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Old 05-11-2010, 02:29 PM
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Parenthood - 1x11 - "Solace" Episode Discussion

Episode 11
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ZEEK BECOMES ADAM'S HOUSEGUEST WHILE AMBER FEELS INCREDIBLY GUILTY - Zeek (Craig T. Nelson) makes his presence known while crashing with Adam (Peter Krause) and Kristina (Monica Potter). Elsewhere, Camille (Bonnie Bedelia) focuses on her art instead of focusing on her husband. Trying to get her father out of debt, Julia (Erika Christensen) enlists the help of her old college flame much to Joel's (Sam Jaeger) chagrin. Meanwhile, Amber (Mae Whitman) feels guilty about betraying Haddie (Sarah Ramos) and Crosby (Dax Shepard) thinks about settling down with Jasmine (Joy Bryant) and Jabbar (Tyree Brown). Lauren Graham, Miles Heizer, Max Burkholder and Savannah Paige Rae also star.
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Old 05-11-2010, 06:58 PM
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Zeek as a house guest, there must be comedy and drama there!
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Old 05-11-2010, 07:21 PM
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JAWS quote!! Made me think of Lauren on Craigy Ferg

Love love love the Sarah/Camille bond! SO MUCH.

Mae was amazing in her little breakdown scene. SO great!

This was a really great episode, I thought. I think I like it much more when its Zeek/Camille and the kids minus the grandkids. I love that dynamic so much more.
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Old 05-11-2010, 08:05 PM
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The first thing I have to say about this episode is that Lauren looked absolutely gorgeous!!!!!!

Looks like the real family drama over the Amber/Haddie/Steve thing is going to occur next week. I thought it was going to happen this week. Really, I don't get why Amber felt the need to tell Haddie. Big mistake! Don't hurt someone else to ease your own guilt.

I actually felt kinda bad for Joel when Julia rejected his offer to help with the Zeek situation. Also, we now know that Joel used to be a contractor. Slowly we're getting the background info.

Max and the turtoise/turtle or whatever the hell that thing was storyline was kinda boring to me, but I do like that Zeek got to be the hero in the end.

Oh, and did I mention how stunningly beautiful Lauren looked? Her eyes just shone!

ETA: Shannon, I agree. The Camille/Sarah bond is so touching! I'm loving their scenes together!

ETA again. I was glad that Sarah and Adam didn't tell Crosby and Julia about Zeek cheating. Sarah needed to get it out to someone and so told Adam, but they left it at that. I can understand her need to do that and am glad that she only broke her promise to her Mom a little bit, if that makes sense.
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Old 05-11-2010, 08:08 PM
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Excellent episode. So much emotion.

Yep, I also love Sarah and Camille's relationship.

I do give Amber credit for admitting the truth to Haddie. Don't think that I would have had the guts to do so at that age.
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Old 05-11-2010, 08:13 PM
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I really enjoyed this episode more so then last weeks.

The only storyline that's boring me a bit is Max. I think it's slightly overplayed. And yes I've been around autistic kids with all different levels of autism. I just find that some things to be true and other things to be exaggerated.

and next weeks looks SOOOO gooooood!!!


I don't think Amber should of slept with what's his face but you know technically they were broken up. I guess what's upsetting is that she talked Haddie out of not going down that road and then bam betrays her. But I find Amber to have a lot more deeper routed issues which could be the reason why she was so careless about her decision (or the fact that a teen's hormones and drinking never mix well) Guess we'll find out more next week!!
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Old 05-11-2010, 08:15 PM
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I do give Amber credit for admitting the truth to Haddie. Don't think that I would have had the guts to do so at that age
LOL. Auntbee, if you read my previous post you'll see that I looked at this in the exact opposite way. I thought Amber was being selfish. It's fun to read other people's viewpoints.

ETA: Lauren's delivery always makes me LOL:

Sarah: "It's like a Sex and the City movie"

Little guy: "Oh, I'm so looking forward to seeing it"

Sarah: "Well, so am I! It's not like I'm dead inside, but the fact is that guy is a homewrecker!"

I just love her so much!
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Old 05-11-2010, 08:50 PM
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I really really liked this episode. It's just developing so nicely. I thought it was brave of aber to tell her cousin about steve. I mean she was gonna find out anyway, u know how teenagers are, so it was better her hearing it form her then at school somehow.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:28 PM
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OMG what a way to start the episode, great scene with Mae. Feeling guilty almost the moment she woke up to what she had done. And then breaking down in front of Haddie, next week should be good. Amber was out of place at the slumber party was, anyone else notice how Amber didn't break the CD?

Zeek, what an ass, blaming Camille for what happened, that is low. I do like that Sarah told Adam (who then told his wife) Nice to see Adam confront his father, it will be interesting to see how long he will stay there. I do like they came to some understanding by the end of the episode. Watching Adam cope with Max and his lost turtle or is that tortus?

The scene with Haddie and Zeek was fun and awkward all at the same time, no wonder she didn't want to talk about it to Kristina.

I was hoping to for a breakfast scene with Sarah and the kids, Amber come back after her walk of shame. Sarah making pancakes was an added bonus, one not quite done LOL. Why is it we only see Drew in bit part, the breakfast and then Piano late in the episode?

Good to see Julia helping her father, I can see who Joel has a problem with her working with an ex and the guy she went to prom with. Also we finally know what Joel used to do, a contractor and willing to help. The scenes with Timm (2 Ms) were priceless, anyone else wants Joel to deck him?

Crosby is such a big kid, even I know how to do my laundry, if I have to LOL But it was nice to see him grow up a little and thinking about his future with Jabbar and Jasmine, also nice to see her as part of the family.

Sarah and another dramatic scenes, I just wish we could see her smile some more, like when she found the pink bunny and wanting pizza because she saw it on TV. The scenes with Camille were great, still not sure how much happened with her and the other guy, next week I guess we'll find out. Love the art gallery with Camille and Sarah's comment about the Sex in the City sequel.

Also nice to see the four sibling at the diner together, I think Crosby and Julia could tell something was up.

I think that's everything, such a packed episode, but I loved it, nice balance of drama and comedy.

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Old 05-11-2010, 11:42 PM
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I didn't cry!!!!!! It's a miracle!

I did however still love this episode, I loved Sarah stepping up in the house & becoming the kinda mother hen there but still leaning on Adam.

The scene where she sat up and waited on Camille was so touching, she knew what was going to happen between them and I like that she was there with no judgement kinda. You could see Camille felt like crap

I thought it was cute that Zeek called her "Millie"

Zeek saying "intercourse" to Haddie made me want to barf!

What the hell is a second lunch?! I guess I wear shorts to work!

"Put it through the window with a real strong rope?" The way she said that made me LOL! Haha! And I loved in the attic when Crosby started shouting on his mom and Sarah was trying to stop him - sooooo been that big sister!

I'm glad that Sarah and Adam didn't tell the other two.

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Crosby, Jasmine and Jabbar in the boat was cute "He's already storing my dad" Do you think that they were reading or something for this ep when Lauren was talking about Jaws and that's why it was on her mind?!

The whole "I'm gonna kill him" exchange between Adam and Kristina was my parents with my sister. Daily.

Camille's hair looked weird straight at the bottom and curly on top? I usually love her hair

"The girl's virginity is hanging by a thread"

Lauren's delivery of the Sex and the City line was awesome!!!! "I'm not dead inside!"

The art teacher dude was slimetastic! Ewww that's some serious Just for Men in his hair!

Amber I really really felt bad for - I didn't feel that she was being selfish, I think it was the sort of thing that was gonna come out at some point in the future and she wanted it to come from her. Mae was great in her scenes and Sarah R is really growing on me too

The scene with Adam squeezing Max to subdue him in his tantrum with Zeek looking on was really well done I thought.

I have to go to stinkin work now Booo. I can't wait for next week!

What did Zeek mean by "we did it to each other? It takes 2 to tango?" Hmmm.

ETA - Holy Crapsticks!!! I just saw next weeks promo! Thanks Craig I can't WAIT!!! I kinda love that Haddie just blurts it out in front of everyone!!! eeeeeek!!!!
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Old 05-12-2010, 12:15 AM
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With Zeek and Cami, first do we think Camille might have cheated or something first, not that its and excuse to do likewise. Also do we think she slept with the guy or maybe just 'made-out' or am I in fuzzy puppy land here?
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Was it ever established whether Crosby bought/rented that house/apt/condo? They made it a point to show the moving of the piano, but where did they take it?
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:51 AM
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OMG Such a great episode! I really really loved it.

Amber's becoming one of my favourite characters, and I actually love her and Steve together. Sorry Haddie But next week looks so hard for Amber!

I always love it when Zeek and Camille have more stuff to do in the episodes, so I hope their focus continues! They're killing me as well I want them back together!

Oh and also, DREW!! I miss him so much. He like never gets anything to do anymore Come on writers! He's my favourite part of the show, so sucks for me
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Old 05-12-2010, 04:49 AM
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What a cheesy ending. I wish they wouldn't solve almost all problems at the end of the episodes everytime. But I loved Zeek in Adam's house, he had some great lines like the turtle one: "You call a turtle....nothing". And I loved Adam and Kristinas "I'm gonna kill him." And wtf the fact that you are married longer than your kid doesn't make you automatically wiser.

As for Sarah, oh Lauren, 6 minutes into the episode and you're already crying. Loved loved loved that she told Adam about the cheating but no one else, it made the breakfast with the siblings extra awkward (and those views between Adam and Sarah....but that's something for the Kraham thread lol). I liked the girls night out at the art gallery and Sarah's SATC rant to the poor guy, man she scared him away in no time lol. And I took it that Camille had "intercourse" (as Zeek would say) with the art teacher, right? I guess she had to do it, well not had to had it since she doesn't really feel good about it but it was nice to see her all dressed up and happy.

Regarding Amber, well, I can't really see it all to be her fault. Sure, in Haddie's point of view it really looks bad but it's not the end of the world. And she broke up with him not vice versa. So drama queen, get over it. Amber's life is way more screwed than yours.

Also loved the little talk between Jasmin and Crosby:

"Why dont you store the piano at Adam's?"
"I cant really do that to him he is already storing my dad."

Overall, great ep, I love drama more than comedy and this episode had a lot of it.
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