Roswell - Rebel Alliance #261: "I would have felt it if something happened to him." - Page 9

**Roswell 10/2/00** · 03-24-2015, 04:07 PM

Glad you are feeling so passionate about your feelings.

Please lets get back on topic but feel free to PM and talk more.

Do you think Max would of been different to Tess if the group was not against her?

Do you think the others would of stopped being selfish and thanked Tess for saving them?

When did you become a Rebel and why?

Subject · 03-24-2015, 10:49 PM

Is it Erin? Or Jenn? I'm sorry when I came back to FF I kept thinking Jenn still is on Roswell but I don't recall if that was you or Dreamer_4_Ever. I am so terrible at names...

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Do you think Max would of been different to Tess if the group was not against her?

Yes, but he was still in love with Liz. I think Tess and him would have gotten together a little sooner. I would have liked to see her develop more meaningful relationship with everyone. Especially Isabel since she was so alone as the only female of the group. Then she found Tess and nothing happened between them...where was the female alien bonding.

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Do you think the others would of stopped being selfish and thanked Tess for saving them?

It can be hard for people to stop being selfish. Still the problem was mostly Liz. She hated Tess so those who cared about her followed.. That is what friend's do though. They support you if you dislike someone mostly from my experience girl friends do that a lot.

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When did you become a Rebel and why?

Well,.... I didn't really mean to...but all the cool kids were doing it... so... I tried it and just became addicted.

I just really love the idea of destiny that somewhere out there is someone for everyone.

**LilMouse** · 03-25-2015, 05:52 PM

WOw, I missed a lot

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Do you think Max would of been different to Tess if the group was not against her?

I think Max wouldn't have been so distant if the group liked Tess, but I don't see him getting together with her, at least not right off the bat. I think a friendship would've built up and trust, but I don't see Max wanting to be with Tess until he was ready to be a king.

**Roswell 10/2/00** · 03-26-2015, 08:49 AM

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Is it Erin? Or Jenn? I'm sorry when I came back to FF I kept thinking Jenn still is on Roswell but I don't recall if that was you or Dreamer_4_Ever. I am so terrible at names...

It's Erin Subject. Jen Dreamer4Ever left as MOD back in 2011. She still posts sometimes on FF but not very often.

I still talk to her and see her when I can. I also try to visit her in CA. Last time I was in CA visiting her was in 2012. It was a lot of fun touring Covina and seeing the Roswell sights.

Love your reasons for becoming a Rebel.

I also found there story to be interesting and so heatbreaking being all Tess wanted was for him to remember her and love her.

I agree Max and Tess would fof been friends and it would of progressed.

I think for the opening of the page we should have their story. We also have screen caps of Max and Tess in Alien form and of Antar from the flashes Brody gets in Off The Menu.

Off the Menu

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BRODY: Nobody comes in, and nobody goes out. We’ll all just stay here together. Like one big, happy family. (Labored breathing. He walks over to Tess and Max. Talking to Tess and taking an alien mannequin) Excuse me, love. Just need to borrow your cousin for a while. (He starts back toward the pile but stops walking suddenly and turns back around. Gets a knowing look on his face) That’s it!
MAX: What?
BRODY: Dimaras rock. I couldn’t remember before but the name just came to me. Dimaras, after the third moon. That’s where you two first met. You must remember? Dimaras rock, it it juts out over the water. Ah, I can see it so clearly. The moon hanging over the horizon, (Tess closes her eyes, remembering) And the color of the water…crimson red. I was there with you before you were king. (Max gives Brody an incredulous look) We were swimming, and you looked up, and saw her on a rock. You said she was the most beautiful girl you’d ever seen. (Max looks to Tess, who looks back) But of course you were too afraid to go talk to her. I offered to make the approach on your behalf, but you told me not to. (Max looks back to Brody) Back then you were always so nervous and quiet. (Brody chuckles) But lucky for you I was neither shy nor obedient. (Tess remembering) So I went and met her and introduced you two the same night… (Brody chuckles)
TESS: (Quietly)…at a party. (Max looks at her, still looking dumbfounded. He then turns back to Brody)
MAX: That’s a nice story.
BRODY: It’s not a story. It’s the truth. Don’t you remember?

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(That night, Max comes in through Tess’s bedroom window.)
TESS: Max? Max, what is it?
MAX: Well, when I healed Brody…I saw these -- these flashes, of Brody, of Larek, but also…
TESS: but also what?
MAX: I remember you.
(She cries and Max wipes the tear off her cheek)

Heart of Mine

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[Scene switches to Max's bedroom again. Max and Tess are holding hands still on the bed, facing each other, there's a lot of candle light going on.]
TESS: I see you. You're swimming on your back. The water's much thicker than the water here on Earth. Heavier. It's not quite liquid but not quite solid. As you swim through it, the water reforms around your body and it feels like you're swimming in...
MAX: Jello. I remember. I remember it. I remember the water.
MAX: Oh my God, you did it. You made me remember.

The scene switches back to Max's bedroom. He and Tess are still sitting together on his bed.]
TESS: What else do you remember?
MAX: Three moons, burnt orange, no clouds, very surreal, like a painting.
TESS: What else?
MAX: I need a break.
[Max gets up off the bed.]
TESS: It takes time. You know, every thing's blurry at first, but eventually, the images just get clearer and clearer.
MAX: How clear are your memories?
TESS: Most are still blurry, but a few, a few are clearer and more real to me than anything here in this world.
MAX: Do you remember me?
TESS: Yeah.
MAX: What was I like?
TESS: I remember when you used to reach over and touch me in the middle of the night and when you used to hold me.

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MAX: I remembered something else. I don't know how to feel about it.
TESS: What do you remember?
MAX: Our first kiss. It was at a party... late at night. And you...
TESS: I, I leaned in... and whispered in your ear and then you touched my cheek...
MAX: and then we just...

Max In The City

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TESS: Whatever you do...it'll be the right choice. I'm sure of it.
MAX: Why?
TESS: Because despite whatever Nicholas said about you in there, I know that you were a great man in that other life. A great king. I know it in my bones.
MAX: All you've ever done...is trust me, been there for me whenever I needed you. I've never done anything to deserve that kind of loyalty.
TESS: I think in that other life...you must have been one great husband.

**LilMouse** · 03-26-2015, 05:54 PM

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I think for the opening of the page we should have their story.

Like in the OP?

Anyone able to put it together and make it pretty?

Subject · 03-28-2015, 03:20 AM

Does anyone else think that perfect song for Tess/Max is "A Thousand Years" from Tess' perspective of course.

Or do I just love the song too much.

Sorry for my "rant" on feminism and gender rights. I just believe that all people should be equal and I don't see that happening with the current system.

I think the song "Run" by Leona Lewis would have been perfect for Tess and Max when she was leaving...granted in my mind under very different circumstances then the writers made us lose them.

**starryeyesxx** · 03-28-2015, 06:35 AM

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The hate from the fandom often comes from other girls or women. So the women who hate her do so because they love that male character. It's really not the men who care that much about it. I mean take Roswell... I only remember a handful of men ever being on the board. Yet the hate for Tess and other female characters were the majority of most of the posts. Women/Girls hate each other more than they believe men could ever hate them. Especially when it comes to fictional characters.

I didn't say it was hate coming from men for that female character...I said fandom, & most of the fandoms that I see are mostly filled with females, I think that they internalize that misogyny & then it probably feeds into their own self-esteem & relationships.

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Men and boys face a lot of problems in today's world. Problems that often go ignored by feminists who are supposed to care about equal rights not just women's rights. Often feminists tend to use bad data to claim facts like the myth of a pay gap, the 1 in 5 rape statistic, and ignore domestic violence women do against men, or the rapes and violence women do to children.

Feminism is a massively broad movement made up of a lot of different sectors who have different ideas of what it is/should be & some of is very damaging in differeny ways: i.e. to men, to women, to different races, different religions people with disabilities etc. So it's pretty easy to find something damaging about it if you want to. But I do think that overall it does more good than harm, a lot of feminists are trying to help men too, they're trying to break down the concepts of 'be a man' 'man up' etc. & make it ok for men & boys to act in ways that were previously considered 'feminine' where they would have risked being mocked, perhaps even violence in some cases. It's far from perfect & I agree that people are not equal in the current system at all, & it's going to take a long long time to get there.

I don't really know how we got here from talking about Max's controlling behavior towards, Liz, but I'm not really interested in discussing it anymore. You don't have to agree with me & I don't think you will, so let's just agree to disagree.

Subject · 03-28-2015, 06:56 AM

Sophie - As Erin asked, rightly so that our conversation be moved. I have sent you a PM.

**LilMouse** · 03-28-2015, 08:23 AM

I can see A Thousand Years being a Max/Tess song.
That was the one used in the Twilight saga, right?

**Roswell 10/2/00** · 03-28-2015, 08:42 PM

Yes it was used in the Twilight Breaking Dawn part 1 and 2 movie. Great song for them.

**starryeyesxx** · 03-29-2015, 03:00 AM

**LilMouse** · 03-29-2015, 07:01 AM

^ did you ever notice how when Tess goes to talk to Kyle, Max turns around to look?

**starryeyesxx** · 03-29-2015, 08:11 AM

Oh, I don't think I caught that!

I just like how he seems to be smiling at her in the middle left gif, & then just staring in the bottom left till he realizes that Isabel is talking

**LilMouse** · 03-29-2015, 11:20 AM

yes, I like all of that too. When Liz wasn't around, he wasn't a total pr++k to her.

**starryeyesxx** · 03-30-2015, 02:57 AM

He had his moments - I can't wait to get more into s2 though when their scenes are better, like MITC

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