Master storytellers Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz ("Lost," "Tron: Legacy") invite everyone to join Emma Swan, Snow White, Prince Charming, Rumplestiltskin, Hook and the Evil Queen Regina as they travel through a portal on the Jolly Roger in an effort to reach Neverland and rescue Henry.
Welcome to Storybrooke, Maine, a small town that probably won't show up on your GPS, but it's a magical place to visit. Reality and myth merged after Emma broke Regina's curse, which had deprived the fairytale characters of their memories and trapped them in our modern world. When they finally regained their identities, our heroes were dismayed to discover that they weren't transported back to Fairy Tale Land. To make matters worse, Rumplestiltskin - aka Mr. Gold - decided to escalate his power struggle with Regina by introducing magic into the town. But this is our world, and magic always has a tendency to yield unfathomable consequences.
Nothing is more important than family, and these characters' bonds are as strong as the line between good and evil is blurry. Mary Margaret and Emma - mother and daughter reunited -- were sucked into a portal that transported them to what was left of Fairy Tale Land. It was there that they met Mulan and Aurora, who helped them evade Cora and Hook and enabled them to travel back to Storybrooke, reuniting them with Emma's father, David, and her son, Henry. But Cora and Hook found another portal into town, where Cora set about reuniting with her own daughter, Regina. Cora then attempted to find Mr. Gold's dagger in a play to take him down and become the Dark One herself. Hook had also aspired to kill Mr. Gold, not for power but for revenge. And Mr. Gold set out to find his son, Bae, which he did, in New York, with the aid of Emma and Henry. Much to everyone's surprise, Bae turned out to be Emma's former love, Neal, and Henry's father. Back in Storybrooke, Mary Margaret did something completely against her nature - she used dark magic to kill Cora - causing her own heart to darken. And Greg Mendell -- who saw magic in the town as a boy and believes Regina knows where he can find his father - along with his partner, Tamara, planned to eradicate magic completely from our world using a trigger that Regina had planted within her curse. During the struggle to save Storybrooke, Neal was shot by Tamara and fell through a portal to the Enchanted Forest -- barely alive - where he was found by Aurora, Mulan and Prince Phillip. Although their plan was foiled, Greg and Tamara kidnapped Henry and brought him through a portal to their "Home Office," believing that they might still be able to use him to destroy magic in all worlds. With the aid of Hook and his ship, Emma, Mary Margaret, David, Mr. Gold and Regina used the last magic bean to follow Henry, Greg and Tamara... to Neverland.
First order of business this season: save Henry. But Neverland is a much darker place than you remember, and in order for our heroes to accomplish their mission, they'll have to face a foe more powerful than the Dark One himself. What does Peter Pan want with Henry? Can our heroes put aside their differences and work together? Will Aurora, Mulan and Prince Phillip be able to nurse Neal back to health and reunite him with his family? New fairytale characters will be revealed and old acquaintances will be revisited. So think of a wonderful thought... because our Neverland's going to be a fever dream that just won't break.
"Once Upon a Time" stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as the Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Colin O'Donoghue as Hook, Michael Raymond-James as Baelfire/Neal Cassidy, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.
UPCOMING EPISODES
3.03 Quite a Common Fairy
HOOK SUGGESTS TRACKING DOWN TINKER BELL TO HELP LOCATE PAN’S HIDEOUT, NEAL DEVISES A PLAN THAT COULD TRANSPORT HIM TO EMMA BY USING ONE OF ROBIN HOOD’S MOST PRECIOUS POSSESSIONS AND TINKER BELL OFFERS TO HELP REGINA IMPROVE HER LIFE, ON ABC’S “ONCE UPON A TIME”
“Quite a Common Fairy” – In their continuing quest to find Peter Pan’s hideout and save Henry, Hook suggests tracking down Tinker Bell in the hope that she will lead them straight to his camp. Pan reveals to Henry why he has brought him to Neverland and in the Enchanted Forest, Neal has a plan that could transport him to Emma, but it would involve using one of Robin Hood’s most precious possessions. Meanwhile, in the Fairy Tale Land that was, Tinker Bell offers to help Regina improve her life, on “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, OCTOBER 7 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.
“Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as the Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook, Michael Raymond-James as Baelfire/Neal Cassidy, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.
Guest starring are Keegan Connor Tracy as Mother Superior/Blue Fairy, Sarah Bolger as Aurora, Jamie Chung as Mulan, Sean Maguire as Robin Hood, Robbie Kay as Pan, Jason Burkart as Little John, Rose McIver as Tinker Bell, Raphael Alejandro as Roland, Parker Croft as Felix and Dominic Downer as knight.
”Quite a Common Fairy” was written by Jane Espenson and directed by Alex Zakrzewski.
What’s going to happen to Storybrooke on Once Upon a Time? —Lauren
NATALIE: Just because most of the ABC’s fairy-tale drama’s main characters went through a portal to Neverland does not mean we won’t be seeing Storybrooke next season. In fact, Emilie de Ravin, whose Belle has been left in charge of the town, confirms that she’ll continue to be a series regular in Season 3. The Lost alum also notes that even though Belle’s memories are allintact, it doesn’t mean she’ll write Mr. Gold off for his actions while she was Lacey. “She was going along with it though, so therefore you can’t blame him if you’re the one saying, ‘Kick that guy’s a—,” she says, noting that Belle will be devastated about his absence when the show returns. “But also she’ll gain her strength back and she’ll have to if she’s going to protect an entire town.” Source
Is it just me, or do you think Hook has feelings for Emma on Once Upon a Time? Any scoop on them would be awesome! –Kelley B
You know my stance on the whole Emma thing: What guy wouldn’t? But where Hook is concerned, seeing as he’s now on a journey with two eligible bachelorettes, the Jolly Roger might transform into the Love Boat. “It’s probably about time he sort of found another love in his life,” Colin O’Donoghue shared with me at season’s end. “But if it was a toss-up between [traveling companions] Regina or Emma, I’m not sure exactly who he’d go for.” Given that Emma is currently reeling from the loss of Neal, “Maybe he’ll have fun with Regina, while he’s waiting for Emma,” the pirate’s portrayer ventures. “Who knows!” Source
Does Once Upon a Time plan on telling the current stories of the characters in Storybrooke, or will Season 3 focus on Neverland and the Enchanted Forest? –Ellie
In case my previous scoopage on this subject did not reassure you that, as the headline said, “Storybrooke will not be forgotten,” I just confirmed that Emilie de Ravin is still a series regular for Season 3. Thus, it sounds like Belle will certainly have Maine events of her own to deal with back home.
Tinker Bell's Turn
Clap your hands if you believe in fairies, Once Upon a Time fans! And if you clap loudly enough, you might just get to meet Tinker Bell. With the action moving from Storybrooke to Neverland in Season 3, Peter Pan's favorite fairy is expected to play a significant role. In keeping with Once tradition, viewers will discover that Tink shares a surprising connection to one of the regulars. I do believe in fairies! I do! I do! Source
Question: Are the rumors true about Once Upon a Time introducing Tinker Bell? —Bonnie
Ausiello: I’ll answer that question by describing to you the new character of Violet and letting you draw your own conclusions. How about that? Vi is a mischievous twentysomething whose penchant for troublemaking belies the heart of a true survivor. (Interesting side note, especially for Hook if she is Tinkerbell: She never lets a slight go unpunished!) Source
Do you have any Regina-related scoop for Once Upon a Time Season 3? –ZsaZsa
And how! With an eye on the upcoming run, series cocreator Adam Horowitz tells us, “We may find out that perhaps, just perhaps, there is a special someone out there for Regina.” Source
Peter Pan, a new Robin Hood, Lost Boys plural….. Should Once Upon a Time fans be worried that the main cast will be overshadowed by the Season 3 newbies? –Devin
I wouldn’t worry. I mean, we knew Peter Pan was coming, and where theres’ Pan, there are Lost Boys in the background. And Robin Hood, I suspect, will play a role on whats going on in the Fairytale Land That Is, probably impeding Neal’s return “home.” As series cocreator Adam Horowitz told me (after I suggested they’d be giving Belle new friends there in Storybrooke), “There will be some new characters, but for the most part were going to be focusing on our core group of regulars from Seasons 1 and 2. If characters do come in, it will, at least at first, be more akin to how we used Robin Hood in Season 2.” Source
Will we get a definitive explanation of the Home Office on Once Upon a Time? — Pedro
NATALIE: Yes, in the season premiere. "As we stated in the finale, Greg and Tamara don't know that they're working for Peter Pan," executive producer Adam Horowitz says. "So the Home Office is related to Pan, but that'll be cleared up pretty quickly." Oh, and it may have appeared that Ariel was in Storybrooke in that Comic-Con teaser, but the producers say that she'll actually be in Neverland. Source
How will they rescue Henry on Once Upon a Time? —Jennie
NATALIE: Snow White and Prince Charming will find themselves trying to set a good and noble example for their daughter Emma when they head to Neverland, lest she turn to other means to get Henry back. "If the Queen's got a better way to get Henry that may break the law, so be it. It's prison rules," says executive producer Adam Horowitz. That will be difficult for Snow, who is still struggling with her blackened heart. "This year, it's about finding the hope," he adds. "It's the hope that Snow White always brought to us. She's the light. I think she's going to see a lot of darkness and realize that the best thing she can do is return the light to not just her, but to get daughter and her husband." Source
theOUATspoiler: Can you ask the Once Upon a Time creators for a clue to who Tinkerbell has the special connection with that they mentioned at Comic Con?
Because we're in such a magical mood, we're going to sprinkle a little extra fairy dust on this answer! We recently caught up with the enchanted Once Upon a Time creators Eddy Kitsis and Adam Horowitz and they spilled that the newly cast Tinkerbell will have a connection to not one, but two characters aboard the Jolly Roger! (Cue the applause!) The fellas revealed that the iconic fairy and our swoon-worthy Captain Hook have a complicated Neverland history together, but we're still left guessing at Tink's other tie-in. So who could it be? The obvious choice would be that she's in Rumplestilskin's magical Rolodex, but we think it's going to be a bit more twisted than that. (Perhaps she's Charming's ex-girlfriend?! We kid, we kid!) Source
Question: I’d like to know more about the new season of Once Upon A Time! –Joe
Ausiello: Lost fans just might get a sense of Season 4 deja vu when the Jolly Roger drops anchor in Neverland, and its passengers ultimately face the decision of who to follow. “You’ve got five people on a ship who all think they’re leaders, so we’ll have to see how they react when they face their first obstacle,” series cocreator Eddy Kitsis hints. Adds Adam Horowitz, “Theres certainly some friction, but theres also a shared goal they have to achieve” — finding Henry. “The question is: Will they achieve it together, separately or at all?” Source
Do you have more details on Regina's love interest on Once Upon a Time? — Micah
NATALIE: We'll meet her love interest very early on in the season, which presumably means that he or she hails from Neverland. "It's a side of the character of Regina we've only touched upon in the first two seasons," executive producer Adam Horowitz says. "We're excited to see more of that and more importantly to explore her capacity for love." Does anyone else think she could be paired with him? Source
I’d like some Once Upon a Time scoop — especially about the “Boy Who Never Grew Up.” –Mason
You may be wondering, as I was, why Once‘s Peter Pan is a force “we all should fear”? (Or was Rumple overselling it?) “There’s a history between those two,” series cocreator Adam Horowitz affirms. “There is a big reason why he said if you’re going to be scared of someone, this is the guy to be scared of.” But there is also a degree of professional respect. “When you meet Pan, you’re going to see a very, very, very clever person,” says Eddy Kitsis. “And if there’s one thing Rumple admires, it’s somebody who has game.” Please help us, we are all dying here! What else can you say about Regina’s new love interest/”special someone” on Once Upon a Time? –Ana
Fine, fine. I doubled back with the boys and Horowitz said that this “someone” “becomes a part of the show very quickly” – within the first five episodes – “but in a way that you don’t expect.” Source
Sasha: Any Once Upon a Time spoilers?
We'll meet another one of Peter Pan's Lost Boys In episode 5: Devin, who has been in Neverland a long time and is extremely loyal to season 3's new big bad, but is competitive with his fellow boys as he's often overlooked. Green never looks good on anyone, Devin! Source
Question: Can we look forward to any substantial Snow/Emma scenes in Once Upon a Time Season 3? Also, is Snow finally going to get back to her warrior ways? –Christina
Ausiello: Yes, and thus yes. As mom and daughter brave Neverland together while still adjusting to their family dynamic, “In a lot of ways, Mary Margaret may not be able to bond with Emma, but Bandit Snow and Emma have a lot in common,” notes cocreator Eddy Kitsis. Meaning, going up against Peter Pan and his Lost Boys will bring bow-toting Snow to the fore. “David and Mary Margaret last year were saying, ‘We are both,’” Kitsis reminds. “But this year it’s, ‘We need Snow and Charming.’ That’s what this mission requires.” Source
Will Once Upon a Time explain how Mulan and Aurora helped Philip get his soul back from the wraith, before they found an injured Baelfire? –JJ
In a word, kinda. “We’ll hint at it, but we probably aren’t going to show that [back]story for a while,” says cocreator Eddy Kitsis. For one, it’s not like Neal has reason to raise it as a conversation topic. But more importantly, Kitsis explains, “One of the things about Season 3 is we’ve really tried to focus on the core characters, including the six people on that boat and Neal. We do eventually want to get to that [Philip/wraith] story, but we’re coming out of the gate with the people on that boat.” Is there any way that Once Upon a Time‘s Ariel and Regina already met? Assuming that the “certain mermaid” Regina referred to in Episode 1×12, “Skin Deep,” was Ariel? –Mirza
I suspect you are onto something, though cocreator Adam Horowitz will only say that “we might” flash back to that aforementioned encounter during JoAnna Garcia’s turn as the Little Mermaid. Source. Now that Once Upon a Time has cast both Ariel and Eric, can you give us anything new on what their story might be? – Jacquelyn
I already slapped my theory onto the news story announcing Eric’s casting, but I can add this: Series cocreator Adam Horowitz, when asked to describe Once’s Ariel in three words, effectively evokes her classic characterization: “Adventurous. Spitfire. Romantic.” And then we joked about how the Little Mermaid had to move to Cleveland, because, well, Adam and I are nerdy Yankee fans. Source
In addition to shooting Season 2 of Revolution, a return to the land of fairy tales is coming for Esposito, who shot a return to Once Upon A Time the week after this interview was conducted. "I'm excited to go back," he says. "I think we have a character who still is very much in love with the Queen and doesn't understand why he's been in the dungeon for so long. I'm excited to be the Mirror. The Mirror, to me, is a little bit slicker than Sidney, and gives us clues into the eventuality of what relationships could be on that show. So, I can't tell you too much, but I hope to keep returning to that show, if we can have it work out." (Source)
Will Once Upon a Time fans see how Regina adopted Henry this season? –Ishan
“Yes,” series cocreator Adam Horowitz confirms. “Before our Christmas break, we plan to show the why and the how of how baby Henry came to his new mother.” Source
Storybrookecity: Need some OUAT scoop!
Let's focus on season three's big bad Peter Pan, shall we? We will learn how he became the twisted person he is today and some familiar names will definitely factor in, like Tinkerbell, who we will meet in episode three. "We try to have a spin on it that's a little different than what you expect, and also there's a connection to some of our characters that you've already met," Adam Horowitz teases. "And as for the Darlings, they're so integral to the Peter Pan story. We have not forgotten about them and there is a connection and a tie into what we're doing with them as well." Source
Question: Will Once Upon a Time‘s Snow, Charming et al rely on Hook’s expertise of Neverland while searching for Henry? –JJ
Ausiello: Hook’s familiarity with Pan’s ‘hood indeed proves helpful and thus finds him leading the group through the jungle — at first. Alas, no sooner does the pirate save Charming from a fatally “thorny” situation does he realize that Neverland has changed, for the worse, in the maaaaany years since he last visited. What then? Let’s just say they take a cue from Dora. Source
When will Neal and Emma be reunited on Once Upon a Time? —Anna
NATALIE: It's going to be a while, Anna. We actually won't even see Neal & Co. this week, but Episode 3 will bring us back to the Enchanted Forest. "Neal is going to, come hell or high water, get back to Neverland," executive producer Edward Kitsis says, but Adam Horowitz adds that there will be a "wrinkle" in their story that will be revealed soon. Thankfully, Neal will find help in Robin Hood, who will repay his debt to Rumple via Neal. "Robin Hood's story is just beginning," says Kitsis. "We're airing in two 11-episode pods. You're going to get a little more into him in the beginning of this year, but we're definitely going to get a lot of him in the second half. He's a character we're really excited about because he's a thief, but he's a thief with honor." Does that mean I was right? Source
Thomas: I have a OUAT question. Can you tell us why Peter Pan wants the heart of a true believer? What can belief do?
Five points to you, as executive producer Adam Horowitz is glad people are asking that very question. "What we didn't want to do was do a villain who just wants world domination and wants to do something terrible," he explains. "What we wanted was someone who had a really character-based motivation for why belief was important to him and why the truest believer was important to him. That's the story we're going to unfurl in these first 11 [episodes]." Source
I was wondering if you knew if (or when) Once Upon a Time‘s Neal would go to Neverland? Based on some cast photos that were tweeted, it looked like he might show up there. –Allie
Or, Michael Raymond-James was just photo bombing his pals on their own set…? Because Neal’s road home will not be an easy one. “This show never seems to be short in the obstacles department,” Raymond-James shares. “It’s one of those things where the answer to one problem usually leads to seven more problems that one needs to overcome. So there’s some tough sledding ahead, I’ll say that.” How has Once Upon a Time‘s Emma not questioned or had a glimmer of hope that Neal might have been saved? –ratinhos
Fair point. So we asked Jennifer Morrison if Emma might start to somehow “sense” that Neal survived his portal plunge. But she maintained, “They have no sense in Neverland what happened with Neal.” And as for Emma’s instincts, “Because of everything she has been through — and especially having been through so much loss with Neal — for her own sanity, she has to assume that he is dead.” Any clues on Regina’s Once Upon a Time love interest? –Natalie
You think you’re anxious to meet Regina’s romantic interest? How about poor Lana Parrilla, who when we saw her on the set Thursday had yet to start shooting that storyline. But with an eye on it, she said, “I’m like, ‘What?! I don’t think she’s kissed anyone in like 200 years.’ Well, [except for] the Huntsman. But there is something coming up. And I will say: Regina has not met him. But maybe the audience has.” Source
JMO was in LA yesterday. I hope she goes back to set today, when the journalists are there...
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"Hook is the first person who hasn't let her down. He's always been good to her and shown up for her. That's been her biggest issue with how many times she's been abandoned and left behind, and Hook shows up for her." ~ Jennifer Morrison
RumplestiltskinBelle. "Love only brought me pain. My walls were up. But you brought them down. You brought me home. You brought light into my life and chased away all the darkness" ~ Rumplestiltskin
All they do every day is think about how to get Rose McGowan back? Seriously? Because the audience just loved the Cora/Rumple romance so much? I'm sure there are fans. But all the people they have already on the show that don't get airtime and this is what they worry about? I apologize to those who like her. We all have different opinions on things. But the Cora/Rumple relationship was soooo unpopular I don't see the reason behind more flashbacks.
I would like see more Maleficent though. She's one of the classic Disney villains. And even though I wasn't crazy about the story last year, I would like to see more of Aurora also.
I think they're being smart with the limited sneak peaks and photos they're releasing for the episodes.
Did I read somewhere that they were doing something with The PIed Piper this year?
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All they do every day is think about how to get Rose McGowan back? Seriously? Because the audience just loved the Cora/Rumple romance so much? I'm sure there are fans. But all the people they have already on the show that don't get airtime and this is what they worry about? I apologize to those who like her. We all have different opinions on things. But the Cora/Rumple relationship was soooo unpopular I don't see the reason behind more flashbacks.
I would like see more Maleficent though. She's one of the classic Disney villains. And even though I wasn't crazy about the story last year, I would like to see more of Aurora also.
I think they're being smart with the limited sneak peaks and photos they're releasing for the episodes.
Did I read somewhere that they were doing something with The PIed Piper this year?
For me the only reason I'd want to see a young Cora is to see how Rumple met a baby regina, and if something mroe happened to make them despise each other.
I kind of got the impression that Pan and the pied piper were a bit of the same thing. Luring children away from familes.
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RumplestiltskinBelle. "Love only brought me pain. My walls were up. But you brought them down. You brought me home. You brought light into my life and chased away all the darkness" ~ Rumplestiltskin
All they do every day is think about how to get Rose McGowan back? Seriously?
Eddy was exaggerating, he always does that. They already mentioned last season that they have a story in mind for young Cora that they would want her to return for in the future and Rose herself confirmed this again a while ago at a convention. My guess is that it's something that'll come into play during the second half of the season and they're (understandably) not ready and willing to reveal details about that, hence Eddy playing coy.
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But all the people they have already on the show that don't get airtime and this is what they worry about? I apologize to those who like her. We all have different opinions on things. But the Cora/Rumple relationship was soooo unpopular I don't see the reason behind more flashbacks.
Cora is dead. All we'll see of Rose are a handful of flashbacks. I admit I'm not sure why that's such a big deal? It's not any different from Rumple's father or someone from Hook's backstory appearing in an episode or two to shed more light on their pasts.
Cora has strong ties to at least two of the show's core characters and their past, she is the Queen of Hearts and had her hands in what happened in the Enchanted Forest during the 28 years of the course. (Although they did say they'll leave Wonderland to the spin-off this season and this is obviously something they'd get Barbara Hershey for and not Rose McGowan.) They don't bring her back to pander to Cora/Rumple shippers or to piss Belle fans off, they continue to write for her because she is a very important piece of the puzzle when it comes to at the very least Regina and Rumple and it's been established that she knows and figured into other stories too.
I'm sorry if some don't like her and I understand that, but Cora is so much more than one half of a Rumple pairing. She's of importance for the show on more than one level.
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I would like see more Maleficent though. She's one of the classic Disney villains. And even though I wasn't crazy about the story last year, I would like to see more of Aurora also.
Yup, totally agreed. I'm still hoping for a proper "Sleeping Beauty" episode, but so far all they've hinted at when it comes to Maleficent is an appearance in the spin-off.
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but she kept her balance and opened her eyes again,
with an infinite beautiful sadness in them.
Cora is dead. All we'll see of Rose are a handful of flashbacks. I admit I'm not sure why that's such a big deal? It's not any different from Rumple's father or someone from Hook's backstory appearing in an episode or two to shed more light on their pasts.
Cora has strong ties to at least two of the show's core characters and their past, she is the Queen of Hearts and had her hands in what happened in the Enchanted Forest during the 28 years of the course. (Although they did say they'll leave Wonderland to the spin-off this season and this is obviously something they'd get Barbara Hershey for and not Rose McGowan.) They don't bring her back to pander to Cora/Rumple shippers or to piss Belle fans off, they continue to write for her because she is a very important piece of the puzzle when it comes to at the very least Regina and Rumple and it's been established that she knows and figured into other stories too.
I'm sorry if some don't like her and I understand that, but Cora is so much more than one half of a Rumple pairing. She's of importance for the show on more than one level.
I understand that she has fans, and I don't mean any disrespect. I just wasn't crazy when they did this on Lost either, show so much backstory for characters that were dead. But I don't mean any offense to the people who want to see more of her. It just hit me the wrong way this early in the morning.
I just have a feeling it's going to show more of this Cora/Rumple romance, and my point was, at least online, that was really not well liked at all. But they'll do what they want to do.
I want a real Sleeping Beauty episode also. I've gotten to like Sarah Bolger in other things and would like to see more of her.
Eddy was exaggerating, he always does that. They already mentioned last season that they have a story in mind for young Cora that they would want her to return for in the future and Rose herself confirmed this again a while ago at a convention. My guess is that it's something that'll come into play during the second half of the season and they're (understandably) not ready and willing to reveal details about that, hence Eddy playing coy.
Cora is dead. All we'll see of Rose are a handful of flashbacks. I admit I'm not sure why that's such a big deal? It's not any different from Rumple's father or someone from Hook's backstory appearing in an episode or two to shed more light on their pasts.
Cora has strong ties to at least two of the show's core characters and their past, she is the Queen of Hearts and had her hands in what happened in the Enchanted Forest during the 28 years of the course. (Although they did say they'll leave Wonderland to the spin-off this season and this is obviously something they'd get Barbara Hershey for and not Rose McGowan.) They don't bring her back to pander to Cora/Rumple shippers or to piss Belle fans off, they continue to write for her because she is a very important piece of the puzzle when it comes to at the very least Regina and Rumple and it's been established that she knows and figured into other stories too.
I'm sorry if some don't like her and I understand that, but Cora is so much more than one half of a Rumple pairing. She's of importance for the show on more than one level.
Yup, totally agreed. I'm still hoping for a proper "Sleeping Beauty" episode, but so far all they've hinted at when it comes to Maleficent is an appearance in the spin-off.
many good points..
thank you
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RumplestiltskinBelle. "Love only brought me pain. My walls were up. But you brought them down. You brought me home. You brought light into my life and chased away all the darkness" ~ Rumplestiltskin
Eddy was exaggerating, he always does that. They already mentioned last season that they have a story in mind for young Cora that they would want her to return for in the future and Rose herself confirmed this again a while ago at a convention. My guess is that it's something that'll come into play during the second half of the season and they're (understandably) not ready and willing to reveal details about that, hence Eddy playing coy.
Cora is dead. All we'll see of Rose are a handful of flashbacks. I admit I'm not sure why that's such a big deal? It's not any different from Rumple's father or someone from Hook's backstory appearing in an episode or two to shed more light on their pasts.
Cora has strong ties to at least two of the show's core characters and their past, she is the Queen of Hearts and had her hands in what happened in the Enchanted Forest during the 28 years of the course. (Although they did say they'll leave Wonderland to the spin-off this season and this is obviously something they'd get Barbara Hershey for and not Rose McGowan.) They don't bring her back to pander to Cora/Rumple shippers or to piss Belle fans off, they continue to write for her because she is a very important piece of the puzzle when it comes to at the very least Regina and Rumple and it's been established that she knows and figured into other stories too.
I'm sorry if some don't like her and I understand that, but Cora is so much more than one half of a Rumple pairing. She's of importance for the show on more than one level.
Eddy was exaggerating, he always does that. They already mentioned last season that they have a story in mind for young Cora that they would want her to return for in the future and Rose herself confirmed this again a while ago at a convention. My guess is that it's something that'll come into play during the second half of the season and they're (understandably) not ready and willing to reveal details about that, hence Eddy playing coy.
Yes, and anyway they do the same thing when they're asked about Sebastian Stan. It's just being courteous, saying they loved the actor when asked about it. Like for example Adam did it the other day on Twitter about the actress who played the mermaid!
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Cora is dead. All we'll see of Rose are a handful of flashbacks. I admit I'm not sure why that's such a big deal? It's not any different from Rumple's father or someone from Hook's backstory appearing in an episode or two to shed more light on their pasts.
Cora has strong ties to at least two of the show's core characters and their past, she is the Queen of Hearts and had her hands in what happened in the Enchanted Forest during the 28 years of the course. (Although they did say they'll leave Wonderland to the spin-off this season and this is obviously something they'd get Barbara Hershey for and not Rose McGowan.) They don't bring her back to pander to Cora/Rumple shippers or to piss Belle fans off, they continue to write for her because she is a very important piece of the puzzle when it comes to at the very least Regina and Rumple and it's been established that she knows and figured into other stories too.
I'm sorry if some don't like her and I understand that, but Cora is so much more than one half of a Rumple pairing. She's of importance for the show on more than one level.
Agree Anyway, Emilie is a regular and Rose will be in a couple more episodes at most, so I don't see the big deal.
Personally, I hope, if they can't get Barbara back for OUATIW, they get Rose, and explain it like Cora can change her physical appearance. I just wanna see more Rose!
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That's the same impression I have - that they're kind of combining those two stories into one.
Tftnt!
I didn't even honestly think of it that way. That could be right. I guess I was just thinking of them as two separate characters. I personally think the Pied Piper should have his own story though.
I wonder if they'll ever do more characters like Frankenstein, that aren't really fairytale characters, like Dracula, Sherlock Holmes, the Headless Horseman, that kind of thing.
Cora is dead. All we'll see of Rose are a handful of flashbacks. I admit I'm not sure why that's such a big deal? It's not any different from Rumple's father or someone from Hook's backstory appearing in an episode or two to shed more light on their pasts.
I agree. There's still more of the young Cora story to tell that should have very little to do with any "romance" between her and Rumple. As a Rumple/Rumbelle fan I've had very few issues with how Crumple played out onscreen*; the only annoyance is how Eddy talks about Cora, but he says SO much obvious crap that I'm just learning to tune him out. Womp womp womp.
* Quibble: Wish it hadn't been a red rose that Rumple put on her coffin. What's wrong with a white rose?
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I kind of got the impression that Pan and the pied piper were a bit of the same thing. Luring children away from familes.
See: Grand Unified Neverland Theory.
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I wonder if they'll ever do more characters like Frankenstein, that aren't really fairytale characters, like Dracula, Sherlock Holmes, the Headless Horseman, that kind of thing.
Since most of those stories are being better handled by other shows, I hope not. (PLEASE NO SHERLOCK HOLMES.) Although if they ever visit the Land Without Color it could be home to vampires and ghosties and ghoulies.
Last edited by Violet Faust; 10-03-2013 at 06:18 AM
Cora is dead. All we'll see of Rose are a handful of flashbacks. I admit I'm not sure why that's such a big deal? It's not any different from Rumple's father or someone from Hook's backstory appearing in an episode or two to shed more light on their pasts.
Cora has strong ties to at least two of the show's core characters and their past, she is the Queen of Hearts and had her hands in what happened in the Enchanted Forest during the 28 years of the course. (Although they did say they'll leave Wonderland to the spin-off this season and this is obviously something they'd get Barbara Hershey for and not Rose McGowan.) They don't bring her back to pander to Cora/Rumple shippers or to piss Belle fans off, they continue to write for her because she is a very important piece of the puzzle when it comes to at the very least Regina and Rumple and it's been established that she knows and figured into other stories too.
I'm sorry if some don't like her and I understand that, but Cora is so much more than one half of a Rumple pairing. She's of importance for the show on more than one level.
Yup, totally agreed. I'm still hoping for a proper "Sleeping Beauty" episode, but so far all they've hinted at when it comes to Maleficent is an appearance in the spin-off.
Great point!!
Personally I thought the Cora/Rumple romance was well received among the audience It was clear it happened in the past and Rose/Robert did have chemistry. Also, I don't think it alters Rumbelle at all since Belle only came in much later and Rumple would have never let Belle for Cora.
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