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Arrow S&S #105: "...only the Arrow, Al Sah-him, shall remain. Al Sah-him, Heir to the Demon."
After a violent shipwreck, billionaire playboy Oliver Queen was missing and presumed dead for five years before being discovered alive on a remote island called Lian Yu. Oliver returned home to Starling City to his devoted mother Moira, much-beloved sister Thea, his old friend, Tommy Merlyn, and ex-flame Laurel Lance. However they sense Oliver has been changed by his ordeal on the island. Oliver secretly creates the persona of the Arrow – a vigilante – to right the wrongs of his family, fight the ills of society, and save his Starling City. 3x21: Al Sah-him Airdate:April 29, 2015 Description:THE LEAGUE OF ASSASSINS SETS THEIR SITES ON NYSSA — Oliver (Stephen Amell) goes through a rigorous transformation. The League of Assassins sets their sites on Nyssa (guest star Katrina Law), who is back in Starling City training Laurel (Katie Cassidy). When Nyssa realizes they are coming, she arms up to face them alone but Laurel asks Felicity (Emily Bett Rickards) and Diggle (David Ramsey) to help protect her new friend. Thor Freudenthal directed the episode withstory by Beth Schwartz and teleplay by Brian Ford Sullivan & Emilio Ortega Aldrich (#321). Spoilers: 3x22: This Is Your Sword Airdate:May 6, 2015 Description: Spoilers: 3x23: My Name is Oliver Queen Airdate:May 13, 2015 Description: Spoilers: Arrow Related GIFs and Spoiler Links: GIFs and Links Arrow S & S 36 Season 3 Spoilers (Articles/SDCC & IGN Interviews) Articles: Videos: ALL SDCC 2014 Arrow Interviews SDCC: Stepen Amell, Colton Haynes, John Barrowman, Paul BlackThorne, & Greg Berlanti Interviews Past Threads: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71,72, 73, 74,75, 76,77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86*, 87, 88^, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104 * This was where the incorrect numbers started. 86 is it's correct number, but the page has it at 85. ^ signifies the end of the title number. Page 89 is titled and numbered correctly. Twitters: Regular Cast: Stephen Amell Katie Cassidy David Ramsey Emily Bett Rickards Colton Haynes Willa Holland John Barrowman Major Guest Stars/Recurring Characters: Brandon Routh (Ray Palmer) Caity Lotz (Sara Lance/The Canary) Charlotte Ross (Donnna Smoak) Cynthia Addai-Robinson (Amanda Waller) J.R. Ramirez (Ted Grant) Karl Yune ( Maseo Yamashiro) Michael Rowe (Floyd Lawton/Deadshot) Former Major Guest Stars/Recurring Characters: Bex Taylor-Klaus (Sin) Colin Donnell (Tommy Merlyn) Colin Salmon (Walter Steele) Manu Benett (Slade Wilson/DeathStroke) Network/Crew: A.J. Kreisberg Greg Berlanti Marc Guggenheim Arrow Production Office ArrowWritersRoom CW_Arrow CW Network DC Comics WB Entertainment The series stars Stephen Amell as Oliver Queen, Katie Cassidy as Laurel Lance, David Ramsey as John Diggle, Emily Bett Rickards as Felicity Smoak, Willa Holland as Thea Queen, Colton Hayes as Roy Harper and Paul Blackthorne as Detective Quentin Lance. Based on characters appearing in comic books and graphic novels published by DC Comics, ARROW is from Bonanza Productions Inc. in association with Berlanti Productions and Warner Bros. Television, with executive producers Greg Berlanti (“Green Lantern,” “Brothers &Sisters”), Marc Guggenheim (“FlashForward,” “Eli Stone”), Andrew Kreisberg (“Warehouse 13,” “The Vampire Diaries”) and David Nutter (“Smallville,” “Supernatural,” “Game of Thrones”). Melissa Kellner Berman (“Eli Stone,” “Dirty Sexy Money”) is co-executive producer. The pilot was directed by David Nutter from a teleplay by Andrew Kreisberg & Marc Guggenheim, story by Greg Berlanti & Marc Guggenheim. __________________
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The episode in general should've centered more around Thea, everyone reacting to her possible death, fight for her soul. Should've been a lot more emotional. The flashbacks should've been shelved. Though the script in general is making me laugh just by the descriptions. Link to the script pages for anyone who has missed them. Page 1 Page 2 Page 2 Last edited by Primal Slayer; 04-25-2015 at 01:50 PM |
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Just for the record, I do know a little bit about how writing works. I know they didn't write long descriptive sentences about the love making scene because they don't need to do so. I know the actors only need basic descriptions/instructions and then the logistics of it are mostly figured out once the scene is acutally being filmed. I was really just kidding around because I mean first they call their kiss to end all kisses and then it's just fragments of sentences and single words to describe what comes next. It just sounded like someone got so excited imagining the scene that they just wrote the random thoughts that popped into their head, lol. But I know it was a purposeful writing choice and how things are normally done. Still love that they called it the kiss to end all kisses. Yes indeed it was. And the sex scene to end all sex scenes, lol. Also regardless of the norms of writing, the showrunners are still definitely Olicity shippers. MG is just obivous about it and AK confirmed it himself with his ultimate shippers statement. No way around that one.
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Of course they dont need long descriptions But the use of "the kiss to end all kisses" "our two lovers-star crossed" is cracking me up!
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I guess they couldn't release it cuz probably wasn't that great.
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The episode was centered around Thea though. Everything that was happening was due to Thea. Just because it wasn't everyone sitting by her beside crying all episode doesn't mean she wasn't the character that the episode gravitated around. Oliver didn't lie to Laurel about Thea just about where they were going because he obviously didn't want her coming.
I still stand by the fact that no Laurel scene is better then what they intended. I mean think about it. You have Laurel looking like the little kid trying to play with the big kids. You have Oliver lying to Laurel about where they are going. This in then followed directly with Felicity thanking Oliver for letting her come and Oliver telling her one of his dark secrets from his past. It would just rub salt in the wounds. And I agree the writers were a little heavy handed with the Olicity love making description however, I think the fact that they call it a "Series moment worth waiting for" is interesting. __________________
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What was happening was DUE to Thea, but was it centered around Thea? Not really, at least in my opinion. And you said that he didn't lie to Laurel but then he did lie to Laurel. It isn't a big thing I would harp on but the lies just keep coming this season, no one ever learns from keeping secrets. We might as well dub them the Pretty Little Arrow Liars.
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^Yeah given the showrunners obvious intentions to go in different direction long before the season 1 finale and that that was basically the end of O/L romantically and that it was tainted by Tommy seeing them, I doubt that script was filled flowery romantic stuff like the 3x20 one.
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^Oh no you weren't patronizing or anything. I just realized I came across very fangirly (which I am not ashamed of, lol) and I just wanted to make it clear that I realized there was more to why the script was written that way than the showrunners shipping Olicity. I just didn't want to seem stupid or like all I care about is Olicity (not that you implied either of those things but Iw as afraid other people might think that) because I am not stupid and I watch Arow for many more reasons than Olicity. It was really just about me not wanting to come across as so much of a Olciity fan girl that I can't understand logical things and common sense. Because that is not me. But anyway you weren't offensive or patronizing or anything. You did nothing wrong, no worries. Feel free to be as excited about scripts as you want.
Also just because it had a huge Olicity moment doesn't mean the episode was about Olicity. But Oliver's side of the story, the sacrifice he was making is super important and was going to be part of the focus of the episode. And his relationship with Felicity is part of that. She represents everything he is giving up. It makes sense to deal with all tha t George he joined the LoA. And I don't think was an afterthought to anyone. She was everyone's main concern but then once she was physically safe and resting, they had to deal with what Oliver was about to have to do. But that doesn't make her an afterthought. I'm not sure exactly what else you wanted them to do in regards to centering it on Thea. To me it felt like it was. Also I'm a huge Olicity fan obviously, but I haven't forgotten the Thea part of the episode at all. Yeah the Olicity moment was huge and amazing and unforgettable but that doesn't make me forget Thea almost died, how Oliver almost lost her but then brought her back with the LP. I haven't forgotten her jumping out of that LP like a rabid monkey or how she woke up later thinking Oliver was dead, her mother was alive, and that she loved MM. I haven't forgotten her confusion when Oliver wasn't leaving with them and the incredibly sad good-bye they had. I haven't forgotten he waking up with her memory back and only MM there in her home. I don't know how anyone could forget what Thea went through in that episode. What went down with her is shaping the rest of the season. Just because people are excited about Olicity doesn't mean they have forgotten about Thea. __________________
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I said that people remember this episode because of Olicity, not that people forgot about it, but the two main things I have seen people talk about when it comes to this episode is Olicity and Laurel being left out. Thea became less important as the episode went on.
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