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Old 11-10-2017, 05:52 AM
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I don't see why Simon Williams can't be in the MCU now. They almost brought him in in Guardians of the Galaxy 2.
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Old 11-10-2017, 07:37 PM
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I don't know why either, but that's Hollywood for you. Look at how Fox wasted Alex Summers. Does it make sense to have Polaris on The Gifted and no Havok?
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Old 11-11-2017, 01:04 PM
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There's no sign they've given up on Simon Williams yet. They just recently brought him back in the comics.
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Old 11-11-2017, 05:29 PM
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Oh, I know he's still in the comics. But I don't trust Marvel Studios yet. If and when they bring Simon into the MCU, it'll probably be after Phase 4, when they recast and retcon stuff, apparently. When Feige says that the Avengers and the MCU will be changed forever after that, I'm taking it that they're gonna refresh.
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Old 11-11-2017, 06:15 PM
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It's not a case of him being still in the comics. It's case of them bringing him back in the comics this year after he'd vanished three years ago.
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Old 11-11-2017, 06:26 PM
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Oh, I know, but he did that before. Simon "died" and turned into pure ionic energy until Wanda resurrected him. And he died way before that as well, back in the 60's. Dude is resilient.
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Yeah, he's had more resurrections than Jean Grey.
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:14 PM
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Well, I think Jean is still the queen of resurrection. But I'm not sure if Simon can die, to be honest. He just becomes pure energy or something. But I'm glad the comics have kept him around. I just wish they'd give him a better storyline. I really liked him back in the 80's. And just get him with Wanda already. I don't really like her and Vision.
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:22 PM
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I'm ok with either ship.
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:42 PM
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I was okay with Vision and Wanda until they did that thing where she used her hex power to get pregnant and have her twins. Then they had someone kidnap Vison and took him apart, then put him back together again, and he was even colder and more unemotional after that. I lost interest by then.
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That was John Byrne who kidnapped Vision. Pissed me off.
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Really? Damn. That was his stint on West Coast Avengers, right? That's when they brought back Jim Hammond, the original(and still my favorite) Human Torch.
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Old 11-12-2017, 06:22 PM
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Yeah. He brought back the Human Torch after he retconned away the 1970s story that said Vision was the Human Torch's body. That pissed me off. Byrne is a talented writer, but he can get a bit arrogant messing around with stuff that's stood the test of time and generally screwing things around. He ruined Vision utterly in his stint on the Avengers books and it took years for Marvel to repair the damage. He also mucked around with Wanda a lot and retconned too many things for my liking. Nonetheless, his run (drawing and writing West Coast Avengers and writing Avengers) , included a lot of high quality stuff. It was a pretty strong run. I just wish he had more respect for what others had done before him.
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Old 11-12-2017, 06:33 PM
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Yeah, I agree to a certain extent. But I actually did prefer Jim and Vision being two different androids because I never really bought that storyline about Vision being made from Jim Hammond's body given how different their respective abilities were. It seemed like that was a retcon in itself due to Marvel having made a new Human Torch with Johnny Storm and not knowing what to do with their original one. But I think it could've been done better. They didn't have to be so convoluted with the retconning.

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Spider-Woman was born Jessica Miriam Drew, daughter of Jonathan Drew and Merriam Drew, in London, England. At a young age, her family moves to a lab built by her father and Herbert Wyndham near Mount Wundagore in Transia, where she becomes gravely ill from months of uranium exposure. To save her life, her father injects her with an experimental serum based on irradiated spiders' blood. Because the serum requires a month's incubation, Wyndham places her in a genetic accelerator. Shortly after, her mother dies and her father leaves for the United States, leaving Wyndham to care for her. While in the accelerator, she ages at a decelerated rate. When she is finally released, decades later, Drew is only 17 years old.

Drew is ostracized by the other residents of Mount Wundagore, the High Evolutionary's New Men, since she was originally human while they were animals. Because of this, she eventually leaves to seek human civilization. She is captured by a HYDRA reserve unit under Count Otto Vermis's leadership who erases her memories, brainwashes her, and recruits her as a HYDRA agent under the codename Arachne. One of HYDRA's top agents, Jared, is assigned to train her in combat and espionage, and to seduce her. Once Jessica has become his lover, he allows himself to be captured by S.H.I.E.L.D., so that she can be goaded into assassinating S.H.I.E.L.D. commander Nick Fury.

While battling Fury, Jessica accidentally kills Jared and learns HYDRA's true nature. She quits HYDRA and assaults the unit's base, sending Count Vermis into a fatal crash, but not before he unlocks memory implants that she was actually an evolved spider and had killed a man before her association with HYDRA. Despondent from these revelations, she wanders the woods where Vermis crashed until being recaptured and hypnotised by HYDRA.

Spider-Woman: Origin

Origin does away with the spider-blood serum and genetic accelerator elements of the character's previous origin story. Instead, Jessica's powers derive from her mother's womb being hit by a laser beam containing the DNA traits of several different species of spiders while she was carrying Jessica (the Drews were trying to splice and harness spiders' environmental adaptive capabilities, in order to graft them into the human genome).

After Jessica's parents disappear under mysterious circumstances, Jessica is recruited into HYDRA (under false pretenses), where she is made into a formidable fighter and assassin. She is trained and mentored by Taskmaster, who schools her in many martial disciplines and more than seven different fighting styles out of his own "arsenal".

In this re-telling, Otto Vermis, originally recruiting her into HYDRA, is rather an old, retired HYDRA agent who Jessica seduces in order to gain information that will lead her to her mother.

In addition, Origin made the following modifications:
Merriem Drew was now Miriam Drew.
The Drews moved to Wundagore Mountain prior to Jessica's conception, establishing without a doubt that she was born on the European landmark. Afterwards, she was raised by her nanny Bova (human in appearance), as well as her mother.
Jessica's father, Jonathan, never found uranium on their land. Instead, their research was funded by HYDRA, and their direct liaison/financier from the group was General Wyndham. It is not clear what connection, if any, he had with Edgar Wyndham (who in the original Spider-Woman books was Jonathan's best friend and research partner), nor with the High Evolutionary.
Jessica's father worked in large part with Miles Warren who later left the project because he felt that there was more potential in experimenting with the cloning of human cells.
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Well she used to be a bleedin' spider.
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