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Old 10-01-2017, 06:23 PM
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I think its working for some of the people who couldn't get it before but it's totally screwing up everyone else. There has to be some fix they can all agree on but sadly you're right, theyr did take a long time to make this current one and still passed it knowing what was gonna happen.
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Old 10-02-2017, 07:55 AM
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One thing I'm not sure of is if people realize the bill they recently proposed, would cause anyone with pre-existing conditions to have thousands and thousands more added to their deductibles, before insurance would cover anything at all. Up to over $17,000 in deductibles for some conditions.

What they proposed was so drastic, that I think they would have a very hard time coming to any compromise.
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They also wanted the federal government to give the health-care monies to the states who would then be in charge of deciding who's worthy and who's not. Now, I may be wrong, but that felt like asking for trouble to me. It was a situation made in heaven for people passing the buck to the other level "the state denied your healthcare; there's nothing we can do about it" and "we can't give you health care, because the feds didn't give us enough funds" or "we want our guy in Texas to be re-elected, so Texas'll be getting more money this year."



In better news, Puerto Rico prepares for Trump visit after hurricane, which means that, and I quote, "US federal support has surged ahead of a planned visit on Tuesday by President Trump."
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Tillerson denies resignation rumours, but not 'moron' remark

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Old 10-05-2017, 12:41 PM
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That one is a classic. I'd have loved to have seen it happen, and i really like that he's not backing down.

Trump in Puerto Rico. Just ugh. Throwing paper towels. The idiocy... there are just no words for him/it. Also, it wasn't a "real" disaster, like Katrina. Oh, plus congratulating them on their death toll.
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There's a real disconnect out there, though, because some people do think he did great.
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Old 10-06-2017, 02:12 PM
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It's a disconnect I'll never understand. How anyone can blindly support someone, and actually think that's not only okay, but great. Anything other than that is "fake news" .

I wasn't thrilled to vote either way, but I know disregard for anyone who is different when I see it.

Now Tillerson is supposedly soon to be fired, or resign, and a boblehead that nods all the time is suggested to take his place. Just what we need.
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Please read this article:
(I have posted in this post below but will add the link at the bottom of the post so all can see it for themselves....NOTE this is what the Congresswoman from Puerto Rico said about the aid and what Trump has done)

Jenniffer González-Colón''

Congresswoman: Puerto Rico Receiving More Than $1.6 Billion in Direct Federal Aid


By Melanie Arter | October 4, 2017 | 4:59 PM EDT

Rep. Jenniffer Gonzalez-Colon (Photo courtesy of House website)

(CNSNews.com) - Puerto Rico’s only congresswoman, Rep. Jenniffer Gonzalez-Colon (R-PR) defended President Donald Trump’s comments about the hurricane recovery efforts in Puerto Rico throwing the federal budget “out of whack.”

During his visit Tuesday, Trump said, “Now, I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you’ve thrown our budget a little out of whack, because we’ve spent a lot of money on Puerto Rico - and that’s fine.”

When asked what she thought of the president’s comments during a gaggle on board Air Force One, , Gonzalez-Colon said, “We are receiving more than $1.6 billion in direct help. We're talking about commodities. We're talking about water, diesel tanks, personnel that is in the island, so we know this is a -- we are part of the U.S., so this is the help we need at this time of need.

“So, I mean, he's just saying that -- many people are saying that the U.S. is not doing enough, but in the forefront with $1.6 billion in the island -- he just signed $40 million for the highways repairs last week, and there's more money coming up in the next days. So we're talking about a new relief package for the hurricanes,” she said.

“So this is not stopping there. It's going to continue to have more costs, and of course, more money getting through to the island,” Gonzalez-Colon added.

“What answer did you get to your question about the waiver? When you asked for the waiver for cost sharing for rebuilding, what kind of response did you get?” a reporter asked Gonzalez-Colon.

“They're still working on that issue because there's an issue of liquidity. The government is not going to have liquidity to pay in the next month. So I know there's some issues being discussed, in terms of what programs -- what specific programs -- are going to be waived,” she said.

“Actually, I spoke yesterday with the Deputy Secretary of Transportation, and we were defining what programs. The same thing with Agriculture -- there are so many programs and the White House is saying that there's an executive order from … George Bush, saying that Puerto Rico should be treated as a state in all federal programs, so if that executive order is still in place, we should waive that,” she added.

When asked if she had any assurances on when the supplemental request will come from the White House, or whether she’s received assurances that the island will receive loans from the Treasury Department, the congresswoman said, “On the first one, in the supplemental for relief, I spoke with the speaker of the House, and he's committed to have that during the last week of October, so there's going to be money there. How much? We don't know yet."

Gonzalez-Colon added, “But there's going to be -- not just for Puerto Rico -- it's going to be for all hurricanes. So all states can receive money from FEMA from that fund.”

When asked what more the island needs and whether she conveyed the needs to the president during his visit, Gonzalez-Colon said, “The governor has been asking and requesting a lot of help in different ways, and the president has granted 100 percent of what the governor asks.

“When you're working in a desperate situation like we are -- and we still are in a dire situation -- and you see that the president, his Cabinet members are committed, and everything that has been requested has been granted -- I mean, that shows you commitment,” she said.

“And it's not just words - it's commitment. It's money. It's personnel. It's tanks. It's having a daily meeting with the Cabinet, communicating with the governor in terms of where we are, what we need, how can we improve logistics. The commodities are arriving to the island, but they're not getting to all the people in the island yet I mean, in the southern part of the island,” she added.

President Donald Trump told reporters Tuesday that Puerto Rico needs more help at the local level to help distribute the commodities being provided by the federal government.

Meanwhile, before leaving the region Tuesday, President Donald Trump said on a local level Puerto Rico has to provide more help. When asked to explain those comments, the president said, “On a local level, we need the truck drivers. We need the police. We need more help on a local level, that’s true. We have tremendous amounts of supplies there. We need them distributed locally, and the best one to do that are local people.

“We need local help, and they’re helping,” the president told reporters during a gaggle on board Air Force One. “They’re really gearing up. They’re helping. Don’t forget, a lot of them lost their homes, and when you lose a home, it’s not easy to say, hey, I’m going to go and start delivering water -- or even be a policeman."

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-arter/
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Old 10-06-2017, 06:47 PM
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So far this is what has been sent:

140 Helicopters
28 Ships
6 Army Field Hospitals
3 Naval SeaBee Battalions
5 US Army Combat Engineer Battalions
3 Civil Affairs Battalions
2 Nuclear Submarines capable of generation 2.8 Gigawatts of power
300 tons of food, medical and water from Military supplies

Also note, Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States, and not a state, its representative in the House of Representatives is a delegate, called the resident commissioner, with limited voting privileges — González-Colón can vote in committee but not on the House floor, including not on the final passage of bills. Delegates have a marginalized role in Congress and their constituents are not represented in Congress in the same manner as most citizens.

NOW with all this going one, the US is also recovering from two other Hurricanes at the same time on our mainland states of Texas, Louisiana, Florida, and George
All three hurricanes hit one after another, the only real issue is Puerto Rico is it is a Island that had poor infrastructure to begin with and what they had was FLATTENED, The 7 main bridges on the island were all destroyed and need to be totally rebuilt. The island is I debt as it is before this and now it has been destroyed. Trump is the one talking about wiping out their debt to get them back on their feet.
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Trump administration rolling back mandate to cover birth control

Anti-abortion Rep. Tim Murphy resigns after report he asked lover to end pregnancy

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It's ridiculous they don't want to cover birth control, but they want to complain about unplanned pregnancy, and try to outlaw abortion.

Not to mention, they expect things like Viagra to still be covered.

Good that Murphy resigned, but I think it's mostly because he couldn't handle the humiliation of being called out.

Trump should probably start paying back the $33 million he personally owes Puerto Rico for the bankruptcy he filed for, for his golf course.
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I guess they don’t realize that birth control also treats other illnesses, not just prevents conception. For some women it keeps them from needing monthly blood transfusions and becoming anemic among other conditions,
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I guess they don’t realize that birth control also treats other illnesses, not just prevents conception. For some women it keeps them from needing monthly blood transfusions and becoming anemic among other conditions,

Leanne I completely forgot about that issue, which is enough a reason it should be fully covered. There are many health issues for women to be on birth control.
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Old 10-07-2017, 08:48 AM
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Trump personally owes the Puerto Rican government millions of dollars, huh? Why am I not surprised? That man has skipped out on paying what he owes so many times during his life, if he were black instread of orange, he'd be behind bars. And to think he had the balls to chide them for "busting" his budget, when in fact that was gonna happen the second he gave corporations their Bush-era tax breaks back.

The thing about birth control is that whether it's covered or not is a pretty good sign of where gender equality stands in a society. Because, yeah, it prevents pregnancy but most women I know went on it and stayed on it for other health reasons first and foremost. And even if that weren't the case, the cognitive disonance of not covering birth control, while defunding Planned Parenthood, enforcing ever-greater restrictions on access to abortion and keeping the minimum wage at a standstill shows you how little women can actually do to fight for themselves in a society.

Can't afford birth control. Can't access abortion. Can't take off work anyway. Can't afford to support another child. But it's all her fault, isn't it? After all, she had sex by herself, didn't she?
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Old 10-07-2017, 02:17 PM
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The man has no concept of common sense, or how the real world is. He would definitely be in jail if he were black, and I almost fell out of my chair when he said PR had hurt "our" budget.

Yeah, the tax breaks for big corporations- he only cares how things affect him, and his approval, or lack thereof.

Yes, women's rights and equality are being taken away bit by bit, AGAIN. Aren't we supposed to be moving forward, not backwards??

Of course she did it herself. Ridiculous.
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