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| ok.....i will reply to you but i have to make it clear that *i know* to whom i'm talking with and i perfectly know why you're here. call me malicious but unfortunately i'm not blind ![]() Quote:
or at least you're technical but only toward Shiri ![]() i don't even understand if you state what are facts or personal opinions for you because you make it seems that no one can find her sexy also if i can be honest after reading your reply i still don't understand how someone should be/look, for you, in order to be sexy. and this only further shows how there're no rules to follow and sexiness is a very subjective thing, for you too. Quote:
To me Shiri is sexy in a very natural way, she doesn't force it like the others do. She's the kind of woman who doesn't even realize that she can seduce and to me this is when someone is really sexy. she doesn't need to look like that or use dirty tricks in order to appear sexy. to me being sexy isn't a matter of looks or how someone carries himself/herself. the more you want to be sexy the more you aren't, for me. it seems to me that for you someone is sexy only if she does certain things and follow some "instructions". maybe a "How to be sexy for dummies" book but in reality there's more than a way to be sexy, each person can be in his/her unique way and the more someone tries to be using instructions the more he/she isn't, for me. also you make it seems that M&L had no sexy scenes and this isn't the truth. no matter personal opinions, the scenes are there. so even if for you it's a matter of things to do they provide them too. This is when your logic become contradictory for me and stops to be a matter of scenes but it's more a matter of personal perception that can't even be explained. Quote:
you firstly said that people have to look into a certain way in order to be sexy but then you say that Katherine didn't have the right body ( O_o oh well..) but she was sexy for a reason you can't explain... still you don't understand why people can find Shiri sexy even if they give you their reasons... ![]() i missed something here. i'm trying but i really don't understand what we're talking about here and what is your problem. question (i'm curious ) : what's the supposed ideal body you're talking about?because if it really exists i wonder who established it. Quote:
everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and i want to specify that i don't criticize the fact that you can find her sexy (and i expect you to do the same toward us) because this is up to personal individual opinions. everyone has them these things are always so subjective.. we can't really make rules that everyone can follow. BUT please don't tell me that she didn't need to look sexy. this must be a joke. Since the start this (being "sexy") was her purpose and everything she did, every expression of her face and moves was constructed with the sole purpose to make her appear as a "femme fatale". (and i specify: "appear" doesn't mean that she really was )IMO she always FORCED sexiness and i think that in that case it was forced on purpose by the writers she needed to look sexy, if her scenes weren't made for that purpose i don't know what i saw! it wasn't something subtle naturally created by the actress that transcended the script. *It was the script*. It was something exasperated on purpose. Her mindwarps were like that, the way she looked was like that. I think that even Shiri and Majandra made a comment about it in the commentary. To make an example the way she looked at Max before she mindwarped him in the lab scene. That look wasn't really sexy to me, it always makes me laugh like some comical porno where everything is exasperated on purpose. (at the same time in that scene Jason wasn't sexy either) It was a script where a manipulative character was introduced and she was introduced as the one who was trying to seduce using her powers, making people see a "porn videotape" *The way* it was made was more funny than genuinely sexy to me and it was funny because it was exasperated by the writers and her. and like every feeling when sexiness is exasperated it become more ironical than other things. With Kyle? it was the same. She always forced it way too much for it to be "natural". She had more chemistry with him in the scenes where she didn't try to look seductive. and to me sexiness is something that comes naturally.. spontaneously. without realizing it. EDR was realizing it, she wanted to look like that, she tried to look like that, she acted in a specific way in order to look like that. Even in the audition scenes she was like that. it was obvious. as for the curves...my seamstress mom would call EDR a "rectangular" woman. ^^""""" (seamstress and stylists are always obsessed about the shape of a body and feminine curves and they notice every small flaw) in order to understand what it means you have to look her in the xmas episode for example when she was wearing those pants and sweater. Her hips and waist are basically the same size and this is everything but feminine. and you know the history teaches that hips and waist are what really makes a woman very feminine compared to others and the male body If you look closer she isn't really more curved than Shiri and Majandra and i will tell you a secret: push up ![]() If we really want to realistically talk about right curves then outside the appearance and right clothes EDR doesn't have more curves than Shiri or Majandra. Shiri's legs and waist (and butt) are way more feminine and "soft" than hers especially if you look at her recent pics. Honestly i always thought that Shiri and Katherine represented good examples of the two different kinds of female beauty and femininity anyway because chemistry and sexiness can't be divided too much it's not casual that Shiri has chemistry with almost all the actors she works with while Emile and Katherine don't have so much chemistry with almost all the actors they worked with... and one of the reasons for me is that they're not naturally sexy otherwise it should be easy for them to have chemistry with everyone. Quote:
![]() it depends on what kind of chemistry we're talking about. Liz and Maria had chemistry too and they didn't need, obviously, to be sexy as a "couple". That one is platonic chemistry. Just like Max and Isabel or Max and Michael. but when it's about couples then a great chemistry can't be only platonic. Jason and Shiri were playing a couple and they were playing a very passionate couple and to me when it's about chemistry between two people involved into a romantic relationship it's impossible to not have sensuality. If they have chemistry they're sexy too. If they don't have chemistry then they're not sexy and they aren't able to look real in sexy scenes that are typical for a couple. if J&S didn't have a great chemistry then they wouldn't be so natural in that kind of scenes too. it's because they have a great chemistry that they're hot too. they were so natural that sometimes you wonder if everything was really in the script or they added it. and many of the things we see in their making out scenes were natural and not scripted... there're some details like some kisses, some touching that can't be specified into a script Quote:
exactly. and this leads to sensuality too. that's the point. when two actors share an amazing chemistry then it's easy for them to be sexy without too many tricks and without the script. It's the kind of subtle natural sexiness that can be created only when two people are emotionally connected to each other. Jason and Shiri were like that. If two people don't have chemistry then their "sexy" scenes are not natural and real (Jason and Emilie were horrible for me, for example. and they were horrible because they didn't have chemistry =they felt forced to me. of course i'm biased but i've read the same opinion written by people who really don't care about Max and Liz ) The unresolved sexual tension between M&L was huge especially in the first season when they weren't a couple yet but it seemed that they would kiss in any scene. also don't forget that love IS passion. these two.. they're crazy for each other and it's undeniable that they are a very passionate couple, they show it. again, if you want to understand what we mean don't confuse passion and sensuality with porn. otherwise we're talking about two completely different things. i don't ship in lost but i find Sawyer and Kate very sexy together and they have a great chemistry i find them sexy and i find M&L sexy. And i find other couples sexy But i can't compare them They're all sexy in their unique different way and they aren't sexy because the script says it. M&L are one of those rare examples of a couple that can show both passion and sweetness all at the same time and it makes them irresistible. Quote:
![]() i knew it!! ![]() You find hot EDR just for her looking no? so whatever you're accusing people of doing you're pretty the same. Jason Behr is hot so it's obvious that people find him hot especially in sexy scenes. But i personally have to say that while i do find Jason hot i don't find all his fictional couples hot... and from what i saw i'm not the only one. Shiri has chemistry with almost everyone (even if nothing can compare with the one she shared with Jason ) while Jason had a great chemistry only with her IMO for example, In skinwalkers he had this very hot sequence with the actress but i don't find them hot together just because Jason is or the scene is. I think that Jason was the chemistry here (if it does make sense) i didn't even notice the actress. He really didn't need her in order to be hot The scene was hot but i can't say that they had a great chemistry together and they were hot together. *Jason* was hot. but he didn't automatically make the actress and the couple hot too.So i really don't think that the people find M&L hot or sexy just because they're female fans and they think that Jason is hot. Otherwise they should see like that all the fictional couples where Jason is the male character but it doesn't seem to me that Jason's fans are like that. M&L are hot because Jason and Shiri shared an amazing chemistry and they perfectly worked together as a couple so much that they seemed two people who wanted each other. Quote:
![]() to me sensuality shouldn't be confused with porn and gross and i surely don't do it. so if for you sensuality= porn, gross---> the cheap constructed and stereotyped sexiness then we agree, M&L are not like that. but for me the real sensuality is another thing and my opinion is based on that __________________ ___________________________ Last edited by *Coccy* : 06-24-2009 at 08:27 AM. | ||||||||
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I haven't seen Heigl outside of Roswell and Knocked Up. I thought she had very good romantic chemistry with Fehr and the guy from KU. Quote:
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Everyone has their own views and opinions on chemistry and sexiness. To me though, Max and Liz just screamed chemistry which is why I think I became a shipper on them. They are both sexy in their own way. Said that, please let's respect each other since we all have our own opinions and please keep it civilJBMJ Jason was in at least 2 romantic movies in which he had starring roles ![]() __________________ Last edited by Dreamer 4 Ever : 06-24-2009 at 11:31 AM. | |||
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![]() you know it by yourself ![]() lets just say that i have an impression by looking at this board and another board and by looking at all the replies you did here. who knows ![]() i may be wrong ![]() but generally my impressions are always right ![]() Quote:
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then i either didn't understand your point or you're very contradictory here lets see.... you firstly said that people have to look into a certain way in order to be sexy and since Shiri doesn't have those things then she can't be sexy. but then you said the contrary of it. you firstly make it seems that M&L or Liz didn't have scenes that are made in order to be sexy too (like if we're the ones who see sexiness in platonic scenes) then you say that they have those scenes but they're not sexy *for you* (and this is ok for me) you firstly made it seems that people should be into a certain way in order to be sexy but then you said that Katherine, who doesn't have the right body/face for you, is sexy for you even if you don't know how to explain it. and it's understandable, i don't think that these things can really be explained but then you're the one who started a discussion about how people should be in order to be sexy. You're the one who rationalized something that is subtle and very personal most of the time my point is that sexiness is irrational and subjective for you too. so you shouldn't be surprised that people can find Shiri sexy too. it seemed to me that you wanted to use the "how to be sexy for dummies" only when it's about Shiri when it's about the others they can be sexy no matter the looks and scenes. when it's about Shiri she needs certain looks and scenes even if she actually has them. Quote:
because i don't think that people really have to get totally horny at any cost in order to find something hot or sexy you kinda make it seems that we're all perverts ![]() it can happen but i hope for people that it doesn't happen *always* otherwise it could be embarrassing ![]() Quote:
and i'm not attacking you i'm just giving you the chance to make a discussion and i tried to understand your point but i honestly still fail do understand it and it's not that you really replied to me ![]() apparently what is sexy for you is still a big mystery for me apparently you don't even know why you find sexy the people you find sexy but it but you want us to explain why we find sexy Shiri or M&L Quote:
while it still seem to me that when it's about her and M&L you don't find them sexy because they don't follow certain "rules" about sexiness your opinion about it is a bit interchangeable depending on who you're talking about. and this further shows how this kind of things are very subjective and it's not simple to explain why we can find sexy something or someone. Quote:
![]() i doubt that other fans would reply you like we did. frankly it seems to me that you just want to provoke us and it isn't the first time. Quote:
and i could bet that most of male roswell fans found KH hot for her body ![]() guess i was wrong Quote:
and it was forced because she tried to appear like that and to me being sexy is not a matter of what you do on purpose in order to be sexy. for me It's a matter of what you do without really realizing that it can be sexy. it's something natural. and she didn't look natural for me. her way to be sexy, if she really was, was stereotyped and cheap. and to me it was made on purpose. Quote:
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for me the script demanded Tess to be hot as someone who obviously was playing with her powers and exasperated her sexiness to the point that the scenes became more ironical than something to take seriously. it was forced. if it was made with the purpose to be forced then it worked. If i was supposed to take it seriously and really sexy when it failed because she was a bit pathetic for me. we can say that it worked for both of us then ![]() Quote:
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it seems that for you only what is porn is sexybut into a way it's true when i don't find something sexy i usually find it porn ![]() Quote:
otherwise a couple and two siblings are the same thing. ok lets summarize your opinion for you: couple with great chemistry---> can't be hot couple without chemistry--> can be hot ![]() Quote:
![]() eta: Jen we posted at the same time. read it ![]() __________________ ___________________________ Last edited by *Coccy* : 06-24-2009 at 11:32 AM. | |||||||||||||||||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Dude, do you even like ML? I know you don't like Shiri... ![]() __________________ Please Vote For Life UneXpected in The Mid-Season Poll!! | |||
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| Master Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | OK can we please stop this! Remember No bashing lets be respectful on one another! I do not care who started it or who said what! We are not 5 so lets be civil and move on or I will get Topoksky on you or agent Pierce and you do not want that! Love the Max and Liz Icons! ![]() Were you happy with the way Roswell ended? Aside from the wedding anything else you would change or add to make it better. I often wonder what would have happened if Max and Liz had left earth at the end. __________________ "Hi I'm Jason nice to meet you"~Jason Behr to me~5/8/07 ![]() "It was nice meeting you Erin"~Milo Ventimiglia to me~11/20/06 ~Proud member of The DSC!10/6/99-10/6/09~ Roswell celebrating 10 years of Alien Blasts,Tabasco Sauce, & It was you "OMG your the girl I didn't puke on"~Stephanie Meyer to me in reference to meeting her at the 2008 San Diego Comic Con~8/1/08 "We have work to do"~ The Impala road trip lives on! Supernatural is back! Season 5 here we come! | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I don't know...Agent Pierce was kinda hot. ![]() ![]() I was happy that the show ended with M/L together. They were tainted but still the most beautiful couple ever! ![]() __________________ Please Vote For Life UneXpected in The Mid-Season Poll!! | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Me too, I was happy with the way they ended it, especially with no cliffhangers As long as Max and Liz ended up together, I was happy ![]() | |||
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| I'm a die hard Dreamer and yet I never posted in here. Hi my name is Amanda. I've been a Dreamer since the first ep. My first crush was Jason. I have loved the show since day one.__________________ Team Derek Groupie Icon: Nymph Marty | |||
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![]() i have a thing for dark haired men ![]() I saw him in Ghost Whisper.. the character is totally different.... but maybe he's better as Pierce ![]() i also liked Agent Topolsky! she wasn't really mean, she was a good example of how not all the members of the fbi were like Pierce, some of them didn't even know what he was really doing..... who knows what really happened to her. Poor woman. now... Vanessa Whitaker. Cool enemy . It seems that Katims&Co really liked this kind of enemies back on topic i was obviously happy with how the show ended. guess why ![]() M&L together and happy was one of the small things that felt right to me in the end this show was damaged but M&L always were what kept me interested and they will always be one of the most beautiful fictional couples ever created <3 they deserved every bit of their happy end like no one. Quote:
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Welcome to Cherishing Amanda ![]() | |||
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| Hey everybody!I'm Jen and I've just recently gotten into Roswell (been watching Season 1 on the internet) and I absolutely these two! They really could turn into one of my fave ships of all time!Can I please be added to the list and I hope to talk to all of you soon! ![]() __________________ When you're in the room, Icon | Jen ![]() | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | No problem Amanda Jen, welcome We don't have a list, but feel free to join in on the fun! | |||
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| Thanks for the welcome! And I didn't know you guys didn't have one ![]() Can you guys think of any MVs of these two that you really like? I've been wanting to watch some. __________________ When you're in the room, Icon | Jen ![]() | |||
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