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Old 07-21-2008, 09:46 PM
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Yeah, I find it sad too that they just write Karma as being mean instead of showing her layers in ensemble fics. I mean look at how sweet she was with Zep? Her hard exterior is only an act. Karma is love.

I can definitely see Spied writing some songs on their separation time and how much he missed her because it was obvious that it couldn't be over between them. The Wendell/Chi-Chi-napping was evidence of that.

When exactly did you think they fell in love with each other? Was it around the same for each or did they fall for each ther at separate times?

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I do hope that more fics pop up to try to fill what could have been S5 but I just really hope they can do justice to the true K/S characters and show their depth.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:13 AM
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I think KS have a lot of potential for fics though.
I'm sure in season 6 their relationship would even be that much more mature because they grew so much from one season to the next.
I agree with you. There is a lot of stuff we don't know about their past with each other and alone, and all of that possibility can become really great plots. They definitely would have been more mature in s6.

I don't see how people don't see that she's just acting. She basically admitted it. She was great with Zep.

Spied wrote a lot of songs while he was sleeping on Jude's couch.

Hard question. I think they probably did fall for each other around the same time. Once she started opening up to him, I think it happened for both of them. Karma was never using him. If she was, they would have gone public with their relationship sooner. I really think she liked him from the start.
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Have you guys seen the new pictures of Cory? This is only one of them, but it's a very cute set. Really natural and everyday.
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:59 PM
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I think people choose to only see Karma as mean is due to their love for Jude since Karma was "mean" to Jude in the beginning and I guess it's hard for some people to shake that off. Though I thought it was clear why Karma did what she did. Even Spied thought Jude was mean to Karma first.

For me, I do believe she always liked him since it was obvious that from the moment he met her he adored her. She likes being adored. I get the feeling that for Karma, Spied was her first serious relationship and he was the first guy she truly cared about so she had no idea how to deal with it and that was partly why she wanted their relationship secret and maybe spinning the whole celebrity reason as why they needed to be secretive.

Cory looks gorgeous. She looks great in every colour! That top reminds of the one from the finale when Karma asks Spied if he wants the wedding gift from his dad. She's sucha cutie.
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Old 07-22-2008, 06:12 PM
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I cannot tell you how much I loved that Spied defended her, but I'm sure you already understand. He definitely already liked her. I have seen a few people, who admit to not liking her, say that she just met Jude at a bad time. If Jude hadn't been in a bad mood, they could have had a real Instant Star Sisterhood relationship.

I think it was very much her liking him due to him liking her, but, once she started opening up to him, he was like "wow, this is a great girl" and she was thinking he was a great guy because he liked her as herself. I bet a lot of the guys she "dated"/dated before him just liked her because of her looks or something and never tried to really get to know her. Spied definitely wanted her. He didn't want who she pretended to be.

I was thinking the same thing about that top today when I saw "London Calling". I love her clothes and that color looks really great on her.
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thats a gorgeous picture of her!

I think that KS liked each other from the beginning as well.

And Karma was only a jerk because that was her front. She didnt want people to see how vulnerable she really was.
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:40 PM
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I think they were definitely attracted to each other from the start (and can you blame them?). I bet Spied is her type, but most of the guys she dated weren't like him.

Exactly. Karma was actually a good person deep down. I think we always go back to this example, but she was really great with Zep. She was trying to help her out by setting her up with Jamie. I'm pretty sure there was nothing in that for her.
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:19 PM
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Yes, I felt that Spied loved everything about her when he met her. Sure she's gorgeous but I loved that he appreciated her talent too. I know some rock musicians easily write off certain singers as RnB divas because they don't really understand the genre of music but Spied even said she had talent early on. Very cute. I loved that Spied saw her for more than the exterior and wanted to see more.

It would have been interesting for Karma and Jude be in a IS sisterhood but in a way it makes it more interesting. Even though Jude showed obvious dislike for Karma, I don't really think Karma hated her at all. She just liked pushing Jude's buttons. I don't think Karma really put in any energy to truly hate her.

Cory (Karma) is just gorgeous. Karma/Spied babies would be so beautiful.
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:41 PM
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I know some rock musicians easily write off certain singers as RnB divas because they don't really understand the genre of music but Spied even said she had talent early on.
Spied's a "get to know you" kind of guy. I love that.

I don't think Karma really hated Jude, no. I think Jude held a grudge over everything, which I suppose is understandable, but Karma seemed like she just wanted to forget it and go forward. Now, I don't think she would really try and go out of her way to be her friend, but she respected Jude's relationship with Spied, and that is a big deal.

She is, and they would be the best looking celebrity babies. Move over, Shiloh and Suri. Ozzy's (subject to change) in town!

We're very close to 300 posts. Is this the point where everyone tries to come up with titles for the next thread? If so, I have one. Because she kicked Thurman. I am too into that part.
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Yes, Spied is always ready to get to know somebody.

That is why Karma is just awesome. She seems to confident in Spied's love for her that she doesn't feel threatened by other women who are a part of Spied's life. She's fine with Spied/Jude's close friendship. I think a lot of woment would resent Jude for being so close to Spied, especially knowing they previously dated but Karma's all whatever about it.

Yup, Ozzy Spiederman baby photos will be all the tabloids' will be gunning for. That baby would be so lucky. Think of the lovely lullabies he/she would hear? Aww...

Ooh, I like that title. I wished Karma had kicked Thurman earlier on but hey, the fact that she did makes her rock. I loved Spied's reaction to it. He totally loved how his #1 girl defended him.
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:49 PM
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A lot of women would probably tell him that he can't talk to/hang out with her anymore. Karma never said a thing, that we know of. Even more reason to love her. A lot of people might think that she is the typical jealous girlfriend/wife, but she's far from it. She knows what she has with Spied.

Aww, they'd be the best at getting their baby to sleep.

Spied knew right away that it was OK when she kicked him. I've watched his reactions during that scene quite a few times, and he knew.

What do you think would have been the situation had they gotten the divorce? I think they would have been back together pretty quick. There was just something about the way he told her he didn't want anything from his dad. He kind of seemed like he was talking to a friend, so I have every reason to believe they would have gotten back together.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:49 AM
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Yeah, other women would be get all possessive of their husbands. I can't believe that people could ever think that Karma is a jealous wife. She's not all over her husband in public at all; she saves that for the closet She is so confident of Spied's affection for her that she's pretty much ok with him doing whatever he wants. Remember at Jude's party how she was all whatever when Spied was doing his thing? Even at Spied's on b-day party, Karma was clinging on to him and was busy doing her own thing. I just love her for that.

Baby Ozzy would even have original lullabies!

Me too, I loved that Spied knew it wasn't over between them.

If they had gotten a divorce I think they would have eventually gotten back together quickly too. The whole time they were "separated" within their own home they obviously still loved each other a lot. I don't think it was a matter of who was supposed to say I'm sorry first but more about "what do we do now?" They both seemed lost with the situation and when it comes to arguing, both get really immature so they both just didn't know how to deal with the whole thing.

I can imagine them being that quiet, awkward nice to each other while divorced but whenever someone showed interested in the other they would get all nasty and smarmy with each other.

BTW, can I please start the new thread once we hit 300?
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They would be, and I'm glad that they never had any big "what were your other relationships like" conversations, that we know of. If they did, I don't think they would have been a big deal. They're very much "in the now".

I'm jealous of Ozzy. I bet Chi Chi gets sung to, at least by Karma.

Spiedy!

I think so too.

I wonder if Karma would have had anything to do with World Instant Star, like as a judge, divorced or not. I can see them missing each other from around the world and having difficulties with that, not knowing if it's OK to write/call. If they were in the same city, though, I can see them having some tense moments, but always kind of "relieved" that the other is right there just in case. Hopefully they would get back together before her reality show ended its casting. That could get complicated, but it sure would have been entertaining to see that.

I have no idea how it works, honestly, but I don't mind at all. You were here first.
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Yeah, I wonder how much Spied told Karma of his relationship with Jude... :|

I can imagine Spiedy secretly singing to Chi Chi while they were mad at each other. You know he loved Chi Chi too. Chi Chi is there baby!

Karma would probably be a World Instant Star judge. I wonder if it's part of the contract or something. Also, I'm not sure exactly how Spied could work with NBR. Didn't he have a contract with GMajor? Maybe not a record contract but didn't he sign with them on something? I wasn't clear on all of that.

Aww, them missing each other... What do think would be the moment that would cause them to get back together or circumstance if they were divorced? Who would be the first to admit their feelings?

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Hmm, I think he probably left it lacking in details. He probably just said that they dated for a short amount of time, but she obviously liked Tommy more, and that they were better as friends.

I love it. "I don't want to punt a defenseless dog."

It probably is part of the contract for her to be a judge, as needed. I have no idea what's up with Spied and G Major, though. It seemed like he left pretty suddenly and went straight to NBR. Maybe, since he was essentially part of Jude's back-up band, he wasn't obligated to stay. He probably was signed on to something, but, with Jude's tour canceled and her contract finished, it probably didn't matter.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Karma let something slip one day, like maybe during a "divorced couple" fight. I think Spied would be the first to talk about them, but I can see Karma being the first to say something that would start it all.

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