Roswell - RBI # 5 : The sci-fi in Roswell - Page 19

Reggie · 07-04-2009, 02:34 PM

Are you sure that isn't just the "hook" for a sequel?

KenL · 07-05-2009, 05:35 PM

X Files is one of those series that ends with some kind of a cliffhanger. I went to the X Files movie released last year, X Files: I Believe. During the credits Mulder and Scully are seen together in swimsuits on a boat in a tropical ocean, casually rowing towards an island. The scene is shot from a helicopter whose shadow is visible to the audience. The director said if the movie was successful they would film another that returned to the alien theme. The movie did not do well in the United States but it did well outside of the U.S. It cost 30 million to film and it made nearly 69 million world wide.

xmag · 07-13-2009, 06:52 AM

Isn't Chris Carter going to shoot another X-files movie to be released in 2012 and focused on the mythology of the show? The series ended with the revelation that the end of the world was for 2012, after all.

I loved the series but I didn't go to see the movie. Maybe the next one.

KenL · 07-15-2009, 09:15 AM

I hope he does film another movie........I am a fan of X Files. The closest series to X Files on TV today is Fringe. It will be returning this autumn.........

KenL · 07-19-2009, 01:47 PM

Max could not heal Grandma, but he could heal the children in the hospital...........is that logical?

xmag · 07-20-2009, 06:13 AM

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Max could not heal Grandma, but he could heal the children in the hospital...........is that logical?

Well, yeah. Cancer is a disease and even human medicine can cure cancer. Now, if your heart is too... old, too tired, you can't do anything. On a younger person, it's possible but on an older person? Nothing can be done. I think that it was that, Max couldn't regenerate Claudia's heart. There was nothing to cure.

Reggie · 07-25-2009, 04:32 PM

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Well, yeah. Cancer is a disease and even human medicine can cure cancer. Now, if your heart is too... old, too tired, you can't do anything. On a younger person, it's possible but on an older person? Nothing can be done. I think that it was that, Max couldn't regenerate Claudia's heart. There was nothing to cure.

I agree. But wasn't it a stroke that got her?
Which is even more to the point. Once some brain death occurs, the info in that tissue is also gone. The kids weren't dead, just ill.
And Liz wasn't brain-dead yet, either. (That happened in S3...

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xmag · 07-27-2009, 05:36 AM

I am sad that Claudia couldn't be saved, she was such a great character. But I think it was important for Max's powers to have a limit. He couldn't cheat death, when it's time, it's time and here, Claudia was old, she might have had cardiac problems in the past and her heart was too old and damaged. So technically, it was her time to go because Max can't do anything against old age or old organs.

Reggie · 08-09-2009, 12:06 PM

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I am sad that Claudia couldn't be saved, she was such a great character. But I think it was important for Max's powers to have a limit.

I agree. For there to be reasonable dramatic conflict, the two sides need to be on some kind of par. Remember when Buffy the Vampire Slayer was confronted with a god? It had to be handicapped, and so Buffy could take advantage of the handicap. For Max to be omnipotant, in any thing, would be too much. Same thing goes for adversaries.

KenL · 08-22-2009, 07:24 PM

Max couldn't heal Claudia but he could cure cancer in children.

Perhaps Max had to heal all those kids to restore his balance, and his powers.....

Reggie · 09-06-2009, 12:27 PM

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Max couldn't heal Claudia but he could cure cancer in children.

Perhaps Max had to heal all those kids to restore his balance, and his powers.....

Was he off-balance at that point? He did not seem to have lost any of his powers.

rainydreams · 09-07-2009, 11:39 AM

^I don't think Max was off-balance power wise. He was emotionally off-balance, which is why he wanted/needed to save the kids. There is no evidence that his powers weren't working completely normally at that time. And, for the record, ITA with the discussion above. Cancer is an illness that causes tumors that can be removed by surgery, or the cancer cells can be killed by chemo, therefore it is buyable that Max's healing power could do what advanced medicine is capable of. He could kill or remove the cancer cells without injuring the healthy cells. Makes sense to me.

And continuing on with your discussion, it was wise to have Max unable to heal Grandma Claudia, so we could see a limit to his power. However, if I had to play devil's advocate, I would say that he probably, technically could have healed her to some degree. Sure, he could not stop/heal/reverse old age. That much is true. But, if she had a stroke, which is caused by a clot in the arteries that stops oxygen to the brain- then I am positive that Max could have unblocked the clot. Additionally, he could have probably healed the damage to her brain (b/c he healed the damage to Brody's brain at the end of S2). So, he could have saved her in that instance--unless as someone pointed out-- the brain tissue was already dead. But, he probably couldn't have healed the underlying conditions that caused the stroke, since those were related to old-age. So, even if he had been able to heal her at that moment, she most likely would have had another stroke, anyway. It's a can of worms, better left unopened, I think.

Plus, in Max's defense, he hadn't really used his powers much prior to S1. Liz was the first and only human he had ever even attempted to heal. He knew that there was a bullet in her and that she was bleeding. He assumed he could dissolve/alter the bullet and heal the tissue. I don't think he understood the ins and outs of Grandma Claudia's condition, therefore, he assumed it was a "natural death" and one that he could not reverse in any way.

GrhmLz · 09-07-2009, 08:58 PM

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Plus, in Max's defense, he hadn't really used his powers much prior to S1. Liz was the first and only human he had ever even attempted to heal. He knew that there was a bullet in her and that she was bleeding. He assumed he could dissolve/alter the bullet and heal the tissue. I don't think he understood the ins and outs of Grandma Claudia's condition, therefore, he assumed it was a "natural death" and one that he could not reverse in any way.

I also think it's relevant to bring up the discussion Max had with Liz when she asked him to heal her grandmother. Max makes it a point to stress to Liz that he's not God; however, he goes on to parallel the two situations by explaining that what was happening to Liz was something that shouldn't have been happening - there was a bullet in her that shouldn't have been there. I think this kind of hints at the idea that there is a "higher power" out there in the universe somewhere that still gets the "final say" so to speak even if Max's healing power can technically heal Grandma Claudia's physical ailments relating to her stroke and the ones relating to Liz's bullet wound. That's why Max tried to help her say good-bye but ultimately Grandma Claudia died anyway because it was her time to go. Liz didn't die and Max's healing worked because just like Max said - something was happening to her that shouldn't have been happening. How he knew that for sure? Well, your guess is as good as mine but maybe he was able to know before-hand due to some kind of sixth sense ability or maybe he didn't realize it fully until after his healing worked on her and she survived.

Because later - if we go by Liz's discussion with Max after he healed the kids with cancer, Liz reminded him of the same thing he told her. He's not God - and there might be a higher purpose behind the cancer that goes beyond their understanding. I think originally just healing Sydney's cancer was meant to restore the balance because like Liz, maybe it wasn't her time, but he took it beyond that point when he healed more kids. Unfortunately, I think that's further proof of just how emotionally unbalanced and out of sorts Max was feeling because we can clearly see that during Leaving Normal, Max had the gifted ability to discern that it wasn't Liz's time to go so he was able to heal her - adversed to her grandmother, who's time had come and he wasn't going to be able to stop her "natural death." This can get pretty deep so I'll stop there, lol.

KenL · 09-15-2009, 12:08 PM

I did not agree with Liz when I first watched that episode. I do not buy the idea that he should have allowed the children to died for some alleged higher purpose. I do not think a child dying of cancer serves any higher purpose. I can understand some medical conditions cannot be healed. I think that Grandma Claudia's stroke fits into that category.