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Old 05-03-2016, 06:54 PM
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Jason Wiles/Maurice "Bosco" Boscorelli Appreciation Thread #16 ~ The One Who Won't Be Taken



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Jason Wiles: I was always a clown. In the eighth grade I won a city speech contest by doing an Eddie Murphy routine. I'm no good at public speaking, but if I can assume a role and speak as that person, then I'm fine. When I had to give a book report, I always did it in character

(Referring to how Eddie Cibrian beat him in the TV Guide "You Sexy Thing" poll)Jason Wiles: Oh no, I didn't have a chance. Eddie is my close friend, but he is much more beautiful than I am, dimples and all. He blows me out of the water. I'm a scrub next to him."

Jason Wiles: When I first started the show, I was known as the ‘cop nerd.’ I was in the 9th Precinct in the East Village every day. I’d be at work wearing a fake bulletproof vest with foam in it, then I’d leave and put on a real one to ride around with these guys .

(During his first visit to Ground Zero in New York)
Jason Wiles: The chief of police stopped me to say hello and his wife was there saying 'Look who's here! Look who's here!'. I had no idea that this guy would watch the show. That's a pretty big compliment.
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Yes, their future was pretty much lay out for them

All women back then.

Oddly enough, it was Titanic that made me see that.

How Rose, rich (well, having grown up rich) was expected to get married to a rich man, and live the kind of life you described.

It was very disturbing to me seeing that, so I would definitely have trouble with the women, children, going into servitude.
Men had pretty specific roles in life, too.

They had more freedom than women, for sure.

I think that's always going to be true.

But I'm always going to remember that quote from Sense & Sensibility, the movie, when Elinor tells Edward that he'll inherit his fortune, whereas women can't even earn theirs.

Still, you'll remember, in that story, Edward had to please his mother, so he had to do as she wanted.

And Willoughby wound up marrying someone he didn't love because he "needed" her money.
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Old 05-04-2016, 05:14 AM
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That's a great reference for me, on the men, since I've seen that movie so many times.

And sigh, I love it so very much.

That is just an awesome point of reference for me-thank you.

I'd totally forgotten that men had certain roles as well. And demands on them.

Thanks for the new thread. I was thinking of titles all the way through my posting.

I knew it would be at 300, so I was surprised when I couldn't copy the opening post on the other thread.
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The men don't get a whole lot of play in Sense & Sensibility because Jane Austen only wrote about what she knew (her words), so she never wrote scenes where it was just men.

But, if you think about it, even though the women still had it worse, men really didn't have that much choice.

They had more than the women, for sure.

Their brother John Dashwood, for instance, certainly could have done more for them and chose not to.

But then their father absolutely wanted to do more for them and could not.

Edward defied his mother and was left worse off, but not completely destitute.

Women who did something like that wound up like Eliza, Colonel Brandon's childhood love, in the street and dying.
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I guess I felt the men were a means only to tell the women's story, like you said she said.

Well, he chose to let his wife control him

So she, therefore, had more power.

She wasn't the typical woman of back then.
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If she only had power because he let her have it, to me, that's not power.

If her husband had told her "I told my father I'd help my sisters and that's the end of it," there is nothing she could have done about it.

Don't get me wrong, Fanny was rich on her own, so she had about as much power as a woman had back then.

But she was still expected to marry well and bear sons.

Her manipulative nature and her husband's weakness are personality traits, not an aspect of the society they lived in.

We still have manipulative women and weak men today.
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Old 05-06-2016, 11:54 AM
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True.

I hadn't thought of that-that Fanny still had to meet certain expectations.

Just like couples, and people, today,
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Old 05-07-2016, 11:55 AM
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Well, yeah, people still have expectations to deal with.

I guess I just meant that society on the whole is freer for women today than it was 200-250 years ago.

That's all.
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Old 05-08-2016, 03:38 AM
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Oh I got that.

I just connected with Fanny's story there.

They are definitely so much freer.
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We are freer, for sure, as women today as would have been then.
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I think I feel expectations made on me from a lot of sources.

The main this I like, is that in most cases, we have a choice now, if we want to meet those expectations others have.
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I totally agree.

And, at the very basic level of all that, we have the choice to go "these are your expectations, so they're for you."

There is no longer much strenght in social constructs.

Like, some people still believe that, when you get older, what needs to happen is you get a job, get married, buy a house and have kids.

But there are at least as many people, if not more, who believe that things can be different, too.
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That's really it-we have the choices.

Even if, like me, people feel they have to "rebel" against the world.

There really isn't -because so many people have gone different routes that they were expected to.
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People can follow their own path, whether they feel it's the one set before them or one they've set on through "rebellion."

Today, the only issue is whether or not people realize they have that freedom.

Back then, I don't think the world worked that way at all.
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I agree-back then there wasn't the freedom to easily rebel, or easily set their own path.

The people who did, had to be really brave to create the change.
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