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Old 07-05-2008, 12:14 PM
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im really happy but not as well at the same time. I hated the way Doctor one didnt seem to care that much about leaving Rose..im just not sure what to think. Watching confidential made me feel better about it, but .... i need some time to process it
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:22 PM
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So many emotions going on in my head right now not sure what i feel

But the doctor could never be with rose cause Doctor who doesnt work like that he isnit allowed romance
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:23 PM
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I was too mad to even bother watching Confidential. Like I said, I just felt really cheated by that ending. To me, they both can't be The Doctor. And *shakes head*, I just don't feel they did The Doctor and Rose justice. It seemed like the easy way out for a happy ending and it just really wasn't.
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:25 PM
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Well one could argue what makes a person a person? He has the same memories, his physical appearance and his mind, does that not make him the same Doctor?

I thought it was beautiful and sad at the same time. He gave her the one thing he never could before, a normal life and a chance for them to grow old together.
No....I can't explain it completely but he is not HER Doctor, he is not the same person she had spent all that time with, he is a duplicate. He has one heart and he is different. The same physical appearance & memories does not make him the same person!

I obviously know people won't agree with me but it's just the way I feel. I am glad Rose got a Doctor but it just wasn't HER Doctor, in my eyes!!!!

I still loved the episode. I'm not bad mouthing it or anything just what I feel!!!
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:29 PM
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The are the same though, you know like Nine and Ten are different but still the same man.
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:33 PM
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No....I can't explain it completely but he is not HER Doctor, he is not the same person she had spent all that time with, he is a duplicate. He has one heart and he is different. The same physical appearance & memories does not make him the same person!
Fair enough. But I disagree that memories and emotions do not make a person who they are. I AM my memories, because I am shaped by them. Just as physical appearance and emotions shape me as well.

If one goes by your logic then Ten is not the same as the Ninth Doctor, which we know is not the case, they are the same. Just as Doctor no. 2 is Doctor no. 1. He's made out of him afterall.
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:34 PM
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The are the same though, you know like Nine and Ten are different but still the same man.
Yeah but there not haha!!! I'm sorry I don't mean to be frustrating, I'm frustrating myself. He had ONE heart. He was part human. He is not the same.

Nine/Ten. Both two hearts, both time lords.....same person. Doctor 2....he was a clone.....

This is driving me mad haha!!!

Maybe we should agree to disagree!! My mind is crazy!!
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:37 PM
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I was too mad to even bother watching Confidential. Like I said, I just felt really cheated by that ending. To me, they both can't be The Doctor. And *shakes head*, I just don't feel they did The Doctor and Rose justice. It seemed like the easy way out for a happy ending and it just really wasn't.
I totally agree. It felt like such a cop out. Same memories and experiences with her, on his side but he will never be her Doctor. However some of the things the REAL doctor said before leaving were so sweet. But why does every series have to end with him abandoning her on that beach, it wasn't easy the first time and I'm not getting any more used to it!
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:37 PM
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even though rose snogged the other doctor the way she looked at the tardis as he left oh god going to cry again. She got what she always wanted but then she didnt.

Hopefully the doctor wont be sad for too long he did give her him kinda of

Confusing thanks RTD
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:40 PM
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Yeah let's just agree to disagree.
A clone is Martha in The Poison Sky, this is a botched regeneration, they have the same face the same memories. everything. I'll shut up now.

Is it bad that the first thing I though was "poor Rose she has the dreaded blue suit"
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:42 PM
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I'm going to move on now......My head hurts!!!

"He needs you....that's very me!"

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"Does it need saying?" YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please don't whisper it.....haha
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:43 PM
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No....I can't explain it completely but he is not HER Doctor, he is not the same person she had spent all that time with, he is a duplicate. He has one heart and he is different. The same physical appearance & memories does not make him the same person!

I obviously know people won't agree with me but it's just the way I feel. I am glad Rose got a Doctor but it just wasn't HER Doctor, in my eyes!!!!

I still loved the episode. I'm not bad mouthing it or anything just what I feel!!!

I completely, and wholeheartedly agree with you.

I know what you mean. It wasn't her doctor. I don't think you can make the nine/ten comparison. For one, he has only one heart, and like I said before The Doctor she fell in love with had the burden of outliving everyone around him and everyone he loves. That is a strong emotion that's an innate part of The Doctor - not one the duplicate Doctor can possibly feel or understand. Therfore, he is different. He is NOT the same man Rose loves. That's just how I see it. They can't possibly be the same and the one.
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:44 PM
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Maybe rose was fed up being alone and the other doctor told her what she wanted to hear. She knew she would never get the real doctor so she grab at a chance of possibly happiness.

hope that makes sense
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:45 PM
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I really dont know what to think about that ending...it was probably the happiest ending Doctor and Rose could have got given the circumstances, and obviously i was happy to see a full on snog finally between the two (did you guys see the confidential? Billie and David were proper going for it! )

But...I hated the way the proper doctor didnt even really say goodbye and the ending with him alone in the tardis was quite possible the most depressing thing i've ever seen. Why cant he ever have one minute of happiness bless him!!
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:47 PM
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I think it was a nice gift to Rose, she could grow old with the Doctor, the modified version! The fact is that the real Doctor knew he could never be with her in the way she wanted, and he would lose her again one day. It was a big sacrifice on his part to give her as close to a happy ending as he could.
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