MarvelousToons

Yes, that's why I'm launching a Marvel Universe/Multiverse controlled by the fans. This way, we can create story arcs with more insightful vision and care into developing these characters.

In my story, Cyclops is damaged by past experiences, and despite having good leadership skills, and being a great team motivator, it clouts his judgement from time to time. And those mistakes sometimes lead to extreme problems later on. And even when he tries to make the right choices, sometimes it still doesn't work out. And that's what makes him relatable, and understandable as a character. Rather than make him an @$$hole in so many occasions.

That plot for the Phoenix Trilogy I sent, actually contains an example of that. I didn't detail Cyclops' role in full, but can definitely do so, if interested

dragonfire

No problem.

https://www.cbr.com/x-men-stepford-c...marvel-comics/

PhoenixRising

That should be a longer list, dragonfire.

That's awesome. That's kind of what I've been doing with my reworking of the MCU, making it into a more structured and self-contained six volume cinematic miniseries built around the Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy, with Adam Warlock as the actual main protagonist.

Yes! Thank you for getting Cyclops right. This is they guy I remember from the 1980s. And I'm still getting through that whole PM you sent me.

sum1

Mutant Liberation Front. Stryfe's stooges. Stryfe was cool, but the MLF were eejits.

MarvelousToons

Yeah like, Adam Warlock plays a major role into our series. Aamof he's the one who introduces what the Infinity Gems are into our series. While he isn't the "main" main protagonist, he is a central character playing up to the Phoenix Trilogy, and he's one of a collective few that brings down Thanos.

Yes, I hope to do good justice to Cyclops' character, esp when the Phoenix returns, Rachel comes into play, and stuff like that. To me, the writers too often don't know WHAT to do with awesome characters. Like Matthew Malloy for example.

No sweat I hadn't the chance to read your post either in proper detail, but I'm doing it

PhoenixRising

Oh, lord. That name is a little too on the nose.

Thank you! I'm pissed that Adam Warlock was shafted by the MCU and not even given his rightful place in the Infinity Gauntlet storyline. Wow, having Warlock and Thanos in your Phoenix trilogy seems even tougher than what I was doing with my Avengers Cinematic Miniseries based on the Infinity Saga.

Oh, I like Rachel. She's been totally shut out of the movies. I can't believe they had Kitty Pryde send Wolverine back in time in Days of Future Past and not Rachel.

sum1

Rachel Summers is a great character, but they ruined her this century, particularly by taking away her distinctive facial features. She used to look very like her father and it made her different from run of the mill routine comic book heroines.

MarvelousToons

LOL well... I (and the fandom) are trying to tell our own, unique version of the Infinity Saga, but include the X-Men, Adam Warlock, and the Phoenix Saga as "The Phoenix Trilogy". In order to make it all cohesive, Loki is plays a major role in how Adam Warlock develops as a character, and how he would eventually play a major role, in what becomes the downfall of the Phoenix... and the rise of its new Archrival.

Rachel is someone I'd like to write WITHOUT the Phoenix's involvement. There would come interaction later in her story, but no solid bonding between the two. I'd rather focus on her story and her developing her own powers and character, than make her a replica of her mom. There will be a "Phoenix" to appear, but... it's not gonna really be Rachel, and this Phoenix/host bond would be fairly short lived. I have an interesting story I'm working on for her, in the next major arc, the "Dystopian" Arc.

When I get to redesigning her, I'd definitely fall back more on the original design for inspiration. Not only would it fit better with the aesthetic I'm gonna employ, the original design was more distinguished.

dragonfire

https://screenrant.com/xmen-swords-e...l-comics-list/

PhoenixRising

Thanks, dragonfire! That sounds like X-Men meets Game of Thrones.

I agree, sum1. Oh, you know why Marvel does all that these days. They have an agenda now instead of just pure storytelling.

That all sounds awesome. I'll admit, trying to tie Warlock, Thanos, Loki, and all of that stuff into the Phoenix Saga is something I don't know if I'd try. I'd probably have an aneurism figuring all that out.

Oh, that sounds interesting what you have planned for Rachel. I do think she's an underused character.

dragonfire

No problem.

https://screenrant.com/xmen-colossus...family-comics/

sum1

MarvelousToons

LOL I may explain it in a short summary in a PM at some point. It's actually not nearly as complicated as it sounds. But that's why I turned the Phoenix's story into a "trilogy", it gives plenty of room for all those plots to tie into each other.

I didn't like ANY of these Jean Grey "replicants" being paired with the Phoenix, with Hope being my least favorite, and a character I deem is overall totally unnecessary. With Rachel, I do have something special planned, and it started with removing the Phoenix from her story. I'd like to see her take on a leadership position in a turbulent, dystopian scenario, aiding and saving Mutants, while using her developing abilities. She has a hard side due to circumstances, but one that's very soft due to her caring nature. It's something along those lines.

PhoenixRising

Hi, sum1!

Ah, I see. Well, I hope you are able to fit it all into a trilogy. One of the reasons my "corrected" MCU was divided into six volumes is because I've seen trilogies where they try to cram too much stuff into three movies.

Yeah, Hope is that character they introduced before Avengers vs. X-Men. Like they didn't already have Rachel?

That all sounds good. Kinda reminds me of Days of Future Past a little.

dragonfire

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