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Old 07-03-2009, 12:02 PM
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That's exactly what I thought when I read it. The only thing I can think of is that he imprinted out of Duty since he's the true Alpha. Because if he hadn't then there is a good chance Bella would have died, and then he would have lead the charge to kill the Cullens, which would then have brought in more Vampires who would be looking for revenge on who killed the Cullens, and then that would cause too many problems for the Pack to deal with. So if Jacob imprints on Nessie it solves all those problems for SM. However, I dislike the whole idea of Nessie. You can either be a Vampire or a human--there is no go between.

But I think Leah definitely felt something towards Jacob, maybe not anything romantic, but she at least felt a very strong connection with him. Something I don't think she really felt with the others.
The whole half-vamp/half-human thing isn't my biggest problem, mostly because I've enjoyed plenty of fandoms that have dhampirs or halfbreeds (Vampire Hunter D, the Dhampir book series, Blade), but it needs to be handled right. The way SM handled Nessie just felt all wrong. I didn't think a halfbreed fit in that universe, with those kinds of vampires, and the way SM tried to explain it just made it sound even more out of place and confusing and less possible. I don't even see why Nessie was needed. Bella had all she wanted, she didn't need a child, and that, to me, just seemed to be like a smack in the face to Rosalie and Leah, who both wanted children but (supposedly) couldn't. So Bella gets everything she wants, and even something those two want, and with the imprint on Nessie, she even gets the perfect solution to her Jacob predicament. She gets to keep him in her life, close to her, without it causing problems in her relationship with Edward.

And poor Leah seems to lose her chance to be free and have someone who actually cares about her besides her brother. Someone who could have been a friend without the imprint which seems to override all other relationships. Someone who understood what she had gone through, and even felt the same kind of pain. Even if Jacob and Leah didn't eventually progress to a pair, they at least would have had a much tighter, more significant bond than they can have now, IMO.

I hope that doesn't come off too negative. The Nessie thing just really, really bugs me all around, it's just my opinion.
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Old 07-03-2009, 01:48 PM
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Nessie was a baby/toddler and kids usually get along well with whoever pays them extra attention and is willing to do whatever they want to please them. And since Jacob was like that it makes sense that she'd 'love' him right away.
Thats probably true, but Bella seemed to think the reason she was so attached to Jacob while she was preggers with her muntant child, was down to the imprint thing working its magic. Which btw makes even less sense cause Jacob apparently had to see the damn thing to imprint on, but thats just further proof that we can't say 100% how the damn thing works.

I for one am super glad Leah didn't imprint on anybody, its just the stupidest concept to latch characters together for conveniance sake rather then have to develop a relationship.
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:00 PM
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Thats probably true, but Bella seemed to think the reason she was so attached to Jacob while she was preggers with her muntant child, was down to the imprint thing working its magic. Which btw makes even less sense cause Jacob apparently had to see the damn thing to imprint on, but thats just further proof that we can't say 100% how the damn thing works.

I for one am super glad Leah didn't imprint on anybody, its just the stupidest concept to latch characters together for conveniance sake rather then have to develop a relationship.
Bella, Bella...I could say something mean about her here but I won't because I realize some of you like her character alot, but to be honest I really disliked her after Twilight.

I'm glad that Leah didn't imprint too. I want her to have choices (Okay, I sound like her mom there ) because so many things have been taken away from her...or more like ripped away from her. She deserves a real happy ending, not one that was forced by some supernatural imprint BS.
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:04 PM
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Bella, Bella...I could say something mean about her here but I won't because I realize some of you like her character alot, but to be honest I really disliked her after Twilight
im anti-bella so you wouldnt' offend me bb

My absolute dream would have been for Leah to have choosen to love Jake. The damn story was going that way. But oh well. But yeah, I agree. Love is a choice, its a slow process where feelings grow - none of this imprint nonesense.

I don't think Leah would take to kindly to imprinting anyway tbh, shes seen how weird it is and how it messes up lives, I dont really see how it could convincingly work on her.
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:11 PM
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im anti-bella so you wouldnt' offend me bb

My absolute dream would have been for Leah to have choosen to love Jake. The damn story was going that way. But oh well. But yeah, I agree. Love is a choice, its a slow process where feelings grow - none of this imprint nonesense.

I don't think Leah would take to kindly to imprinting anyway tbh, shes seen how weird it is and how it messes up lives, I dont really see how it could convincingly work on her.
yay another anti-Bella. For awhile there I thought I might be the only one.

I would have loved for her to have chosen Jake and for him to have done the same with her. And I would have loved to have seen Sam's reaction to them as a couple.

I agree that Leah would not have taken to lightly to the whole imprint thing...she probably would have punched the guy for somehow making her imprint on him.
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:17 PM
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oh i think deep down at the heart of every twilight fan is some bella hate lurking your not alone.

Leah would have been the only known case where she hates her imprint and bugs him into leaving her bless her soul, shes cute
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I don't really have much love for Bella either. Or any, even. I don't passionately hate her (except when I think about how she treated Charlie), but there's definitely no love for the character.

In BD, when Leah is talking about imprinting, and how she doesn't hate it, I never felt like she really, truly wanted it for herself. I always thought she was saying that because at that point she just wanted to forget how much she hated Sam, but even more she tells herself imprinting is right and it's meant to be, because that makes it hurt less thinking about Sam leaving her for Emily. I could understand her hating it and resenting it, but it also makes sense if she tries to really believe in it and believe it means something important - otherwise, Sam leaving her for Emily has no deeper meaner, no greater good, and that might hurt even more.

Sorry if that isn't completely coherent - I love discussing things, but I have the hardest time typing out coherent, logical responses without taking like, an hour.
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:23 PM
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I think it makes complete sense. I don't know if you remember that scene where Jacob tells Bella he isn't getting any older, that he isn't aging, until he stops phasing and she pitches this big fit because she's the "only one who has to grow older"....but that scene, ugh, I just wanted to smack her upside the head. And then with Edward always giving her whatever she wanted (like Jacob points out while she's pregnant) was another thing that drove me crazy. IMO Bella just needed to be put in her place.

I mean, what kind of person wants to die and become a vamipire and leave all you've ever known behind? How could she do that to her family and her friends--especially Jacob who she claims she's in love with and who she says is her best friend? I just don't understand, but maybe that's why I don't like Bella. Maybe we like Leah more because we're more like her than we are Bella?


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Well Leah is known for being the first to do lots of things, so I wouldn't be surprised. I find it kind of sexist that she's not able to imprint while the boys are. Like why not her? I'm not saying that I want her to imprint, but it would have been nice for her to have the option.
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:26 PM
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Old 07-04-2009, 06:11 PM
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That's such a beautiful picture of her.
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Yes it is . I did not think we could find lots of pics of this actress but actually there are plenty.
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Yeah! She's only done one famous movie, The New World, and yet she's already an awarded actress! I was pleasantly surprised by that. And she's very engaged in charity work and enviromental issues... she's kinda awesome.

I really, reeeeeeeeaally hope she's our Leah. It'd be an amazing addition to the cast.
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Awarded? What award did she win?

I'm quite proud of people engaged in environmental issues. It has become such a big issue today, and yet some people don't even care about it . We must preserve the earth.
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Here's some snippets from her bio over IMDB.com

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Her performance (on The New World) won her the National Board of Reviews best breakthrough performance of 2006 and the 2006 Alma Award for best Latin American actress in a feature film ,as well as numerous nominations and rave reviews.

Having started her performing arts career at age 6, she is not only an award-winning actress with high critical acclaim, an amazing singer /songwriter and expert dancer, but also a committed human rights and environmental activist and fearless, powerful young force, who uses her voice as tool to bring the need for universal dignity, compassion, environmental justice and basic Human Rights, to the attention of the international community.

She also lends her celebrity, voice and energy as spokesperson,collaborator and supporter to several international and national NGOs and organizations such as Amazon Watch, Youth Ambassador Amnesty International (Global Youth Ambassador for woman's Rights) AIDESEP (Spokesperson and Voice) Interethnic Association for the Development of the Peruvian Rainforest Federations) The Community School for the Arts foundation (volunteer/spokesperson) and Thursdays Child (youth counselor) Turning The Tides ((volunteer/spokesperson) Save Americas Forrests IDEM (South Dakota Youth Project) and is a spokesperson for the American Literacy Campaign (The only teen Native American spokesperson in history. She is presently working with the National Endowment For The Arts " The Big Read" Campaign, and will be recording a Book Review for the Campaign. Qorianka is also frequently volunteering her time reading Howard Zinns "The People Speak" at various open to the community staged readings, and just joined the Cast and Starring-Ensemble for the first "People Speak" Film Series (Starring Matt Damon, Sean Penn, Josh Brolin, David Straithern)
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I was about to watch her film BTW but it did not seem to work so I'll try again tomorow.
Well I'm impressed, she seems to be an awesome girl . Thanks for the info Cibele .
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