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Well, see... I don't really think making Batman older makes him more interesting because I've already read Frank Miller's Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, and it's been there, done that. Realistically, the younger Batman is better and makes more sense because he's human and everything he does takes a toll on his body. I prefer the 25 year old Bruce Wayne in Frank Miller's Batman: Year One because it shows how he came to be. And again, what is the sense in having Batman as an aging superhero before the Justice League is even formed? You say it makes him more interesting, but I'm more interested in storytelling logic. And it makes no sense for Batman to be near the end of his career before the JLA is even formed because it makes him redundant. How is Batman supposed to found the Justice League when he'll soon be too old to be a member? Frank Miller had Bruce Wayne retire at 45, and when he came out of retirement at 55 he was far from the superhero he once was. This is why superheroes are young, because for an ordinary man with no powers, his body will wear out like a professional athlete's.
It's just not practical for Bruce to be that old when the Justice League is formed because he'll be too old to be part of it. That's why in the comics the Justice League was formed when everyone was young, and why Bruce and Clark are about the same age. I'm sorry, but it just doesn't make any sense to me otherwise. At the age Ben Affleck's Bruce Wayne is he's pushing 50, and just NOW the JLA is being formed? So much for a long career with the JLA like in the comics. Also, making him the great detective doesn't make him a Mary Sue. It makes him who he is. He's not just a guy who goes around beating up criminals, he's supposed to be a detective. That's why Ra's al Ghul always calls him "detective" instead of Batman. If a filmmaker has to dumb down Bruce Wayne for the story to work, he's not a very good storyteller. I've been reading Batman a long time, and the stories in the comics have always been smarter and more compelling, without having to dumb Bruce down. Just my opinion. And making Batman edgier doesn't mean you have to compromise his principles. Even Frank Miller didn't have him kill anyone. Also, I've never seen Bruce as being "perfect." He's always been a flawed character, yet was always able to overcome his flaws. Being the "great detective" doesn't make him perfect or a Mary Sue, just a great detective. Sherlock Holmes is a great detective, yet hardly a Mary Sue. Is there a copyright issue with Adam Warlock? They did show is cocoon in the first Guardians movie. And all I can say is they'd better get Wonder Man back because I'm tired of Rogue doing this all the time. They can just have her take the powers of some no-name character who they can kill off. Well, I find actors who don't look like the characters a distraction. I wasn't a fan of Kirsten Dunst either, but I'd rather Mary Jane be a redhead than not. Same for Lois Lane and Selina Kyle having dark hair. __________________
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Well they did good casting Anne Hathaway for Selina/Catwoman
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Thanks for the links, LightYears!
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Well, I'll agree to disagree with you, sum1. But even though people are retiring older, people who do strenuous activity still have shorter shelf lives. Professional athletes still reach retirement when they're close to 40 because the body can't take that much punishment for that long. That's why Frank Miller had Bruce Wayne become Batman at age 25, so he'd have a long career ahead of him. But there's one more thing to consider: at the age Ben Affleck is he's not gonna be Batman for long. Robert Downey Jr. only had to wear armor and have CGI do the rest, but Batman is a more physically demanding role. When the next actor takes over he'll probably be much younger, making Snyder's old Batman redundant. Just saying. __________________
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Yea Ben isn't that old yet compared to Stallone
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Stallone is ancient. But he broke his neck working on the Expendables and he just kept on acting.
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But Stallone has been keeping himself in top physical shape for decades. Ben Affleck has never been consistent and has often let himself go, physically. I also don't think Ben will be interested in doing too many Batman movies.
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Ben will keep himself in shape if he can make the big bucks out of playing Batman. I think it could go on for a fair while.
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Yeah, but I don't think his interest will hold out. Ben's not really a comic book guy. And he likes directing now.
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He is a comic book guy. He did Daredevil and he was up for Cyclops.
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Yeah, but Daredevil was horrible. And I remember hearing he was up for Cyclops, but he backed out. I don't really know how much he knows about comics other than what Kevin Smith tells him. To be honest, my two favorite Batman versions are Kevin Conroy's, and the Batman from the Arkham Asylum/Arkham Knight/Arkham Origins games.
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