News & Politics - US Election Coverage 2008 - Part 8 - Rock the vote! - Page 4

alexgeo · 09-02-2008, 05:32 AM

McCain has good vice-president
she is super

**Cristofle** · 09-02-2008, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sunnykerr (View Post)

Unless they did know and figured it would make her look more liberal.

Liberals are likely never going to vote for McCain or especially her. She's against abortion even in the case of rape and incest- she's publically stated on the record that she would force her own daughter to have a product of rape. So I don't think that's it. She was clearly a pick that would appeal to the opposite- to the far right conservative. And all the things coming out about her now- the Trooper scandal, the fact that she didn't know what the VP job was a month ago, her once supporting the Bridge to Nowhere, her former reliance on that earmark system, her lack of knowledge about the Pledge of Allegiance or about issues regarding Iraq, her links to the Alaskan Independence Party...they didn't vet her. It's as simple as that. There's evidence that they are vetting her NOW, AFTER she got picked. And this is McCain's first potential Presidential decision, and he looks utterly incompetent. Biden is a very pragmatic pick on Obama's part- Palin is a clear hasty ploy on McCain's.

Which, all the better for ME. LOL. Obama/Biden 08!

Uh Blah · 09-02-2008, 06:28 AM

From previous thread:

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Some reporter said that Palin has foreign policy experience because Alaska is near Russia/Japan, etc......

Guess who repeated this very same ridiculous theory? Mrs. McCain!

ABC News
about a 3rd of the way into the video is when she can be quoted as saying "remember Alaska's the closest part of our continent to Russia, so it's not as if she doesn't understand what's at stake here"

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Originally Posted by JW77 (View Post)

To be honest, I'm hoping the Democrats do talk about Palin's lack of experience or qualifications. It plays right into the hands of the Republicans. And it'll perpetuate the concern about Obama's experience. If some believe that Palin isn't qualified to be VP because of her lack of experience then what makes them think Obama is qualified to be President when others, including some Democrats like Clinton, believe he lacks experience as well.

The difference is Obama was ELECTED where as Palin was chosen by McCain & his staff after what 2 meetings? If I asked you a year ago who Obama was I think you'd have some idea. But if I asked you who Palin was?

Exactly!

McCain may have stolen the spotlight from Obama's speech, but the hoopla will be over soon. Then the realization that he not only alienated his already dwindling independent support, but he's also managed to energize the Hillary supporters to go AGAINST him at the same time will set in. By picking someone so young it also highlights the fact that McCain is so old. The risk far out weighs the reward with this pick IMO.

Ruby_Slippers · 09-02-2008, 09:49 AM

I believe McCain picked Palin and not a more accomplished Republican woman, is because Palin will defer to him. McCain has to be able to work with the person, and McCain is clearly more experienced, so she fits the bill.

I can think of quite a few Republican women who would be better picks than Palin but I really think it has to do with who McCain feels he can work with.

collide · 09-02-2008, 10:15 AM

Hmm. Sarah Palin's daughter is 17, pregnant and not married. Some conservative people are praising her. Now, if Obama's daughter was older and if she was 17, unwed and pregnant.......they would be calling her every name in the book.

ceilirose · 09-02-2008, 10:36 AM

The irony is that in Palin's statement she said that her daughter chose to have the baby. Her daughter as it stands now has a choice. John McCain and Sarah Palin want to take that choice away from women if they're elected. The baby isn't really the issue here but the issues as to how she got to this place is what should be talked about.

Also Palin was for book burning when she was Mayor of Wasilla. Charming.

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Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." The librarian, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire her for not giving "full support" to the mayor.

Mayor Palin: A Rough Record - TIME

The Republicans have a problem with the far religious right and what it can demand of their leaders. For me I think most Americans are more mainstream and having one radical group of a religion dictate what a party should do is pretty scary. Maybe the religious right needs their own political party.

NYCity Boy · 09-02-2008, 12:37 PM

Do you think that it is possible that McCain choose Palin not for the reason of helping him get the presidential seat, but because she is someone who won't likely oppose any of his ideas if he get the position? Maybe he fears a similar situation with the Bush/Cheney admin of the puppet becoming the puppet master?

**TheAngel** · 09-02-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by collide (View Post)

Hmm. Sarah Palin's daughter is 17, pregnant and not married. Some conservative people are praising her. Now, if Obama's daughter was older and if she was 17, unwed and pregnant.......they would be calling her every name in the book.

I can't help but wonder if some of the same people criticizing Jamie Lynn Spears are now praising Palin's daughter. It's just speculation, but it seems to me like people, both conservative and liberal, are so hypocritical depending upon the situation and the general media/social acceptance of the person involved.

Uh Blah · 09-02-2008, 01:53 PM

Palin's daughter is not running for VP. It should not be of any importance to the election where as Jamie Lynn Spears I believe is a celebrity? Regardless I personally couldn't care less about either of them.

jujubell · 09-02-2008, 02:25 PM

There's a rumor going around that the Downs syndrome baby is actually Bristol's first child. That would explain the excessive association of Sarah with the newborn.

collide · 09-02-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Uh Blah (View Post)

Palin's daughter is not running for VP. It should not be of any importance to the election where as Jamie Lynn Spears I believe is a celebrity? Regardless I personally couldn't care less about either of them.

It's not the media's business that Jamie Lynn Spears got pregnant, either. And yet, people still got on her for that. But now.....it's not okay to get on Palin's daughter?

***Jerry D*** · 09-02-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by collide (View Post)

Hmm. Sarah Palin's daughter is 17, pregnant and not married. Some conservative people are praising her. Now, if Obama's daughter was older and if she was 17, unwed and pregnant.......they would be calling her every name in the book.

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Originally Posted by TheAngel (View Post)

I can't help but wonder if some of the same people criticizing Jamie Lynn Spears are now praising Palin's daughter. It's just speculation, but it seems to me like people, both conservative and liberal, are so hypocritical depending upon the situation and the general media/social acceptance of the person involved.

Both of these statements are so true. I just find it to be comically ironic that a Vice Presidential candidate that was chosen, at least in part, to please the conservatives who were dead set against a pro-choice candidate like Joe Lieberman and who supported backed abstinence-only education during her 2006 gubernatorial race has a pregnant and as yet unwed teenage daughter.

**TheAngel** · 09-02-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Uh Blah (View Post)

Palin's daughter is not running for VP. It should not be of any importance to the election where as Jamie Lynn Spears I believe is a celebrity? Regardless I personally couldn't care less about either of them.

I don't think either should be of any importance. Well, other than showing the fact that sexual education in this country is in such disarray that a number of young girls are becoming pregnant before they should, which personally I feel should at least be after high school. But, that's not the issue. It's not a moral issue here, unless people make it one, which they will. The issue is, how does Palin's views reflect mine. The answer is, they don't, and neither do McCain's which is why I won't be voting for him in November. But Bristol being pregnant has nothing at all to do with it.

ceilirose · 09-02-2008, 04:54 PM

Her husband's ties to the Alaska Independence group might be more of a problem. It's a version of I hate the federal government type of group - all that rhetoric. We'll see if it get's the same play that Rev. Wright did.

NYCity Boy · 09-02-2008, 05:36 PM

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Infuriated About Tough CNN Interview, McCain Cancels Larry King Appearance

Yesterday, Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds appeared on CNN for an interview with Campbell Brown. Brown was tough on Bounds, refusing to let him spout typical campaign talking points. She repeatedly pressed him on Palin’s foreign policy experience and qualifications, asking him to name one decision that she made as commander-in-chief of the Alaskan National Guard. Bounds was unable to do so.

Today, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer revealed that because of that tough interview, the McCain campaign has canceled the senator’s appearance on Larry King Live tonight:

The McCain campaign said it believed that exchange was over the line and as a result the interview scheduled for Larry King Live with Sen. McCain was pulled. CNN does not believe that Campbell’s interview was over the line. We are committed to fair coverage of both sides of this historic election.

Rest of Articl and CNN clip of the interview

I think if you can't handle a few tough campaign questions, how can you handle terrorists and the tough questions you'll get if you are president?