but this guy being one of his friends..I think it will make it A LOT different.

That and they're going to need to figure out a way to stretch the sexual tension for a while...since we all know that if they get together now, the show is doomed. So maybe Booth will decide to find someone else when he realizes that Brennan and Not!Booth are happy, then a bit later, Brennan & Not!Booth break up and Booth and his new chick are happy and Brennan comes to the realization that she misses Booth. This could go back and forth until at least the 5th season...maybe more.

Brennan's line about getting a girlfriend doesn't necessarily mean that he's no longer with Cam. He's the one who keeps saying that "it's just sex" with her, so maybe Brennan is telling him that he needs to find someone who can give him more than that.

**-maybe someday love-** · 12-12-2006, 08:55 PM

Oh yes..... it's angst city for sure!!!

I'm always up for a little angst though, hehe!

And I see what your saying, but ehhh....all that back and forth stuff, seeing them constantly go with other people.. while the other one is pining for another season after season. will get old fast for the audience. I think that would alienate/turn off more fans if anything. What do audiences want? They don't want to wait 48553948 years for their ship to get together and they acutally want to see them together for more than a few episodes. So.. I would rather see them trying to do a BB relationship on screen sooner than all that back and forth pining stuff .. season after season. However, a for little while though that is pefectly fine.. more than fine. It really needs to be done...b/c Booth/Brennan's relationship is ALL about the buildup. {And on a side note: I must mention that I really don't think the show would be doomed BB were to get together. I really don't...because I think their relationship would be a stand out one.. they are already unique and speical as friends.. add romance.. and it would be very interesting on screen.. if written with care.} And as far as the five seasons. I know a few people who would make you take that back.

I really can't see till the fifth season until anything romantic would happen. I mean seeing them "together togther".. where they would acutally be together.. chosing to be together.. yes.. but as far as other romantic developments, I really can't see it taking that long anymore. I know the writers and Hart want to wait till as long as they can hold it off.... but even know that it's inevitable.... and that's larely due to the fact that Dave/Emily have so much chemistry between them.. that the tension is already ready to explode now. as it is.

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Brennan's line about getting a girlfriend doesn't necessarily mean that he's no longer with Cam. He's the one who keeps saying that "it's just sex" with her, so maybe Brennan is telling him that he needs to find someone who can give him more than that.

I didn't think about it like that. You could be right! Boo.

Well... either way.. Cam and Sully need to go off together at the end of this season, hehe.

traciepwns · 12-12-2006, 09:16 PM

Oh, trust me..I don't want them to wait forever either, but after my last two shipping experiences ended badly, I tend to proceed with caution:

*Chris & Rita on Silk Stalkings - They have sex, she gets pregnant, they get married and Chris dies, all within 4 episodes (and in that order).

*Mulder & Scully on X Files - We get confirmation *finally* that they're together after waiting 8 long years..then Season 9 turns out to be the last season..and Mulder's on the run for 99% of it, only to be really reunited with Scully for like the last 5 minutes of so.

So when it comes to my 'ships' getting together, I tend to be a bit weary. My inner shipper is screaming for B&B to get together like tomorrow, but the other side of me is worried about losing another show to poor writing. If the writers on Bones play it out well, then things could be fine. Otherwise, I'd settle for a dream sequence or another undercover thing where they really do have to pretend to be "together".

**-maybe someday love-** · 12-12-2006, 09:41 PM

Wow..the Mulder/Scully thing .. I just started season one..and wow.. I've got quite ALOT ahead of me.. don't I? LOL. Geez.

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*Chris & Rita on Silk Stalkings - They have sex, she gets pregnant, they get married and Chris dies all within 4 episodes.

OH MY!

Now *THAT* is just terrible!!

And hun.. I see EXACLTY what you're saying.

I'm very weary when it comes to shipping as well. It's just..... I admit..I haven't shipped anybody this hard in a quite a while..and this huge part of me takes over..that part being the one that just has to see BB get together or I will....uh... die.

But yes, I understand. That weary part comes out in me and I wish It didn't. I wish I could just watch a show without becoming fearful .. but I've learned over that years that's next to impossible. I have to say that I've been burned by every single ship that I've ever shipped at some point.... so somtimes.... I can't help but think .. how will this time be any different?

But with BB.. I just have to have some kind of faith it will be different. I just love them so much. I guess..for once I would love to be satisfied and not be burned by a show in end. Not to much to ask.. I think not. I'm not saying that I wont be pissed off by it.. but there's a difference b/w them pissing your fans off .....and completely screwing them over. All I can hope for now.. is that the writers and Hart have BB's best interest in mind while they keep on developing their relationship...and whatever they decide to do with their relationship.. whether someting happens for them sooner or later.. they just don't blow it.. and they write it with as much care as possible.

traciepwns · 12-12-2006, 10:29 PM

Ryan O' Neil was on Entertainment tonight...and there are quite a few spoilers..

**-maybe someday love-** · 12-12-2006, 10:40 PM

Thank you for that link!

Interesting interview.

It has me even more curious now about the eppie.