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Old 07-12-2010, 04:09 PM
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Oh no. I never liked Zac, not really anyway.
And she could have never been with him, Sam. He would have remember something again and go all psycho killer machine again.
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Old 07-12-2010, 05:17 PM
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I actually really liked Zac. He was probably my fav reoccurring character. I agree that she couldn't be with Sam because it wouldn't have worked out well. Zac's fate ended up being pretty sad . I sort of wish that they had just let him keep the heroic death.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:54 AM
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Yeah, his dead was so sad and I didn't expect to see him again and maybe it should have stayed that way.

On the other hand, away from all he knew, maybe he can finally live a normal happy life.
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Old 07-14-2010, 01:57 PM
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Noooooo, sam as in her clone.
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Old 07-14-2010, 02:17 PM
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I liked her boy.
Sam's son.
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Old 07-16-2010, 09:17 AM
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Yeah, that's a thought i would have liked to see explore...just how the genetics transferred
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Old 07-16-2010, 11:41 AM
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I didn't like her attitude towards Max, though.
Okay, it was understandable to a point, but Max did everything to get her and her family free and to safety and her hostility still didn't change one bit
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But by escaping, Max ruined it for everyone
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Well, yeah. But at least she had the courage.
The others know how bad it was in there. Why are they blaming her alone.
If they want to make anyone pay it should be Manticore and everyone associated with them. They used them.

And what was she, 8? when they fled?
Can you really blame an 8 year old for not thinking about I don't know how many others?

Yeah, I know, it gets difficult there.
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Well, yeah. But at least she had the courage.
The others know how bad it was in there. Why are they blaming her alone.
If they want to make anyone pay it should be Manticore and everyone associated with them. They used them.

And what was she, 8? when they fled?
Can you really blame an 8 year old for not thinking about I don't know how many others?

Yeah, I know, it gets difficult there.
I agree, but while I'm not fond of Sam, I can understand why she feels the way she does. I think it was Alec that said that by the 09ers escaping that the twins had to go through years of psych ops stuff. From what was showed, that didn't look like a pleasant experience. While restrictions would have been harder on everyone that was left, the twins took the brunt of the unpleasantness. Since she was Max's twin and therefore punished since they share DNA, I can see why she would resent/dislike Max. No matter how young Max was and regardless of the fact that Max didn't know about Sam, Sam suffered because of Max's actions.

Why the others blame Max alone, I'm not sure. That doesn't seem fair. I also agree that Max was really young when they fled, and shouldn't be punished because of what she did when she was 8. Granted they were supposed to be geniuses at that age, but their emotional maturity wouldn't be there. I think they do blame Manticore, but since it was all they knew, it's easier to blame a single person.
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I know, like I said, that's where it gets complicated.

Alec told her that, yes.
And we could have even seen a little.

They were trained to be killers, not adults.
They didn't think of anyone else when they left, they just wanted to get out of there.

And yes, what Sam had to go through may have been because of Max, but after how Sam acted, Max still helped her. Helped her get her son back and her family to safety. But that didn't seem to count any.

It might have been all they knew at the point they were tortured even more in manticore, but at some point they knew. At one point they were old enough to think on their own.
Sam even found herself a family out there. Why didn't she go back to Manticore.

I know it was kinda Max fault that they were treated even worse, but at some point you would have to understand that it wasn't Max doing that to them.

There could even be hate at themyelves for not having the courage to do/try what there twins did.

But then look at Alec. He had a hard time, too.
A hard time to trust anyone and whatnot, but he never really blamed that all on Max. Manticore was the enemy.
And no matter what crap he pulled, at the end he wouldn't have let anything happen to Max or do anything himself.
Just remember the time he had to collect those codes.
He was stupid to get himself in the situation to begin with, but that's Alec.
He didn't want to do it. And then he just took the ones that weren't human.


But especially about the reason why Sam was so hostile and all:
I think you can understand her to some point.
I guess it would take her a lot more time and thinking to really get her head around everything.

Anyway, that's digging into a persons psyche.
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Who else watched the show?
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Old 05-26-2011, 08:29 AM
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Obviously now one.
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I'm including this thread in the new TV board guide! It'll be part of the list of closed boards and there's no point in starting a new thread when there's one over here.
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sad about its board getting closed.
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