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Old 06-14-2009, 10:07 PM
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Coccy, those caps are marvelous! That's one of my favorite scenes.


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Max was lost and sure enough human Liz didn't need dirty tricks and powers in order to make him like that or make him notice her or make him see her in slow motion (the convention )
Nope. Liz was just herself and Max was a goner. It was all au naturel.


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you can notice weird shoes in the scene from sexual healing when they're in the girls locker room (but also in departure. She was wearing hells while they were running down the mountain )
I've always wondered how Shiri ran down that hill with those heels she had on.


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(love the look they shared when they saw the shower, you just know that they're picturing the fantasy all over again. sexy! )
I love the looks too. Max and Liz were adorable and sexy!


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( i love how he said "definitely .. definitely could've been" )
Me too. Even though it was Liz's fantasy, Max defintely didn't have a problem with it.


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love it
"I didn't just see what you saw. I felt...what you felt...when you saw me."
and he was so sweet <3 he couldn't believe that she saw him like that... what a sweetheart <3
Liz on the other hand couldn't believe that he couldn't believe it
apart from the simple fact that he's hot as hell and every girl could think about him like that, Liz never saw him as the "alien monster"
thinking about him that way was the most natural thing for her
Awww, I just wanted to give Max a hug thinking that Liz couldn't want and love him. I'm glad that Liz proved to Max that she loved all of him - body and soul. Liz always accepted Max from the very beginning, even going as far as pushing him towards "destiny," which she learned was a big mistake.


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that's another thing i love about them, the way they accept each other without having to even think about it. For them it's simply natural.
Liz never wanted him to change himself for her, he loved him for him and she didn't care if he was an alien or another thing. She saw inside him, she saw *him*, his real self, what is the most important thing, and she loved *him*.
she always accepted him and the word "accepted" isn't even correct for her because she didn't even think that she had to accept him, in the first place. he just was Max, the guy she loved. period.
Perfectly said!
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:06 AM
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I love that scene. My favorite part is when Liz goes to walk away in utter embarrassment and Max calls her back all sweet and nervous, lol. It was perfect until the gym teacher ruined the moment yelling for Liz.

And the way he delivered this line:

So HAWT.
that was the hottest thing ever
to feel what the other is feeling it's simply amazing
remember Liz said the same thing in the pilot "i could feel everything he was feeling"
they're one intense couple.


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Nope. Liz was just herself and Max was a goner. It was all au naturel.
and most important he never thought that she was a man (Nacedo) using a female body in order to seduce him


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I've always wondered how Shiri ran down that hill with those heels she had on.
really they weren't the most suitable shoes


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I love the looks too. Max and Liz were adorable and sexy!



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Me too. Even though it was Liz's fantasy, Max defintely didn't have a problem with it.
he didn't know if it was his of hers for obvious reasons LOL
so he had to understand


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Awww, I just wanted to give Max a hug thinking that Liz couldn't want and love him. I'm glad that Liz proved to Max that she loved all of him - body and soul. Liz always accepted Max from the very beginning, even going as far as pushing him towards "destiny," which she learned was a big mistake.
it's not easy to understand how he could feel in that moment. You watch him he's handsome and he has a beautiful soul.. every woman would love him.
but for him it's different because he's different. He always felt insecure because of his origins
we can say that Max never pretended to be who he wasn't because he always was very "realistic" about himself and at the same time Liz never pretended that he wasn't alien (sometimes she even was the one who reminded him that), it simply wasn't *the* problem for her.
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Old 06-15-2009, 05:24 AM
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true we never got other informations about her, who knows where she's.
Living her life, away from the other rejects. I hope she's happy.
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Old 06-15-2009, 07:08 AM
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hoping that the other two didn't find her... anyway it was about time for her to get away from Lonnie and Rath!

in the books i remember that she was the only one (dupe) who survived and she was a possible future love interest for Kyle (granted even if i liked the whole thing people could hate me because they see Tess in me.. but Kyle and the others cared about her and he didn't confuse her with Tess) and she changed the color of her hair (if i'm not wrong she became redhead)
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:24 AM
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Old 06-15-2009, 04:53 PM
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Welcome Brilliant Highlights!


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that was the hottest thing ever
to feel what the other is feeling it's simply amazing
remember Liz said the same thing in the pilot "i could feel everything he was feeling"
they're one intense couple.
Max and Liz were one intense couple with an amazing bond.


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and most important he never thought that she was a man (Nacedo) using a female body in order to seduce him
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he didn't know if it was his of hers for obvious reasons LOL
so he had to understand
That was too cute.


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it's not easy to understand how he could feel in that moment. You watch him he's handsome and he has a beautiful soul.. every woman would love him.
but for him it's different because he's different. He always felt insecure because of his origins
we can say that Max never pretended to be who he wasn't because he always was very "realistic" about himself and at the same time Liz never pretended that he wasn't alien (sometimes she even was the one who reminded him that), it simply wasn't *the* problem for her.
I agree. Max was vulnerable and it took a lot for him to come out from behind the tree and take a chance with Liz. Max told Liz that it was fate that brought them together, and that started them on their journey to falling in love. Max and Liz never pretended to be something that they weren't, and though their road to true love was rocky it was meant to be.
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Old 06-16-2009, 02:21 AM
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Welcome Brilliant Highlights! what a cute nickname


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Max and Liz were one intense couple with an amazing bond.
i think that they have a great intimacy for this reason too. because they're not only very passionate toward each other and they have a great attraction and ust... they also have a connection that goes beyond physical
i can't imagine what it means to experience such a powerful bond.. to feel what the other is feeling. It's amazing.


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So true!
it's just too funny how people forget about this "detail"
who knows maybe Max was gay and he didn't know it
but from what i saw when he was with Liz i doubt it so i will think that he obviously couldn't know that Tess was actually a woman because the fantasies weren't his. Otherwise he would have realized that she was a "she" without any doubt, i guess



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That was too cute.
i wish they didn't cut a part of that fantasy i remember watching the rest in the gag reel of season 1

He enveloped her in the towel







this was the scene from roswell uncut:

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TEASER

INT. GIRL'S LOCKER ROOM - SHOWER STALL

Liz is taking a shower (Liz's voice over). She shuts the shower
off and turns. That's when she notices that the entire locker
room is COMPLETLY EMPTY, eerily silent.

Then, in slow motion, Max appears at the end of the locker
room. The two share a long, knowing look. Liz turns to look
for a towel, but when she turns back, Max is right near her,
in the stall.

Another loaded, uncertain, erotic moment. Max reaches up and
grabs Liz's towel. He wraps her up in it. She doesn't stop
him, but rather allows herself to be enveloped. They move
colser to each other, aching for that magic kiss.


And then Maria crashes into frame:
Liz, nice strawberries.
the fantasy is already hot in the definitive version too but i don't understand why they cut the rest. too risqué? well they have other scenes that are hotter and explicit

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I agree. Max was vulnerable and it took a lot for him to come out from behind the tree and take a chance with Liz. Max told Liz that it was fate that brought them together, and that started them on their journey to falling in love.
Notice how in the first season he was the protective one who didn't want to start a relationship with her because he was scared and he didn't want to put her in danger while Liz had the words "kiss me now" written all over her face everytime they were together and she didn't care about danger.
Then in the second season they switched roles.
Max was the one chasing her and he didn't care about destiny, diversity etc etc. He understood that they had to be together because they couldn't deny their love for each other. Especially after the white room. Remember how in destiny he even said it? he didn't want to lose precious time again. But Liz on the other hand became the scared one who didn't want to be with him because she wanted to protect him and she saw herself as a problem for him.
Then in the third season they finally were the same especially after chant down babylon
They understood that they couldn't deny their love for each other and after so much pain they were sick of being separated and miserable and they just wanted to be together, no matter what. They tried, they won.
3 seasons and each of them is a different stage of a relationship, for me.


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Max and Liz never pretended to be something that they weren't, and though their road to true love was rocky it was meant to be.
they didn't even boast about their love, if you think about it.
It was always other people, the writers, the facts of the story, that said that they were unique and soulmates but M&L never called them selves like that (even if they considered the other their soulmate for obvious reason but it was natural) and they never said that they were better than other people. For them they just loved each other and they wanted to be together and happy. For them it was more a matter of facts than words.
There're many couples from many tv-shows who call them selves soulmates or epic but they're only words.
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Old 06-16-2009, 02:22 AM
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Old 06-16-2009, 06:56 PM
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the fantasy is already hot in the definitive version too but i don't understand why they cut the rest. too risqué? well they have other scenes that are hotter and explicit
I remember seeing some of that somewhere. I actually prefer the one the aired. The original felt a bit too awkward with Maria there.

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Notice how in the first season he was the protective one who didn't want to start a relationship with her because he was scared and he didn't want to put her in danger while Liz had the words "kiss me now" written all over her face everytime they were together and she didn't care about danger.
Then in the second season they switched roles.
Always being pulled apart some how! IDK why but I seemed to symphasize more with Max's reason for pulling away from Liz than Liz's reasons for pulling away from Max. I think it's obvious how Max feels about Liz, how much he loves her, how much he wants to be with her after the events of Destiny and I don't understand how she can even think that now Max is suppose to just flip a switch and start loving Tess. I know she was crushed by the news but still, that's not giving credit to Max and their love.
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Old 06-17-2009, 02:17 AM
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I remember seeing some of that somewhere. I actually prefer the one the aired. The original felt a bit too awkward with Maria there.
it was funny that she suddenly appeared with the "Liz, nice strawberries" but i agree that it was awkward



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Always being pulled apart some how! IDK why but I seemed to symphasize more with Max's reason for pulling away from Liz than Liz's reasons for pulling away from Max. I think it's obvious how Max feels about Liz, how much he loves her, how much he wants to be with her after the events of Destiny and I don't understand how she can even think that now Max is suppose to just flip a switch and start loving Tess. I know she was crushed by the news but still, that's not giving credit to Max and their love.
i always kinda felt the same
But i think that Liz just felt that she was a problem for him. Not that he made her think that but *she* felt that he had more important things to think about. She didn't want him to not be a king and "save" his planet for her fault.
I think that she also felt like someone who couldn't *help* him because she wasn't alien. The truth is that Liz wasn't giving credit to *herself*.
Of course we know thanks to FMax that she was giving up but then they tried to change the future and she stayed away from Max for longer
At the same time i think that Max kinda felt like that in the middle of season 2. He wanted to be with her, he still loved her but at the same time he didn't want to hold her back from reaching her potential as a person, he didn't want to hold her back from growing up for his fault.


Max and Liz had a similar character yet very different. Max always was more passionate, the kind of man who is always like "i love you i don't care about the rest" this doesn't mean that he was selfish or irresponsible, he just didn't let other people influence him and what he wanted and he wanted to have the right to love who he wanted.
I believe that if it will be needed, really needed, he will be able to be a king and Liz's husband without any problems.
Liz on the other hand always was way more rational.
The funny thing is both of them were controlled people and both of them "got rid" of this" flaw" only when they were together.. still sometimes you can see it. They're very protective toward each other and this can mean that sometimes they can make choices thinking that it's the best for the other one but the truth is that sometimes it isn't. Sometimes you have to be... more selfish.
By the end of the show i think that they both understood that the best thing for them was to work together about things and Liz started to really take the advice of grandma Claudia, she followed her heart.
love doesn't give you a real choice.
Max didn't want her to be in danger for his fault and Liz didn't want Max to be in danger for her fault. But in the end it wasn't something that they could really control and they loved each other too much.
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Old 06-17-2009, 05:45 AM
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i think that they have a great intimacy for this reason too. because they're not only very passionate toward each other and they have a great attraction and ust... they also have a connection that goes beyond physical
i can't imagine what it means to experience such a powerful bond.. to feel what the other is feeling. It's amazing.




it's just too funny how people forget about this "detail"
who knows maybe Max was gay and he didn't know it
but from what i saw when he was with Liz i doubt it so i will think that he obviously couldn't know that Tess was actually a woman because the fantasies weren't his. Otherwise he would have realized that she was a "she" without any doubt, i guess





i wish they didn't cut a part of that fantasy i remember watching the rest in the gag reel of season 1

He enveloped her in the towel







this was the scene from roswell uncut:



the fantasy is already hot in the definitive version too but i don't understand why they cut the rest. too risqué? well they have other scenes that are hotter and explicit



Notice how in the first season he was the protective one who didn't want to start a relationship with her because he was scared and he didn't want to put her in danger while Liz had the words "kiss me now" written all over her face everytime they were together and she didn't care about danger.
Then in the second season they switched roles.
Max was the one chasing her and he didn't care about destiny, diversity etc etc. He understood that they had to be together because they couldn't deny their love for each other. Especially after the white room. Remember how in destiny he even said it? he didn't want to lose precious time again. But Liz on the other hand became the scared one who didn't want to be with him because she wanted to protect him and she saw herself as a problem for him.
Then in the third season they finally were the same especially after chant down babylon
They understood that they couldn't deny their love for each other and after so much pain they were sick of being separated and miserable and they just wanted to be together, no matter what. They tried, they won.
3 seasons and each of them is a different stage of a relationship, for me.




they didn't even boast about their love, if you think about it.
It was always other people, the writers, the facts of the story, that said that they were unique and soulmates but M&L never called them selves like that (even if they considered the other their soulmate for obvious reason but it was natural) and they never said that they were better than other people. For them they just loved each other and they wanted to be together and happy. For them it was more a matter of facts than words.
There're many couples from many tv-shows who call them selves soulmates or epic but they're only words.
do you by any chance remember where you found that cut scene?
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:25 AM
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well i found the script on ---> roswell uncut --> Roswell Uncut
the caps --> Roswell Television Show/Fan Site/Definitive Dreamer Dictionary/Jason Behr
made from the gag reel of season 1 that you can watch here
YouTube - Roswell Gag Reel Season 1
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That scene was cut from Sexual Healing because at the time it was considered too racy to be seen on TV. Now a days that sene would be considered innocent. It is amazing how much has changed in 10 years!

The season one gag reel is a riot!
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oic yeah that was pretty funny!
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That scene was cut from Sexual Healing because at the time it was considered too racy to be seen on TV. Now a days that sene would be considered innocent. It is amazing how much has changed in 10 years!

The season one gag reel is a riot!
true. compared to what we see today that scene was innocent.
it was innocent compared to their other scenes too, anyway
like the "just friends?" one from the same episode, how Liz saw the stars and all the sounds she made
they have many make out scenes through the series and they're more explicit than actually sex scenes especially the ones in the show

maybe they did cut it because the episode was already full of sexy scenes.
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