News & Politics - US Election Coverage 2008 - Part 8 - Rock the vote! - Page 20

**vc318** · 09-23-2008, 07:10 PM

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I have a great mental image of her sitting in bed at night with a copy of International Relations for Dummies open on her lap.

Well, I figure she did tons of cramming after the 6 schools she attended. I can't speak for the rest of the country but she has 2 weeks left to convince voters here in Florida or they will be going to polls with their own assumptions about her based on her actions lately.

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There are quite a few other people I think need to read that book as well, but alas, it hasn't been made yet and they probably never will.

I know who you're talking about but wasn't he caught reading the book upside down?

collide · 09-23-2008, 10:54 PM

Campbell Brown on CNN said this.....

"Tonight I call on the McCain campaign to stop treating Sarah Palin like she is a delicate flower that will wilt at any moment," said Brown. "This woman is from Alaska from crying out loud. She is strong. She is tough. She is confident. And you claim she is ready to be one heart beat away form the presidency. If that is the case, then end this chauvinistic treatment of her now. Allow her to show her stuff. Allow her to face down those pesky reporters... Let her have a real news conference with real questions. By treating Sarah Palin different from the other candidates in this race, you are not showing her the respect she deserves. Free Sarah Palin. Free her from the chauvinistic chain you are binding her with. Sexism in this campaign must come to an end. Sarah Palin has just as much a right to be a real candidate in this race as the men do. So let her act like one."
Amen.

alexgeo · 09-24-2008, 03:02 AM

only McCain can stop it YouTube - Russian occupations (since 1939 till 2008)

**TheAngel** · 09-24-2008, 05:56 AM

OK, I have a question. Obama adds keep talking about how McCain voted against equal pay for women. Does anyone have proof of this anywhere? I've checked his voting record on Votesmart.org and the only bill about equal pay was in April of this year and McCain didn't vote on it because he wasn't in the senate at the time. I'm still an Obama fan but I want to get my facts straight for debates. Does anyone know if there's any truth to this? Links would be appreciated.

Uh Blah · 09-24-2008, 06:53 AM

POLITICO's 2008 Swing State Map - Politico.com

Of the "swing" states McCain only has a significant lead(5%) in Missouri. In the other 4 states that show him leading it's by 2% or less. That includes FL(27) & OH(20) though, which are huge on the electoral map.

ceilirose · 09-24-2008, 08:13 AM

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OK, I have a question. Obama adds keep talking about how McCain voted against equal pay for women. Does anyone have proof of this anywhere? I've checked his voting record on Votesmart.org and the only bill about equal pay was in April of this year and McCain didn't vote on it because he wasn't in the senate at the time. I'm still an Obama fan but I want to get my facts straight for debates. Does anyone know if there's any truth to this? Links would be appreciated.

That's one of those grey areas - I just saw an Obama ad this morning which had the women in question (Ledbetter) saying that McCain opposed the bill but not that he voted against it. I'm guessing he was out campaigning but the vote was in April and he already had the nomination. I can't link it right now but it might be on Obama's site.

Campbell Brown? It was good although I can't agree that Palin is strong and tough because we really don't know her. We're told that's what she is but so far we haven't been able to see that for ourselves. Palin does have good speaking skills (ie she can read a teleprompter) and she has strong body language but I'm not convinced there's a whole bunch of depth there.

MTVVJ08 · 09-24-2008, 12:54 PM

This is CRAZY.

McCain seeks to delay debate - John McCain News - MSNBC.com

**Cristofle** · 09-24-2008, 02:17 PM

What really infuriates me about this? It was kind of OBAMA'S idea. Not the debate part exactly, he thinks they can still do that in DC, but going to Washington together to work on the bailout and such. HE reached out to McCain, saying they needed to issue a joint statement about this together. McCain agreed- and then mere minutes later, issued a solo statement, all so he could be the first one on TV looking proactive. Obama got ****ed over for being a decent guy, in other words, while McCain made a savvy but once again morally bankrupt move.

In other news, every time I see one of his interviews, I kinda want to cling to his leg and beg him to come back. I won't lie.

Bill Clinton Pt. 1 | The Daily Show | Comedy Central

I miss having someone...intelligent as my President.

ceilirose · 09-24-2008, 02:30 PM

It's bizarre. You can't stop the debates and I'm not even convinced that the crisis is as bad as Bush says it is. I think there's problems but not to the extent that Bush says there is.

McCain has been all over the place on this one and if he's elected he needs to walk and chew gum at the same time - you can deal with this crisis and have the debate. Change the debate to Washington DC if you have to.

**Cristofle** · 09-24-2008, 03:47 PM

He wants to stop the debates because everything right now will go back to the economy. Which he even admits is not his strong point. He's gone from looking confused to looking TERRIFIED this past week. Obama has spent months surrounded by economic advisors while McCain has basically blown all that off.

ceilirose · 09-24-2008, 04:20 PM

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CNN) — McCain supporter Sen. Lindsey Graham tells CNN the McCain campaign is proposing to the Presidential Debate Commission and the Obama camp that if there's no bailout deal by Friday, the first presidential debate should take the place of the VP debate, currently scheduled for next Thursday, October 2 in St. Louis.

In this scenario, the vice presidential debate between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin would be rescheduled for a date yet to be determined, and take place in Oxford, Mississippi, currently slated to be the site of the first presidential faceoff this Friday.

Graham says the McCain camp is well aware of the position of the Obama campaign and the debate commission that the debate should go on as planned — but both he and another senior McCain adviser insist the Republican nominee will not go to the debate Friday if there's no deal on the bailout.

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - McCain camp to propose postponing VP debate � - Blogs from CNN.com

This would be such a disgrace if it happened. Trust me the VP debate will never happen if this went through. That's probably what McCain wants.

collide · 09-24-2008, 04:28 PM

This is such bs. What can McCain and Obama do? Nothing until one of them gets elected. They will give a speech,......why is there a need for McCain to go down there?

People are saying that McCain would not be doing this if he was in the lead in the polls.

metal heart · 09-24-2008, 04:32 PM

regardless of who made the first move, i have to say mccain putting it all on hold to try and help handle this situation was a wise decision... the economy should be the ONLY thing people are worried about, period... it's so horrible and people should seriously fear what may occur if this goes on for too much longer without resolution

**Cristofle** · 09-24-2008, 04:32 PM

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CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - McCain camp to propose postponing VP debate � - Blogs from CNN.com

This would be such a disgrace if it happened. Trust me the VP debate will never happen if this went through. That's probably what McCain wants.

I can tell you right now why he's pushing back the VP debates.

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CBS NEWS ANCHOR KATIE COURIC INTERVIEWS VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE
SARAH PALIN ON TONIGHT’S “CBS EVENING NEWS”

Following is the transcript of tonight’s interview, which focuses on the nation’s economic crisis. Tomorrow’s (25) portion of the interview will focus on international affairs. As previously announced, Couric's extended interview with Gov. Palin from the campaign trail will be broadcast on the CBS EVENING NEWS next Monday (29) and Tuesday (30).

Mandatory credit: the CBS EVENING NEWS WITH KATIE COURIC

COURIC: Sarah Palin kept up her busy schedule today, meeting with several world leaders who are here in New York for the UN session. But she took time out for an exclusive interview, in which we discussed the state of the economy at length. We began, though, by addressing reports that the lobbying firm of Senator McCain's campaign manager received payments from Freddie Mac until last month. I asked for her reaction to that.

PALIN: My understanding is that Rick Davis recused himself from the dealings of the firm. I don't know how long ago, a year or two ago that he's not benefiting from that. And you know, I was--I would hope that's not the case.

COURIC: But he still has a stake in the company so isn't that a conflict of interest.

PALIN: Again, my understanding is that he recused himself from the dealings with Freddie and Fannie, any lobbying efforts on his part there. And I would hope that's the case because, as John McCain has been saying, and as I've been on a more local level been on a much more local level been also rallying against is the undue influence of lobbyists in public policy decisions being made.

COURIC: Then we focused on the $700 billion government bailout of bad debt and I asked her if she supports it.

PALIN: I'm ill about the position that America is in and that we have to look at a $700 billion bailout. At the same time we know that inaction is not an option and as Senator McCain has said unless this nearly trillion dollar bailout is what it may end up to be, unless there are amendments in Paulson's proposal, really I don't believe that Americans are going to support this and we will not support this. The interesting thing in the last couple of days that I have seen is that Americans are waiting to see what John McCain will do on this proposal. They're not waiting to see what Barack Obama is going to do. Is he going to do this and see what way the political wind's blowing. They're waiting to see if John McCain will be able to see these amendments implemented in Paulson's proposal.

COURIC: Why do you say that? Why are they waiting for John McCain and not Barack Obama?

PALIN: He's got the track record of the leadership qualities and the pragmatism that's needed at a crisis time like this.

COURIC: But polls have shown that Senator Obama has actually gotten a boost as a result of this latest crisis with more people feeling that he can handle the situation better than John McCain?

PALIN: I'm not looking at poll numbers. What I think Americans at the end of the day are going to be able to go back and look at track records and see who's more apt to be talking about solutions and wishing for and hoping for solutions for some opportunity to change, and who's actually done it?

COURIC: If this doesn't pass, do you think there's a risk of another Great Depression?

PALIN: Unfortunately, that is the road that America may find itself on. Not necessarily this as it's been proposed has to pass or we're going to find ourselves in another Great Depression. There has got to be action--bipartisan effort--Congress not pointing fingers at one another but finding the solution to this, taking action, and being serious about the reforms on Wall Street that are needed.

COURIC: Would you support a moratorium on foreclosures to help average Americans keep their homes?

PALIN: That's something that John McCain and I have both been discussing whether that is part of the solution or not...you know, it's going to be a multi-faceted that has to be found here.

COURIC: So you haven't decided whether you'll support it or not?

PALIN: I have not.

COURIC: What are the pros and cons of it do you think?

PALIN: Well, some decisions that have been made poorly should not be rewarded of course.

COURIC: By consumers, you're saying?

PALIN: Consumers and those who were predator lenders also. That's, you know, that has to be considered also. But again, it's got to be a comprehensive long term solution found for this problem that America is facing today. As I say, we are getting into crisis mode here.

COURIC: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?

PALIN: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie--that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.

COURIC: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.

PALIN: He's also known as the maverick though. Taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about--the need to reform government.

COURIC: I'm just going to ask you one more time, not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation?

PALIN: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.

Palin is...not smart. That's why.

ceilirose · 09-24-2008, 04:38 PM

What is McCain going to do? He's been for deregulation his whole career - he's part of the problem.

Bush and his gang want this country to write a blank check for 700 billion and there's no transparency at all. It's ridiculous.

I agree something has to be done but i'm not sure the sky is falling just yet.

This is a stunt on McCain's part.