LilMouse

Roswell truly deserves an E! True Hollywood story (if they still do those).

I like to think I have too much integrity and if I was a writer I wouldn't write dumb storylines for the sake of ratings.

starryeyesxx

I would be the same, but it's so obvious that that was not how the people writing Roswell felt. It's so obvious that's why the wrote Tess out & had to make her the villain too & put Max & Liz back together in 30 seconds.

LilMouse

Does it all come down to writers caring more about job security / money than what they're actually writing?
And it's sad because the writers right now probably don't even think about it or regret it. I don't even know what those writers are currently working on.

Roswell 10/2/00

it's so funny I was at NY comic con and I was at the Boy Meets World cast reunion panel and the cast talked about how in the 90's there was no continuity when it came to story lines like there is today.

They were saying how stories would be dropped and cast members would be changed. Or they would make the cast members 5 in one episode and 14 in another.

They were saying how it is nice that today that most show now respect continuity and how it develops a storyline and character so much better!

So it so fits with how Roswell was all over the place.

starryeyesxx

I can agree with that, just from watching old shows you see something huge happen one week & then it's never mentioned again. Although, some shows aren't that much better now...

& I think there are definitely television writers out there who don't really care about the writing at all, they just want to be in the business.

Roswell 10/2/00

Ok I tried to go in with an open mind. I wasn't sure what to expect. My gut was right it is a nightmare! The show is not the Roswell we know and love.

First of all the pilot opens up with the Roswell crash from 1947. Flashback to current day. Liz has left town and has to return when the funding to her science research grant is cut.

Liz moves back to town now has to work at her the Crashdown that her father owns. She hates working at the Crashdown. They have a pod cast radio Milton type guy who talks about alien and government conspires.

Liz makes up stories to the tourists like she does in the original series about meeting an alien and her father gets in on the gag.

She meets Max when he stops her on the highway along with Sherif Valenti who is now a woman for a broken tail light.

Max and Liz have not seen each other for 10 years. Everyone is in town for the 10 year high school reunion. Isabel is now married and is helping put the reunion together. But we see her more hooking up with her husband then planning a reunion. She is not the Ice Queen we all know and love.

She can now mind wrap people. She knows Max has loved Liz for a long time and mind warps Liz ten year ago to forget him so Max can stay in Roswell.

Liz also ten years ago has a sister Rosa who later dies in a car crash and kills two classmates in her senior year. The town claims her sister was on drugs and Liz's mother was mentally ill and Rosa got into drugs because of the mother. Liz's Mom passed away a few years ago. Hence why the town hates her family and why Liz vows to leave Roswell.

Michael lives in a trailer and hides the alien stuff in his trailer. He is in jail for some reason. I think because he has to leave the land or something. They didn't make that clear. Michael eventually gets out thanks to Max.

Alex is now a solder who has a hurt leg. He now wears a fake leg. He works for the military. He tells Michael he has to leave.

Maria is a bar tender and Fortune teller she is the Madam Vivian of the series. No Candies what so ever because Michael and Alex hook up.

Kyle is now a doctor he is not related to the Valentines what so ever.

Later on Liz is working late at night dancing to her sisters favorite song. Hey Mrs. potter by Counting Crows. Just like how Max would listened to Counting Crows in the original in Toy House. Liz invites Max in for a milkshake the dinner experiences a drive by shooting in regards to the hatred towards Liz's family with the deaths in town years ago.

Max heals Liz. Next day Liz goes to Kyle to have her check her out. He does a scan to see if the bullet is still there. Of course nothing. Then the hand print appears.

Max is distance to Liz after the shooting. She gives him a milkshake to thank him for saving her life. She gets a blood sample from the straw.

Later on she meets Maria they get drunk she starts to hook up with Kyle. Kyle sees the hand print and Liz leaves.

Later on Max takes Liz to the pod chamber he tells her he is an alien. Liz has questions but apologies for being a scientist. Our Liz would never do that.

They share a connection scene with them placing their hands over their hearts and get flashes from childhood and high school. Liz sees how Max loved her all along and Max invites her to the reunion.

Mean while Kyle asks the Military about seeing hand prints they then take Kyle to an underground bunker and show him a top secret lab. I think this was in the books.

Max and Liz go to the reunion everyone is shocked she came and she starts to leave when Maria plays her sisters favorite song and they dance at the end. Max reveals he has something to so with the death of Liz's sister Rosa to Isabel and Michael and that Liz can never know. Michael and Alex kiss and Kyle learns more about the Hand Print people in the secret government cave.

The end.

Julie Plec and Candice talked about how they wanted the story to be about cowboys. So they made it Cowboys and Aliens. Then they went on and on about how diverse the cast is. Which is great and all but that is all they talked about was diversity. No taking about character storyline or plot.

Also it was so political. They made it so obvious from the start. Sometimes I just want to escape into a story with out an agenda. We get enough of the news daily with politics that sometimes you need a break.

Candice said how she loves the original. I am not so sure. This show didn't have the same magic or feel. They also started to name drop a lot Julie Plec and Candice saying how Shiri Appleby will direct the third episode. So that was cool to hear. Then Julie was going on and on how she is a good friends with Jason Behr and how he was at Candice's Birthday party. They said it was because of Candice and Julie that the original cast reunited and is hanging out more.

Wrong the original cast has always been close! Majandra was in Katherine Wedding a few years back. Nick and Katherine are friends so is Brendan and Majandra. The cast reunited in 2014 at the Austin Television festival. I hate how they just named dropped to look like see we respect the original.

The two main actors who play Max and Liz were there at the talk as well. They talked about how they had worked together on Bun Heads but had to be reminded of who the other was in the audition. I would of loved to have know if they had watched the original and what they wanted to bring to the character in the remake but again they talked about all about diversity with the cast.

Julie Plec went on and on about the chemistry between Max and Liz and how good it was. She said how she never saw better chemistry! I am sorry but they are not Jason and Shiri or Brendan and Majandra for that matter. The two leads had no chemistry what so ever! Just because you have worked with someone in the past does not give you a pass for great cemetery.

At times the pilot felt so rushed and thrown together. It was like they had a list and were just checking off the boxes. Hand Print check, shooting check, crashdown check.

Also the Crashdown was not decorated on the inside so you didn't see it was a theme restaurant like in the original. All you saw was a neon sign saying Crashdown.

It was so confusing to tell who was Max and who was Michael and you didn't know what character was which until they said their name.

I noticed how when the pilot aired how no one really clapped or cheered during it when they would cut to a different scene. No one clapped during the shooting scene. Some clapped at the end.

Also Julie Plec talked about her first time directing and the challenges they faced. She didn't realize they needed more town and dessert shorts in the pilot. Hello your show is called Roswell New Mexico and you didn't think to have shots of the town! :faceplam:

There were no shots of the high school just the reunion party. We never saw the Evans house or any of the houses in the town. Liz does not have a balcony.

One shot was a carbon copy from our pilot when Max and Isabel are found in the dessert at night by the Evans.

David Nutter did a stellar job directing our pilot. It was pure magic! So well done. He captured the world perfectly.

Over all I hope it crashes and burns! No chemistry or magic what so ever! The really was the titanic of ideas.

Leave our Roswell alone! If Candice, Julie, and the CW think this is a homage to Roswell and to the fans they are wrong! This was such a slap in the face to all of us die hards who fought to get Roswell on the air for 3 seasons!

Roswell was a feeling like no other. The CW has no idea what fandom they are dealing with!

There is only ONE Roswell! 19 years later we still believe!

starryeyesxx

I'm surprised you gave it a chance, I had no interest in watching this show at all, like I said before, I really don't see it lasting very long

Are you gonna keep watching it?

starryeyesxx

I'm surprised you gave it a chance, I had no interest in watching this show at all, like I said before, I really don't see it lasting very long

Are you gonna keep watching it?

LilMouse

It baffles me that the writers could get away with things like that.

How dare they!

Isn't this almost like the book? I feel like BookLiz also had a sister who died because of drugs.

Roswell 10/2/00

At least I saw it for free! No way am I giving this rating or my time. It's a midseason premiere they don't have a date so maybe it will never happen or if it does maybe it will be like Star Crossed. That was midseason and didn't last long.

In the books Liz does have a sister. I also think that the secret goverment bunker is in the books as well. Either then that I didn't see anything book related. In the books they are in High school not 28 years old like in this one!

The moderator of the panel said I loved all of the easter eggs you but in from the original show. What easter eggs they were talking about I have no idea. They got all excited saying they are doing more easter eggs and mentioning Tess but not in a good light.

I was done by that point.

Oh and the aliens drink nail polish remover in this one. Not tabasco. Max drinks it after Isabel gives it to him after saving Liz. It's insane. The whole thing is a mess.

fetch

I would give this show a shot and I hope they have a Tess but don't make an obvious love triangle like the original. The original was so intent on having Max and Liz be ~soulmates~ or one true love or whatever and once Tess was involved in that it was obvious she couldn't stay.

LilMouse

ugh They shouldn't even bother bringing her in or mentioning her. Plec and the other one won't try to do anything creative or new with the character, just try to placate the masses with the same high school cattiness.

Roswell 10/2/00

There is no Tess in the new show. Julie and Candice made that clear.

However you know Plec with her love triangles she loves those! Her main ship so far is Max and Liz and I am pretty sure Michael and Alex. From the screen time that I saw I think they are her main ships. They were used the most.

LilMouse

Well, at least this time around Alex has more to do. In the original he was kind of a non-entity for me.

fetch

Ugh love triangles are the worst.

If they want to get diverse and crazy though, they should have a Tess come be with Isabel and have Isabel figure out her sexuality and an open marriage