vaberella

Actually the direction of the show makes his connection to Laurel useless. Let me explain for you to grasp what they have done and that is if they walk with it. I mean if they don't walk with it, then it's a waste and I would say tie her to the most subpar character in creation on a tv show. <go ahead and , but you know I hate her and will dig when I can>

But let's say they don't. Let's say they share the same way of thinking when they saw the jewel they made out of Thea's character. Thea's character was pointless to say the least and just plain annoying at beast. Last season she just always reminded me of a chihuahua, but she easily faded to the background so meh.

However, at the end of S2, by having Merlyn take "train" and build a "relationship" with her is brilliant. If they had not kiled Merlyn but had let the issues between him and Laurel, and Oliver to build over S2...then the entire S3 would make Tommy Merlyn the rival big bad and just move the Atom to S4. But that didn't happen.

You bring Tommy back and due to the intricacies of the Lazarus Pit of leading people to madness, it is unlikely that if Tommy is alive by some way shape or form he's the same Tommy as before. He will also have a grudge against two people....for instance his last breath was to tell Oliver he was a killer. And if he was alive during early S2 and roaming around Starling City ( which wouldn't surprise me) he'd have seen two of his little buddies moving together. Laurel proved in parts of S1 and parts of S2 she never loved Tommy.

But Tommy's issue will be first and foremost his father and now the fact he has a sister. That means that Laurel would take a backseat to a warped familly dynamic. What is Laurel's significance to this story of family that is pervading all of Thea and Merlyn's story. So that Tommy will be intimately tied to this. If nuts now, what does he think about having Thea as a sister. What does he think about how far his father has gone? Especially since I'm of the mind to think that if Tommy's alive he'll have to do with Merlyn in some way shape or form. What does he think of a man he formerly saw as a brother, who slept with a woman he loved (who supposedly loved him but jumped ex's bones during their "break" with a quickness) actually be tied to him through this sister? There is also the issue that was Thea born during the same time as his mother being alive? I'm not sure, maybe or maybe not. How much did his father truly claim to love his mother? On and on that goes.

The point is, that the family and LoA (Lazarus Pit) storyline will really be the important ties to Tommy's story more so than Laurel could ever be. Their relationship is not exciting or relevant to the crux of the identity stories.

Thanks for letting me know. See, I thought she would have seen Tommy, especially since she kept ties with Nyssa and did go back to Nanda Parbat during S2 before returning to help Oliver take out Slade. Then she leaves again and comes back in S3. But I felt she had time to see who and what was up before the end of S2.


Nope, Felicity has shared hard truths with Oliver. I never bought Tommy and Laurel as believable to run with it. For those who think this is just pure Laurel hate. It's not. I never bought Thea and Roy either. I liked Laurel with Blood more, surprisingly.

DorothyRules

Well, I'm glad that the producers and writers recognized a severely toxic relationship and veered away from it. Oh, and I'm also glad that the producers and the network executives realized what an asset Emily Bett Rickards would be to Arrow.

So glad that everyone has something to be happy about.

vaberella

I was thinking the same thing as this was my response below:

I'm glad they at least listen to the fandom on who has great chemistry with who and works well romantically on screen and what makes up the team. Win/Win I guess.

LadyChaos

I am glad too...but we probably have Greg Berlanti to thank for it

scorpio_chick

Yes, thank goodness for EBR, the savior! I really don't know how the show could have gone on without her.

But really, I'd like to thank the person who spared Flash fans from MG's shameless pandering, trolling and subpar storytelling. We certainly dodged a bullet there!

So basically, you think the writers are incapable of interweaving multiple plots, storylines and dynamics? That someone would have to take a backseat and conveniently, that would be Laurel? lol

Listen, I think it's rather obvious that this show suffers from a lack of creativity, good pacing and nuance. Nevertheless, the writers would get no pass from me for erasing/downplaying Laurel's significance to Tommy. That would just be bad storytelling, something I'll never co-sign.

LadyChaos

The only part of this show I actually have a problem with, and think the writers struggle with, is LL. I think if she left the show would be just fine.

IBelieveInMiracles

^Pretty much. I know I wouldn't miss her. Unfortunately she's probably not going anywhere, But Tommy coming back alive would probably help me like her more. He made her more likeable.

scorpio_chick

I think the writers are struggling with a lot, actually. Bad pacing, underwhelming stories, marginalization of Diggle, lackluster, rushed romance. Laurel is hardly the main problem this season, IMO. I actually think the writers have done a good job with her so far...that is, when they've given her screentime. The only strong points to me have been The Magician episode, the crossover with Captain Boomerang and Nyssa and Ra's, who of course haven't been on much.

IBelieveInMiracles

^Sorry if I dp but i just had to say I think this makes a lot of sense and I agree. And It's not that two people with similar personalities can't have successful relatonshps, its what two people actually get out of the relationship. And with O/L at least, they have nothing to give each other or teach other in a romantic relationship. They would never be able to help each other grow and be the best version of themselves. They are doomed to just get stuck in a rut and be stuck in the past instead of moving forward. It just wouldn't be a beneficial relationship to either of them. They have nothing the other needs or wants in life. They would hinder each other's growth just by the nature of being wrong for each other. Bring each other down and eventualy sap the life out of each other is all I see happening with these. They both need (and want) things that they just can't give each other. That's why I think O/L will never work ever again (and never really worked in the first place).

kabous

Well, to be fair, there are quite a lot of people that could say the same about Felicity. Or Diggle. Or Roy. Or Thea. Or Quentin. Or Moira. Or pretty much anyone who isn't Oliver.

There are Laurel fans out there who like her on the show and who are looking forward to her becoming the Black Canary. There are also Arrow fans who do not care about the Olicity romance.

Different people watch for different reasons.

I personally could watch Arrow without Felicity in it.

semmanclana

Ugh when will we have the extended trailer. I need to see Laurel in costume!!!!

falling slowly

I'm so excited to see her in costume too. Katie will look amazing!

falling slowly

I just want OL and Laurel scenes.

Katiesocks

Well Oliver will be gone for four episodes so there won't be any OL scenes for a while lol. (Or Oliver and anyone)

Hipkarrma

True that. Well, except for flashbacks. Hello Hong Kong and extended hiatus due to lack of interest and refusal to support storylines that I have zero interest in .