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Old 01-01-2004, 04:49 AM
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Citrus and Vine I agree with you about the Destiny Book, but if you're right, other questions will be created.

One of them says, Nacedo cannot be sure if Max,Isabel and Michael are the real missing royal three, that's why he didn't come and tell them about their destiny straight away. But how could he not know? There are pictures of everyone in the destiny book.
Nasedo knew all about the Special Unit. That’s how he found out about Max healing Liz and leaving a silver handprint in Roswell. (Valenti told the FBI about it, and Nasedo got the information from the FBI Special Unit.)

To verify that Max really was who Nasedo thought he was, he sent a signal in Frazier Woods that was reported by people in the area. Nasedo also left an alien emblem burned into the ground.








Max, Michael, and Isabel found the symbol in the woods and erased it. Nasedo then knew that he had found the missing podsters. Nasedo continued to watch them and take pictures of them. He had to figure out how he could control them, so he could carry out his deal with Kivar.

Nasedo knew that Max could tell him what to do. (The shapeshifters Kal and Nasedo had to obey direct instructions from Max.) Nasedo knew that if he went directly to the podsters to tell them who he was, then they could start asking him questions. Nasedo wanted to control what the podsters knew, so he could trick them into doing what Kivar's deal required.

If Nasedo could get the three podsters hunted by the law and the Special Unit, then he could keep them isolated from other humans. If he could make them think he rescued them, then they would believe what he told them to do.

Nasedo wanted to get them to fear living on Earth, so they would want to go to Antar. That’s why Nasedo killed Hank, rather than introduce himself to Michael and provide a home for Michael. It’s also why Nasedo got “Max” chased by the police and Special Unit, after he killed the agent and started a fire at the gas station, leaving silver handprints on both the agent and the gas pump.

Nasedo could have freed Max from the White Room right away. He knew the place intimately. He knew the exact room Max was being held in. He knew how to get around the place. He knew how to get through the security door, without anyone else’s help. (Nasedo told Michael he would use the approaching agent’s hand to get though the door. Nasedo could also shapeshift to look like any of the agents.)

Nasedo didn’t free Max right away while Max was alone in the white room overnight, because he knew that the Special Unit would study Max. Nasedo wanted Max’s experience with the Special Unit to be painful. Nasedo wanted Max to want to leave Earth.

Nasedo didn’t tell Tess what he was doing, because he didn’t want Tess or any of the podsters to rescue Max. (Tess scolded Nasedo for not telling her where he was. He had never left her before, without telling her.) Michael, Isabel, and Tess showed up unexpectedly, so Nasedo had to pretend that he needed their help to rescue Max, but really, Nasedo could have gotten Max out on his own.

Again, Nasedo and Tess made up the so-called Destiny Book. Nasedo was responsible for the book idea that Max and Tess should produce a child, and Michael and Isabel should produce a child. Nasedo was carrying out his deal with Kivar, who needed a lineal royal heir to legitimatize his rule.

Max and Isabel’s Antarian mother said that she wanted to hold both her children, Max and Isabel, in her arms again. She said nothing about grandchildren.

The podsters’ intended mission was to defeat the enemies who had come to Earth, and then free Antar. Children would have been an encumbrance. Children would have distracted from the mission. Only Kivar wanted the podsters to produce children. Max and Isabel’s mother said nothing about them getting pregnant or producing children.


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Citrus and Vine I know that Nasedo did all those things in oder to check if Max,Isabel and Michael really belong to the royal family,but still: He didn't have to do all those things,because there was a picture of everyone in the destiny book.
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The so-called Destiny Book was a fake created by Tess and Nasedo. The book wasn’t sent along with the podsters.

Nasedo faked the book to convince Max and Tess to pair up and Michael and Isabel to pair up and have children for Kivar, who needed a lineal, royal heir to improve his status on Antar, which was war-torn by his rule.

The Antarians who sent the podsters had no reason to send rough drawings of what they would look like as children or as they would look like as teens, when they actually looked at the book.

The crash of the podsters spaceship was unexpected. Some of the crew died.

The Antarians had expected that the guardians would teach the podsters.

If the Antarians had included any drawings in material they sent along on the trip, then they likely would have included diagrams for operating the Granilith. That would be useful information for the podsters, if all their guardians died before they were born.

Instead, there are only drawings of the podsters as children and as teens, and a drawing of Tess pregnant beside Max and a drawing of Isabel pregnant beside Michael.

The podsters didn’t know how to use the Granilith, because there were no drawings in the so-called Destiny Book on how to operate the Granilith.

The whole idea of the book was to convince Max, Michael, and Isabel to have children for Kivar.

Tess was willing to contribute drawings of the podsters as children, because she wanted them to accept her as one of them. Tess thought of them as her family. She wanted the group to go back to Antar, and reclaim Max’s throne. She became willing to carry out Nasedo’s deal with Kivar, when she saw a flash of Max’s goodbye kiss to Liz, while Tess was pregnant with their child. Otherwise, Tess would have gone to Antar without Max, since he had already prepared the Granilith for take-off, and she loved him. (Tess asked Max if he was sure he wanted to go to Antar, just before they were leaving. When he kissed her, she felt so betrayed by his kiss to Liz and all the other ways he had betrayed her love for him that she wanted to hurt him as much as he had hurt her.)

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The translation was more than three or four pages.

Here is a picture of the translation.
As you can see, there are more than three or four pages.

You can verify the number of pages in the translation by watching Baby It’s You or Who Died and Made You King. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]</STRONG>

That also brings up another point. Why did no one question the length of the translation versus the size of the destiny book?? I remember when the translation was first produced that I wondered about it but I had completely forgotten about it until I read the previous posts. It makes no sense that they wouldn't have questioned the translation or the book. It seems like they would have been a little less trusting... especially after they knew that Alex had died because of it.
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She became willing to carry out Nasedo’s deal with Kivar, when she saw a flash of Max’s goodbye kiss to Liz, while Tess was pregnant with their child. Otherwise, Tess would have gone to Antar without Max, since he had already prepared the Granilith for take-off, and she loved him. (Tess asked Max if he was sure he wanted to go to Antar, just before they were leaving. When he kissed her, she felt so betrayed by his kiss to Liz and all the other ways he had betrayed her love for him that she wanted to hurt him as much as he had hurt her.)

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Uhh, I must respectfully disagree. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] Tess was the villian, [img]smilies/devil.gif[/img] not the victim, [img]smilies/bawl.gif[/img] from her first appearance. Tess was all about lies, deceit, and mindwarping. [img]smilies/demon.gif[/img]

Tess never had any love for Max, or anyone else. She only used others, including her fellow aliens, to get what she wanted. [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Max did not betray Tess in any way. [img]smilies/angel.gif[/img] Tess betrayed Max. And Michael. And Isabel. And Alex. And Kyle. And Jim.

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That also brings up another point. Why did no one question the length of the translation versus the size of the destiny book?? I remember when the translation was first produced that I wondered about it but I had completely forgotten about it until I read the previous posts. It makes no sense that they wouldn't have questioned the translation or the book. It seems like they would have been a little less trusting... especially after they knew that Alex had died because of it.
Max, Michael, and Isabel didn’t question the great length of the translation versus the small number of pages and few symbols of the book Tess gave them, because they didn’t have any reason to think that the translation was of that book.

The three thought that an unknown alien had Alex do the translation from some unknown source.

Max had the book Tess gave them hidden in the podchamber, where it remained undisturbed. Because there was such a discrepancy in the amount of material in the translation in comparison to the small amount of material in the so-call Destiny book, no one thought Tess had anything to do with the translation. They all thought some other alien was responsible for making Alex do the translation and then killing him.

the so-called Destiny book was still in the podchamber, where Max had hidden it


Liz figured out that Tess was responsible for getting the translation done, when Liz connected Amy’s fingertapping to Tess’ suppression of Amy’s memory of the Brody/Larek incident at the UFO Center. (Liz also recalled that Kyle had drummed his fingers, and so had Alex.)

At the cave, Liz excitedly said, “Max stop! It was Tess. Tess killed Alex. She mindwarped Alex and sent him to Las Cruces to decode the book, but he broke out of the mindwarp and she killed him.”





Although Liz thought Alex decoded the book Tess gave the others, Liz may never have seen the so-called Destiny book.

Tess gave the book to Michael, who gave it to Max. Max couldn’t immediately show the book to Liz, because Nasedo kidnapped her that same day, as Max was returning to Roswell from talking to Tess about the book. After Max got away from the white room, he and Liz subsequently went to the cave, where Liz broke up with Max and stopped talking to him. So Liz may have only heard about the book from Maria, who dated Michael, or from Isabel, who had also seen the book. Since she never saw the number of pages in the so-called Destiny book or the few number of symbols it had, she had no reason to think that the translation didn’t come from the book. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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By the way- when did Tess mindwarp Max? o.0 I seem to have watched a different show.
Tess mindwarped Max in the Crashdown Café, as Max was kissing Liz.




She mindwarped him in the school lab, as he walked over to her, to make him think that he kissed her on the lab table.


She mindwarped him in the rain, to make him think they had kissed each other. (She mindwarped Liz, as well, to make her think she saw Max kiss Tess in the rain.)





She mindwarped him at the library to make him think she took the alien book from the library wall. Kyle was standing right next to her, so she wouldn’t have actually held the book in her hands at the library. Otherwise, the alien book would have aroused Kyle’s curiosity. Tess also used the mindwarp to teach Max the manner of opening the cave door. She showed him that sweeping the palm of his hand across the correct spot would produce a handprint that would then trigger the opening.


She mindwarped him in an attempt to make him think that they made love together in the field where they talked about the book, the dreams, and Nesado.



Max was able to resist the mindwarp in the field. He knew he wasn’t in love with Tess, and that he wouldn’t make love to her there. Tess’ mindwarp contradicted Max’s deeply held feelings, so her mindwarp didn’t work.

When Tess mindwarped Isabel at the old military hospital to make Isabel think a man carried Tess away, Isabel then knew Tess was responsible for Max’s earlier thoughts about Tess.


ISABEL: Oh my god, what just happened?
TESS: I made you think something was happening right in front of you when it really wasn’t.
ISABEL: That’s what you did to Max, isn’t it? That’s why he had all those thoughts about you.



When Tess and Liz sat together in the jeep in Roswell, Tess mindwarped the two agents simultaneously to go to Hondo. Liz then knew that the rain kiss had been a mindwarp. Tess admitted that it had been easier to mindwarp Liz, than to make Liz see that Tess was like Max and that they belonged together, instead of Liz. She was using powers that Liz didn’t have. Tess wanted Liz to see right in front of her that Tess was an alien like Max. That’s why Tess used her powers right in front of Liz.

LIZ: Can you just do that with everyone? Make them see things that aren't even there?
TESS: Sometimes it's easier to do that than to make someone see something that's right in front of her eyes.


Tess mindwarped Max in Season Two also, as is revealed in Season Three.
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Uhh, I must respectfully disagree. Tess was the villian, not the victim from her first appearance. Tess was all about lies, deceit, and mindwarping.
Tess never had any love for Max, or anyone else. She only used others, including her fellow aliens, to get what she wanted.
Max did not betray Tess in any way. Tess betrayed Max. And Michael. And Isabel. And Alex. And Kyle. And Jim.
Tess loved Kyle, like a brother. That’s why she didn’t kill him, even though she knew her mindwarps were coming undone. Tess loved Jim like a father. She didn’t want him to be alone without Kyle, so again, she didn’t kill Kyle, even though she knew it meant that Kyle might tell someone that her repeated mindwarps of Alex resulted in Alex’s death.

Tess didn’t mean for Alex to die, but she didn’t want him to tell anyone that he had done the translation in Las Cruces. Tess knew her mindwarps of Alex were coming undone, yet she took no action to kill him to prevent him talking. Rather Tess kept on mindwarping Alex. She mindwarped him multiple times, and unknown to her until too late, his mind weakened from the mindwarps and he died.

Max and Tess had been married to each other in their previous lives. They had been in love with each other, before Kivar killed them.

Tess loved Max before she ever met him. She wanted him to love her, as she loved him. She was very hurt that he didn’t return the love she had for him, when they first met.

Tess used mindwarps, when Isabel told Tess at the school lockers that Max said Liz was his soulmate. Tess wanted Max to love her instead of Liz, so she mindwarped Max in an attempt to get him to love her. She also mindwarped Michael and Isabel, because she thought they should be a couple also.

Tess didn’t murder Liz to get her out of the way, because she really wanted Max to love her.

Tess had defied Nasedo, in order to show Max, Michael, and Isabel the place where they had all been born. She thought of them as her family. (Nasedo didn’t want the three podsters to know anything about themselves, because he wanted to control them, in order to fulfill his deal with Kivar.)

Max disregarded Tess' feelings at the cave, when he pushed her aside to tell Liz that he wanted to be with her, not Tess. He continued to unintentionally hurt Tess, as he stayed away from her over the summer while Liz was in Florida. Max avoided Tess for the most part, until the night Nasedo died. Nasedo had been the only person who cared for Tess during her entire life. Nasedo had only raised her to betray her fellow podmates, but at least he cared about her well-being.

Tess wanted to teach Max about their planet, but Max refused, because he hoped to get back together with Liz. When Liz told Max she only wanted to be with normal boys and then proved it by pretending to sleep with Kyle, Max stopped being in love with Liz. Tess thought she had a chance to be with Max. She helped him in every way that she could, because she loved him. She joined her powers with Max’s to hold off the Skins in Copper Summit, while Courtney destroyed the husks. She killed a Skin in the UFO Center, who was about to kill Maria. She killed the many Skins in the high school. She saved the podsters’ lives, when Nicholas tried to get the location of the Granilith from Max. Tess helped the others save Earth from the enemy (the Skins) who had overrun Earth and killed everyone in the first timeline.

Tess attended the Antarian Planetary System Summit in New York with Max. She supported Max and encouraged him. She held out against Lonnie and Rath’s attempts to get the location of the Granilith from her.

As Max’s love and respect for Tess were increasing over the months, Tess was increasingly hurt by the fact that Max continued to do things with Liz, even though Tess and Max had been married to each other in their previous lives, and even though Liz had abandoned Max at the cave and had pretended to sleep with Kyle right in front of Max’s eyes.

Tess was hurt that Max sat with Liz at the outdoor Christmas Eve Service.

Tess was hurt, when Max returned from the airport in Las Vegas to dance with Liz. She was hurt, when Max questioned why she gave him her gift of a sweater at the UFO Center. She was hurt when she saw Max try to help Liz, when Brody/Larek threatened Liz. She was hurt when Max told Brody/Larek that he and Tess weren’t in love and that they never had been in love.

Tess was also hurt that Max told her he was going to the prom with Liz. He told her as they had been working retrieving memories of their planet in Max’s candlelit bedroom at night. Tess didn’t know that Max hadn’t initiated the prom date with Liz. She didn’t know that they were only going as friends. She didn’t know that Max had not told Liz at the prom that he had no feelings for Tess, as he had once told Liz outside Whitaker’s office. Liz had been hoping to rekindle things with Max, but Max was unwilling to give up working with Tess, as Liz wanted him to do.

Tess was hurt, when Max wanted to talk to Liz, after he failed to heal Alex. Max didn’t go to Tess then, even though he had gone to Tess in the night to her bedroom to tell her that he remembered her.

Tess was hurt, when she saw that Max had information about Alex that he wanted to give Liz at the gathering in the Whitman’s home, following Alex’s funeral. For Tess, Max was always thinking about Liz. She didn’t know that Max had agreed with Liz not to let anyone think that Alex had committed suicide, and that he only wanted to show Liz the confidential police file, so she would understand why some people thought Alex was suicidal.

Tess loved Max and hoped that he would one day want to go the Antar with her and regain his throne. For Tess, Antar was home, just like for Liz, Earth was home. Tess wanted to return home to Antar, where she would be safe, instead hunted as an alien all her life.

Tess loved walking close to Max when they were with Michael and Isabel. She loved studying with him. She loved that he rubbed her foot, sitting very close to her, as they sat together on the floor. She loved showing Max the deserted observatory and talking with him about their planet.

Tess loved making love with Max. She was very happy. She loved that Max took her hand in his, as they walked together in the school hallway.

Tess was concerned that Max didn’t seem to be as happy as she was that she was pregnant. Tess was concerned that Max said he wanted to go to Antar someday, as opposed to saying he wanted to go to Antar as soon as possible. If Max had been super anxious to go to Antar, then it might not have mattered that Tess got Alex to do the translation, and that he had died unexpectedly from her mindwarps. If Max had talked about wanting to regain his throne, then Tess might have been reassured about Max’s goals in life.

As it was, Tess knew she had to leave Earth as soon as possible, so her continuing mindwarps wouldn’t kill Kyle, as they had Alex. She wanted to go to Antar, every bit as much as Liz later wanted to go away to Northwestern, with or without Max. Tess, like Liz, had been willing to leave Max to do what was most important to her in life.

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<STRONG>...Tess loved Kyle, like a brother. That’s why she didn’t kill him,
...Tess knew her mindwarps of Alex were coming undone, yet she took no action to kill him to prevent him talking. Rather Tess kept on mindwarping Alex. She mindwarped him multiple times, and unknown to her until too late, his mind weakened from the mindwarps and he died...</STRONG>
In season one, Tess was genuinely surprised to learn that Nasedo had killed, and, like the rest of the podsters, seemed to abhor killing. But at the end of the series, in the Crash and 4AAAB episodes, we learn that Tess kills over a dozen people to protect baby Zan. This is a tragic character development.

I have long thought that perhaps the writers always intended Tess to follow a path which would parallel Hardy's Tess of the d'Urbervilles. Here is a summary of that classic work from
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I think that S2 was my fave season- but I've only seen like 3 epps of S3 so I don't really have much 2 go on.
My fave epps have 2 be:
Viva Las Vegas: I just really luv this ep. Don't have a reason really... they were just all so happy 2gether.
The Departure: It tied all the loose ends togther of the season, I feel and Tess left.
Summer of '47: The flashbacks- wot can I say I luv em!
A Roswell Christmas Carol: I dont have a clue y I luv this episode i just do! LOL
Heart Of Mine: I luv the way they were all 2gether as a group and as couples too. Especially the CD scene b4 prom.
Cry Your Name: V. sad ep- but I luv it coz u get 2 see how they all deal with Alex's death.
My fave couple is Michael/Maria: They are so cute 2gether and I luv their luv/h8 relationship!
My least fave couple has 2 b Alex/Isabel, closely followed by Max/Liz. Alex + Izzy were gd as really gr8 friends- but i don't think their was enuf chemistry btween them. As for Max + Liz- I'm probably the most h8d person now on the msg board- but hey I'm just bein honest! boring angst is wot it is 4 me. but i was happy how things turned out at end of S3.

Was ne1 else confuddled in VLV- Tess 'n' Liz were friends then weren't they but they were both bein horrible 2 each otha.
ALso the whole Tess/Alex thing.
Alex was fine wit Maria and Liz n then suddenly he wasnt?
Also when Valenti told them Tess looked really shocked and sad. Mayb it's just me...
So cud sum1 like clarify was it actually Tess or like Kivar? I don't remember...
The whole Dupree thing with her grandfather bein the exact same as Michael was that actually explained?

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Uhh, I must respectfully disagree. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] Tess was the villian, [img]smilies/devil.gif[/img] not the victim, [img]smilies/bawl.gif[/img] from her first appearance. Tess was all about lies, deceit, and mindwarping. [img]smilies/demon.gif[/img]

Tess never had any love for Max, or anyone else. She only used others, including her fellow aliens, to get what she wanted. [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Max did not betray Tess in any way. [img]smilies/angel.gif[/img] Tess betrayed Max. And Michael. And Isabel. And Alex. And Kyle. And Jim.

We are the Borg [img]smilies/ufo.gif[/img]</STRONG>
borg- I always thought that Tess's brain was a few cards short from a full deck. If a goodbye kiss from Max to Liz, could make Tess snap in an instant and lead Max to his death on Antar, she was more unstable than I thought.

Tess had her "King" exactly where she wanted him by using the oldest human trick in the book. What supposedly noble and honorable guy like Max wouldn't stick by a girl who trapped him with a pregnancy?

As soon as Tess felt Max pulling away from her or not acting like she wanted, she used "the baby is dying from the atmosphere" card to keep Max in line.

Yes, Max and Tess loved each other in TWO lifetimes and not even death could keep them apart. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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The Destiny Book was, I think, real. Then they made Tess and Nasedo evil later. Perhaps they decided then "oh no the book was fake" but I doubt they ever thought about it.

I think I read Emilie De Ravin did not know her character was going to become evil at the time CYN was filmed.

I hate CYN because I hate angst - which is why I hate S2 M/L, despite liking S1 M/L.

I loved the Skin episodes. I liked the dupes even more - "Meet the Dupes" was my favorite S2 episode, although "Max in the City" had too many problems for me to like it as much as the other one. (Especially the Larek issue - I believe his advice to Max, to surrender, was an attempt to deceive and use Max. This indicates to me that Isabel and Michael were correct in feeling "the evil within" earlier in the season, although Max was also correct in that Brody is a good person.)

I love the relationship that developed between Kyle and Tess.

Michael and Maria were great pretty much throughout the season.

My biggest disappointment is the stupid offscreen breakup of A/I and the introduction of Grant, in the first of the boring (and worse) older guy/teen relationships on Roswell, along with the reduced role for Alex in the plot arcs.

S1 set the stage perfectly for continued A/I romance, as the other two couples and perhaps K/T got together as well. It set the stage perfectly for Alex's role continuing to grow - and his knowledge of politics would have been perfect for him playing a role in the Skin plotline.

I think Alex should have been the one to intern for Whitaker. Liz, while smart, seemed specialized in the physical sciences. Alex, despite his computer lore, showed in S&K an interest in and knowledge of politics, and his computer knowledge was never stressed to the degree that Liz's biology and chemistry knowledge was.

This would have been especially interesting given Whitaker's search for Vilandra.

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Tess mindwarped Max in the Crashdown Café, as Max was kissing Liz.




She mindwarped him in the school lab, as he walked over to her, to make him think that he kissed her on the lab table.


She mindwarped him in the rain, to make him think they had kissed each other. (She mindwarped Liz, as well, to make her think she saw Max kiss Tess in the rain.)





She mindwarped him at the library to make him think she took the alien book from the library wall. Kyle was standing right next to her, so she wouldn’t have actually held the book in her hands at the library. Otherwise, the alien book would have aroused Kyle’s curiosity. Tess also used the mindwarp to teach Max the manner of opening the cave door. She showed him that sweeping the palm of his hand across the correct spot would produce a handprint that would then trigger the opening.


She mindwarped him in an attempt to make him think that they made love together in the field where they talked about the book, the dreams, and Nesado.



Max was able to resist the mindwarp in the field. He knew he wasn’t in love with Tess, and that he wouldn’t make love to her there. Tess’ mindwarp contradicted Max’s deeply held feelings, so her mindwarp didn’t work.

When Tess mindwarped Isabel at the old military hospital to make Isabel think a man carried Tess away, Isabel then knew Tess was responsible for Max’s earlier thoughts about Tess.


ISABEL: Oh my god, what just happened?
TESS: I made you think something was happening right in front of you when it really wasn’t.
ISABEL: That’s what you did to Max, isn’t it? That’s why he had all those thoughts about you.



When Tess and Liz sat together in the jeep in Roswell, Tess mindwarped the two agents simultaneously to go to Hondo. Liz then knew that the rain kiss had been a mindwarp. Tess admitted that it had been easier to mindwarp Liz, than to make Liz see that Tess was like Max and that they belonged together, instead of Liz. She was using powers that Liz didn’t have. Tess wanted Liz to see right in front of her that Tess was an alien like Max. That’s why Tess used her powers right in front of Liz.

LIZ: Can you just do that with everyone? Make them see things that aren't even there?
TESS: Sometimes it's easier to do that than to make someone see something that's right in front of her eyes.


Tess mindwarped Max in Season Two also, as is revealed in Season Three.</STRONG>
I knew about the mindwarp thing on Max at the end of S2.
But did she really mindwarp Max, about the book and the kiss in the rain?
Also y wud she want Isabel and Michael 2 b 2gether?
I agree with Citrus + Vine- i do believe that Tess did genuinely luv Max, and Kyle and Valenti. I also dont believe that she disliked ne of the others or intentionally wanted to kill Alex.

Just watchin Cry Your Name- Liz is so harsh to Izzy and Max in Alex's bedroom!
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