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Cherishing Max & Liz #633: Because once they left normal, we never went back
Welcome to the Max and Liz Appreciation Thread Everything - Lifehouse find me here and speak to me I want to feel you I need to hear you you are the light that's leading me to the place where I find peace again you are the strength that keeps me walking you are the hope that keeps me trusting you are the life to my soul you are my purpose you're everything and how can I stand here with you and not be moved by you would you tell me how could it be any better than this yeah you calm the storms and you give me rest you hold me in your hands you won't let me fall you still my heart and you take my breath away would you take me in take me deeper now and how can I stand here with you and not be moved by you would you tell me how could it be any better than this and how can I stand here with you and not be moved by you would you tell me how could it be any better than this cause you're all I want you're all I need you're everything everything you're all I want you're all I need you're everything everything you're all I want you're all I need you're everything everything you're all I want you're all I need you're everything everything and how can I stand here with you and not be moved by you would you tell me how could it be any better than this and how can I stand here with you and not be moved by you would you tell me how could it be any better than this would you tell me how could it be any better than this by Arosia by naturellebella Arts credited to Liz and Coccy. Quotes from cast and crew on Max & Liz (Jason & Shiri): "It was more about... without you i couldn't become the person I'm now. And I think that throughout the season no matter what has happened.. good or bad.. it made these people who they're i think that's the way it is with life. That choices that we make in our lives and the people that we know help us, in one way or another, be the people we're. And that moment he was thanking her for helping open his eyes to a complete different world. She's a sane voice, some sort of reasoning. The person that he trust the most is Liz who knows him better, I think, than anybody" - Jason Behr (about the last scene from A Roswell Christmas Carol) "The Max-Liz connection works so well, as is so popular with "Roswell"'s fans, because, in Moore's opinion, "It's very romantic in the classic sense of the word. Max is a young man from another planet, with secrets. He saved her life in the first episode, and they became soulmates across time and space. It's a classic set-up. Beyond that, the appeal of their relationship has a great deal to do with the chemistry between Shiri Appleby and Jason Behr." - Ron Moore, co-executive producer & writer Ron Moore talks Roswell in Dec Starlog. "The episodes that I have really found have worked in that way are the pilot episode, which works really well because that’s really, to me, Romeo and Juliet. It’s really about two people meeting and falling in love, but not being able to be together, and I think it grabs you in that way." - Jason Katims, executive producer and creator of the Roswell talks about Roswell episodes that he thinks is a real top television moment. "Heart and Soul of Roswell, I think that Jason [Katims] would share this opinion, has always been the relationship between Max and Liz. That's where the plot begins. He saved her life and he exposes himself at the same time. The love between those two characters is fundamental to the show's success. - Ron Moore, Roswell season 2 DVD, Ask Not commentary "When we did this scene you just kind of expect that this scene's going to be great. You know it's gonna be great because their chemistry is so good together but then watching it a few years later and seeing how good they are together, you know that doesn’t come off - It's not that easy for that to happen. When you have chemistry... we were very lucky with the two of them, what great chemistry the two of them have together on the screen. For three years they could still do a scene like that and could still kinda get you. That’s pretty amazing." (Jason Katims, graduation commentary of the proposal scene) "I though he was an amazing choice for Max. He really does have that intensity — just the way he looks at Liz —and you feel the longing. I always felt that Max was the cautious, responsible and a good person, but with all this bubbling underneath. I think he really conveys that, which is hard to do,because it's all internal." Melinda Metz (Soap Opera Weekly) "I love that! he's a kid! He's a kid, he doesn't care about his "destiny", he's not a captain Kirk. He doesn't care about his unseen planet he just found out about. What he cares about is a very human thing. He cares about this girl. He loves her and she loves him. It's the world to him! That's what it's primary in his mind. And I think that's what the show is about. That's what brings people to this show is this strong love between them" (Ronald Moore about the "I'm coming for you Liz" scene- Ask Not commentary) "That moment to me seems like a transcendent moment. It's the gift he gives to her. It's him thanking her for being there for him and being a friend. And it's not a moment about them getting together as a boyfriend and girlfriend. It's beyond that(...) he's able to go to her even with everything that they've been through" (Jason Katims - A Roswell Christmas Carol commentary of the "I believe in you" scene ) "The moment you look at Shiri you know why Max is in love with her: she was so REAL" (Thania St. John- The Balance commentary) "And then enter Liz. And you know we're playing. One of the great things about season two was playing Max chasing Liz. You know I thought that was a really fun thing. I think it really said a lot about his feeling for her. That he wasn't willing to give it up and that, you know, you were awaiting for for her resolve to weaken and hoping she's gonna go back into his arms." (Ronald Moore about the "I'm coming for you Liz" scene- Ask Not commentary) "We're going to play things a little lighter in some instances. But the relationships are still going to carry forward, because they are the heart and soul of the show. The Liz-Max relationship is front and center, right from the first episode." (Ronald Moore's interview ) "People will go to any length if they love someone..." "These two people. They weren't acting at this point. This was real stuff." (David Nutter, Blood Brother's commentary scene "I guess these are the things you do when...when you feel a certain way about someone."") "Look at how great these two are together. Romeo and Juliet" (David Nutter - Secrets and Lies commentary) "I love the music in this episode--especially the love theme between Max and Liz. This was just magical stuff and I think...I know that with the great combination of Snuffy Walden and Joe Williams...I think there was a real great musical fanatic that really helped I think bond these two characters and also get a sense of sadness because of the fact that they can never ultimately be together. I think it pulls the audience in even more..." (David Nutter) "and here it comes. That's the moment where they know in their hearts that they're in love with each other. They've never said it. He doesn't actually say it now either. But what he's telling her is 'I'm breaking out with you because I'm in love with you' - and the pain in her heart right now is making her angry yet she understands. But she's still so alone when he walks down that... and we know that they belong together and they're in love and what Max is doing right now is for the good of both of them. And half way thought our first season we've broken them up and yet we've completely allowed them to profess their love for each other at the same time. We've given ourselves more fodder for the back half of the season because the love story really needed a wrench thrown into it. We wanted to see what it was like for them to be so happy so that we would know ultimately what they needed to search for and find and live thorough the pain to get there again. (Thania St. John- The Balance commentary, last scene when M&L broke up) Q: My question is about the amazing looks you give Max (Jason) during your scenes together. What are you thinking or what experiences do you draw from for those steamy eyes you have? A: (Shiri Appleby): While Jason and I are looking into each other's eyes I just think about the most pure love possible because their relationship is based strictly on the heart. What they share is what I someday hope to find. __________________ M&L Survivors Made about specific moments from certain seasons and voted on by the people that know the couple the best - the fans. Season 1 Survivor - Winner is #16 - Sexual Healings more to come! ------------------ A Tribute to us Dreamers on The Cherishing Thread and our contribution to Fan Forum History ~Posted by our Fan Forum Administrator Jerry D~ Hi everyone! I don’t know if you all know this, but the Cherishing Max & Liz thread was the very first shipper thread in all of Fan Forum! I used to think the Dawson and Joey shipper thread on the Dawson’s Creek board was the very first shipper thread here, but the person who started that thread actually got the idea from this thread, so you Max and Liz fans (and I consider myself to be a Max and Liz fan) started a tradition of expressing your love and support for your favorite couple that has been copied on almost every board here, so bravo to all of you! I’m glad to see that so many people still post on this thread. "There couldn't have been a better way to end the series. The talented young cast make the most of their moments, with Behr and Appleby especially strong as the starcrossed lovers Max and Liz. When the two look at each other across the room during a moment of great danger, their look is so full of love that the moment is one that seems destined from the very first episode when Max saved Liz's life and we discovered how much he'd always loved her. And that's what this series was really about"~Kathie Huddleston, SciFiWeekly ----------------------------------------------------------------- ~ Future Thread Titles ~ -He couldn't be without her. -Her kisses made him feel heaven. -They couldn't bare to be apart. -She brought him back. -Liz couldn't give Max alien herpes....but Tess could! -She's his everything and he proved it with his life -In the show, all the books..their love is always amazing -Fate kicked "Destiny's" ass! -If the van's rocking, don't bother knocking! -Because she's the first image that people always saw into Max's mind. -Because wherever they went... they were there when they got back. -Because when he got his priorities in order, she was at the top of the list -Because every kiss and smile came as natural as breathing. -Because they are each other's destiny -Because she would go anywhere if it means being with him -Even after his body became dust, his soul still loved and only wanted her -Because when he came out from behind the tree, Liz was all he could see -Because he healed her with his hands and she saved him with a kiss Thread #632 __________________
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Max & Liz Season 2 Survivor This survivor is dedicated to the amazing moments of Max and Liz from Roswell during Season 2. The moments are set up in a particular order (by episode) and will be eliminated by which has the most votes. Each episode will have to gain the most amount of votes after four-six have voted in order to be eliminated. You can only vote once per round. There are a total of 21 rounds. Let the games begin! Round Seven #1 - 2x01 Skin and Bones #2 - 2x02 Ask Not #3 – 2x03 Surprise Voted Out Round Three #4 - 2x04 Summer of '47 Voted Out Round Two #5 - 2x05 The End of the World #6 - 2x06 Harvest #7 - 2x07 Wipeout! Voted Out Round Five #8 - 2x08 Meet the Dupes #9 – 2x09 Max in the City #10 - 2x10 A Roswell Christmas Carol #11 - 2x11 To Serve and Protect #12 - 2x12 We are Family #13 – 2x13 Disturbing Behavior #14 - 2x14 How the Other Half Lives Voted Out Round Four #15 - 2x15 Viva Las Vegas #16 - 2x16 Heart of Mine Voted Out Round Six #17 - 2x17 Cry Your Name #18 - 2x18 It’s Too Late, and It’s Too Bad #19 – 2x19 Baby, It's You Voted Out Round One #20 - 2x20 Off the Menu #21 - 2x21 The Departure Remember to vote for your LEAST Favorite Remember to think about the Max\Liz moments only, not the episode as a whole. I decided to go with Dreamer 4 Ever title suggestion since last one was a suggestion of mine so let's spread the title love around! #11 - 1 #16 - 5 #18 - 1 #16 is out! Man, I just got done doing my research and I knew I had to come and post the new thread Hmm, I guess this time around I'll go with #8. Poor Liz trying to talk to him like nothing has changed and he blows her off, and I guess rightly so. The ending was pretty darn sad too, Liz trying to convince him not to talk about the granilith and he just couldn't really trust her. It's a good thing that he did end up listening to her though in the end. #8 - 1 __________________
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Thanks for the new thread! I love Max/Liz. They're so amazing.
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Hmmm... I guess I vote for #8. (Max and Liz were still have difficulties over the Kyle fiasco and all events were colliding to make Max go to New York). So I choose #8.
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TFTNT!! I love the title
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naturellebella i don't remember if i already voted this round
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Nice new thread. Is there going to be a season 3 collage?
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Awww you used my title I feel so loved
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i got it, i didn't vote yet
i vote 8 too but the scene about the star is the angst that i love lol poor them |
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Excellent job Kem! Great title Jenn!
Hey michelle ling! I'll be back later to respond to the last thread... __________________
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Max & Liz Season 2 Survivor This survivor is dedicated to the amazing moments of Max and Liz from Roswell during Season 2. The moments are set up in a particular order (by episode) and will be eliminated by which has the most votes. Each episode will have to gain the most amount of votes after four-six have voted in order to be eliminated. You can only vote once per round. There are a total of 21 rounds. Let the games begin! Round Eight #1 - 2x01 Skin and Bones #2 - 2x02 Ask Not #3 – 2x03 Surprise Voted Out Round Three #4 - 2x04 Summer of '47 Voted Out Round Two #5 - 2x05 The End of the World #6 - 2x06 Harvest #7 - 2x07 Wipeout! Voted Out Round Five #8 - 2x08 Meet the Dupes Voted Out Round Seven #9 – 2x09 Max in the City #10 - 2x10 A Roswell Christmas Carol #11 - 2x11 To Serve and Protect #12 - 2x12 We are Family #13 – 2x13 Disturbing Behavior #14 - 2x14 How the Other Half Lives Voted Out Round Four #15 - 2x15 Viva Las Vegas #16 - 2x16 Heart of Mine Voted Out Round Six #17 - 2x17 Cry Your Name #18 - 2x18 It’s Too Late, and It’s Too Bad #19 – 2x19 Baby, It's You Voted Out Round One #20 - 2x20 Off the Menu #21 - 2x21 The Departure Remember to vote for your LEAST Favorite Remember to think about the Max\Liz moments only, not the episode as a whole. Quote:
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#8 - 6 #18 - 1 #8 is out! Hmm, I'll have to go with #17 because I don't know it's like one minute Max is saying that he'll always be Liz's friend and then next minute he wouldn't even CONSIDER the idea that Alex could have been killed. I don't know it's really between #17 and #18 to me right now and I'm just going with #17 for now. #17 - 1 __________________
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Hmmm. But I guess what saves the episodes for me for the moment is because I do believe it's out of grief on Liz's part, and out of guilt on Max's part. For Max; he allowed Alex into the secret or Liz did. And he's now dead. Max should know better but they did find compelling evidence about suicide. But we all know that Alex wouldn't. And Max just can't think that maybe an alien did it. And because Alex meant so much to Liz; she wasn't willing to think maybe it wasn't an alien. So major angst for them, and even though I think Max is acting out of ass even to Isabel. Although Isabel was indeed running and wasn't thinking rationally about the college issue. But I am on her side against Max. Although it did seem to be that he was alienating the two people who meant the most to him while allowing Tess closer. A bad time for both Max and Liz. So I give Max the benefit of the doubt because there are still episodes I hate worse LOL.
But, I choose. I'll vote for... #20 - Off the Menu. Another episode where I can now barely watch it - even now. Maybe because it's aired out of order, due to real life emergency back then, but it's a episode where Tess is getting to close for comfort with Max and I can't watch it. Even though I tend to like those special hostage episodes on many television shows. But for this one, for the Tess element alone...I'll have to go with that before Max being an ass. So I vote for #20. __________________
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TFTNT!!! I love the title
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Yay new thread!
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gotta go with #11 ... no real m/l love in this eppy, besides a kind of forgettable dream through liz.
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