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Old 04-20-2017, 01:19 AM
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The Doctor takes Bill to the colony world Gliese 581 D. It’s a bright, sunny world, tended to by the tiny bird-like Vardies and their user interface – the Emojibots.
There’s just one thing missing: the colonists. As the Doctor and Bill investigate, they discover that to keep smiling is their only hope of staying alive…


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The episode looks good
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Old 04-21-2017, 03:11 AM
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I'm looking forward to this episode already.




These Emojibots reminded me of those robots in "The Girl Who Waited".
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^ yer they do look like them.. love bill reaction to the robots they speak emoji
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That episode started very very well in my opinion then kind of fizzled out? I loved the idea of the emojis in the back and how you had to stay happy and the fertilizers (that was dark ) but the ending was just not satisfying. It was oddly similar to "Passengers" with the whole spaceship with the colonists inside.

I mean the doctor letting the humans live there, hoping that the humans will be kind to the robots when the humans say "they killed our friends". Even the doctor compares the Vardies to Indigenes and he suggests to them that they play nice? I'm gonna assume the doctor never learnt about colonialism or he would know that as soon as they learn the things they need to from the Vardies to live on this planet, they will either destroy the Vardies or oppress them in some way. So yeah all of that indicated to me that the ending wasn't well thought through?

Also, there's a massive plot hole : how , if that "grief tsunami" occur in one morning, did that woman at the beginning knew that they were supposed to keep happy? Like that first person died, then that second then that third.... all in morning and in one morning she figured out the solution? That's a stretch.

The writer was the one who wrote the trees episode which was... ugh.

Anyway... i'm still curious about the vault and why the doctor would make that promise and to whom he would make such a promise.
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Emojibots!!! I loved this episode! Bill was just awesome!! Loved seeing Nardole again! And of course, the Doctor!! Loved the skeptical emoji on his back! LOL!
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Good ep but I agree, it kind of fizzled out in the end. And I'm not a fan of re-booting everything to make it all better. This is S5 all over again (but S5 was actually one of my favorite Moffat seasons).

However, I like the idea of the emojibots and the mood patches in the back. I kept laughing at how moody the Doctor's patch was. It's eyebrows were always furrowed.

I was very confused with the mythology of this story so I think I will have to re-watch but I kind of feel bummed that if this was what the future is for humans, then we're forced to 'work with' robots and this is also like some form of slavery.

I'm gathering that the dead woman that Bill saw was the first to feel grief so she died and because of her death, the rest followed? Bill said the deaths all happened on the same day. That's really messed up.
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I was very confused with the mythology of this story so I think I will have to re-watch but I kind of feel bummed that if this was what the future is for humans, then we're forced to 'work with' robots and this is also like some form of slavery.
Nah the humans won't be the slaves , the doctor says himself that the robots are the indigenous life forms so they're definitely not slaves (and if you look at history of how the humans have treated indigenous populations I wouldn't feel sorry for them...at all)


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It is messed up and that's when I started drifting apart from the episode

It's such a shame the beginning was so cool with interesting concepts too,
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Okay good. I don't really want a DW ep to be stamped with "slavery" on it.

Overall though, while it was a slow episode, it was still good for me. I do have to hand it to 12 and Bill's dynamic which I'm enjoying a lot on the show.

Preview for next ep is my favorite era so I'm excited.

Btw, I had a hoot when Bill discovered the Doctor has 2 hearts.
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Okay good. I don't really want a DW ep to be stamped with "slavery" on it.

Overall though, while it was a slow episode, it was still good for me. I do have to hand it to 12 and Bill's dynamic which I'm enjoying a lot on the show.

Preview for next ep is my favorite era so I'm excited.

Btw, I had a hoot when Bill discovered the Doctor has 2 hearts.
Lol yes she reacted really well for someone who just fou d it out

I didn't mind the episode it was ok .. im more interested in whats in the vault do we know what promise he made? .. i like bill and him his teaching her a lot
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Okay good. I don't really want a DW ep to be stamped with "slavery" on it.
Which is why I was meh with the episode, it showed nobody's good angle and at the end of the day, from what I've read, many didn't care about the storyline because it felt flat. A shame really

The next episode looks really cool I'm confused about Peter's hair it looks so much shorter next week

Yeah me too, i'm really really curious about the vault and how eventually I assume it's gonna be related to Twelve's demise
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Which is why I was meh with the episode, it showed nobody's good angle and at the end of the day, from what I've read, many didn't care about the storyline because it felt flat. A shame really

The next episode looks really cool I'm confused about Peter's hair it looks so much shorter next week

Yeah me too, i'm really really curious about the vault and how eventually I assume it's gonna be related to Twelve's demise
I didnt mind the episode i think it was still an episode when we get to know bill

The vault j like it they have laid down a story arch which i prefer
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Probably not what I was meant to take from the episode, but the robots were cute

Aside from that, the conclusion, for me, was too easy. Pressing the reset button... I want long, complicated solutions
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