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Old 08-18-2017, 07:12 AM
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I like Sophie, she does resemble young jean to what I imagine.
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Old 08-18-2017, 02:58 PM
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Yeah, Sophie's facial features are closer to Jean. Famke never resembled Jean to me. I thought that Famke was another case of Hollywood shoehorning an actor into a role instead of casting one that resembled the character.
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Old 08-18-2017, 03:16 PM
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I think the days of actors in films & TV shows based on comics having to resemble the characters they portray are about over, but I do tend to like when actors that have some resemblance to the characters they are acting as.
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Old 08-18-2017, 03:28 PM
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I think the days of actors in films & TV shows based on comics having to resemble the characters they portray are about over, but I do tend to like when actors that have some resemblance to the characters they are acting as.
I disagree. I think these days the casting is more spot on. Sophie is far closer to Jean than Famke, and I think Henry Cavill looks great as Superman. So does Chris Evans as Captain America and Chris Hemsworth as Thor. Iron Man could do better, though. And they really need to start casting taller actors for Cyclops.
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In those yes, but in other cases they really stick out when the looks are so different as the TV show ''Preacher'' having ''Tulip'' played by an Ethiopian-Irish actress & in the film Constantine'' though I'm a fan of Keanu Reeves it would've been better I think if an actual Englishman would've portrayed ''John Constantine'' & perhaps dyed his hair blonde if possible, though that was only 1 of the differences in that film compared to the comics. Also Halle Berry as ''Catwoman'' & Tom Hardy as ''Bane'' in those Batman films directed by Christopher Nolan didn't really resemble their characters they were portraying much.

I didn't think about casting a taller Cylops. Which film did his height stick out to you?
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In those yes, but in other cases they really stick out when the looks are so different as the TV show ''Preacher'' having ''Tulip'' played by an Ethiopian-Irish actress & in the film Constantine'' though I'm a fan of Keanu Reeves it would've been better I think if an actual Englishman would've portrayed ''John Constantine'' & perhaps dyed his hair blonde if possible, though that was only 1 of the differences in that film compared to the comics. Also Halle Berry as ''Catwoman'' & Tom Hardy as ''Bane'' in those Batman films directed by Christopher Nolan didn't really resemble their characters they were portraying much.
Constantine and Catwoman were a long time ago. There are still plenty of characters who are a fair match between screen and comic. We should never give up demanding faithfulness to the comics.

Halle Berry wasn't playing Selena Kyle (the main Catwoman) anyway and she wasn't Catwoman in the Nolan films -that was Ann Hathaway. Halle Berry played a different Catwoman character in a standalone Catwoman film. The Catwoman that didn't fit was Michelle Pfeiffer in Batman Returns in 1992 -she was blonde. Tom Hardy was genius as Bane, so that's forgivable. Having not seen Preacher or read the Preacher comics, I have no opinion on the topic of Preacher casting, other than to note that Dominic Cooper is not an actor who has impressed me, but Ruth Negga has.
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Cyclops is 6'3" in the comics. Tye Sheridan in X-Men: Apocalypse is noticeably short and James Marsden in the older films was only about average height.
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Old 08-19-2017, 03:56 AM
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Old 08-19-2017, 08:47 AM
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In those yes, but in other cases they really stick out when the looks are so different as the TV show ''Preacher'' having ''Tulip'' played by an Ethiopian-Irish actress & in the film Constantine'' though I'm a fan of Keanu Reeves it would've been better I think if an actual Englishman would've portrayed ''John Constantine'' & perhaps dyed his hair blonde if possible, though that was only 1 of the differences in that film compared to the comics. Also Halle Berry as ''Catwoman'' & Tom Hardy as ''Bane'' in those Batman films directed by Christopher Nolan didn't really resemble their characters they were portraying much.

I didn't think about casting a taller Cylops. Which film did his height stick out to you?
Uhhh... Halle Berry wasn't Catwoman in the Nolan films, canflam. Anne Hathaway was Selina Kyle/Catwoman in the Nolan films, and she was the best thing about TDKR. I agree that Tom Hardy really didn't fit Bane all that well, but TDKR isn't even my favorite Batman film. I didn't care for it really, and I think Nolan seemed tired of the franchise by then. TDK was really the film he wanted to make. But Halle Berry's Catwoman didn't even have anything to do with Batman. Her character was Patience Phillips, a woman given cat-like superpowers from an Egyptian cat god, so that movie really had nothing to do with Batman, Gotham City, or the DC universe. It was pretty much just a typical Hollywood f-up.

And I agree with sum1. Cyclops is supposed to be 6'3" in the comics, and he's an imposing leader with a commanding presence. The movies keep making him into some adolescent beta male, which is ridiculous. How is he supposed to lead the team when they keep casting him the way they do? Oh, and I also agree with sum1 about Michelle Pfeiffer as Selina Kyle in Batman Returns. Catwoman is not a blonde, and she's not someone's secretary. She's supposed to be a raven-haired cat burglar and femme fatale from a noir movie. If I see a blonde woman running around Gotham City in black spandex, I think Black Canary.
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I agee Anne Hathaway was damn good as Catwoman. But I feel The Dark Knight Rises was the best of Nolan's Batman trilogy and Tom Hardy was incredible as Bane.
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Okay, well there's another thing we won't agree on, sum1. But we at least agree that Anne was awesome as Catwoman.

And as I was saying, Anne also fit the character due to her having dark hair. Not as dark as I'd like, but whatever. It's ironic that for most of her career, Anne Hathaway had black hair, which was perfect for Catwoman. But when she finally does play Catwoman her hair is brown? Awww, come on! She was so close! But my point is that I think Hollywood is slowly getting it right more often with the casting, and Sohpie is an example of that with Jean Grey.
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Yes and no with regard to Sophie. Jean Grey is emphatically an American and Sophie comes off very British. However, Sophie is a damn good actress and that makes up for the nationality problem.
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Yes and no with regard to Sophie. Jean Grey is emphatically an American and Sophie comes off very British. However, Sophie is a damn good actress and that makes up for the nationality problem.
Sophie is British, but she played Jean as an American. What, you don't think she pulled off the American accent? I've seen a lot of British and Australian actresses like Kate Beckinsale, Kate Winslet, Cate Blanchett, Naomi Watts, Emily Blunt, and Sienna Miller play American roles very well. Henry Cavill is British and I think he did a great job as Superman.
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Old 08-19-2017, 01:34 PM
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Sophie is British, but she played Jean as an American. What, you don't think she pulled off the American accent? I've seen a lot of British and Australian actresses like Kate Beckinsale, Kate Winslet, Cate Blanchett, Naomi Watts, Emily Blunt, and Sienna Miller play American roles very well. Henry Cavill is British and I think he did a great job as Superman.
There's a lot more to playing a nationality than putting on an accent. Manner, bearing, facial expressions, etc. Sophie plays Jean as British. She's way too British to be able to do anything else. The accent doesn't make any difference. And I don't agree with your list of British actors who played American nationality well. Some British actors can do it. A lot can't.
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Old 08-19-2017, 09:52 PM
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So you can actually tell that Sophie is British by her facial expressions, mannerisms, and body language, even when she's using an American accent?
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Old 08-20-2017, 06:03 AM
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She is rather reserved. Though I think it fits the character because she's usually scared to unleash herself in any way.
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