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Old 09-18-2008, 10:27 AM
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I read about that too - it's bizarre and you can try and think up any number of reasons why McCain said what he said. He's just past his prime and it's frightening to think of McCain and Palin in office.

Here's a misspeak from Palin:

Palin puts herself on the top of the ticket. It's now "Palin and McCain"

LOL..she's calling it the Palin and McCain administration.
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Old 09-18-2008, 07:00 PM
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The idea that the president of the United States, whomever that happens to be, would only meet with leaders of democratic countries is so naive and ludicrous, it's almost cute.
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What's the lipstick on a pig comment?

And as for people I know who would be willing to vote McCain, it's the Jews in America, which are a big group that often votes on issues that would concern Israel over issues in America. Many think Obama is bad for Israel and therefore are voting for, or thinking of voting for, McCain.
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Old 09-19-2008, 04:51 AM
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What's the lipstick on a pig comment?

And as for people I know who would be willing to vote McCain, it's the Jews in America, which are a big group that often votes on issues that would concern Israel over issues in America. Many think Obama is bad for Israel and therefore are voting for, or thinking of voting for, McCain.
Those people need to do more research.
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Old 09-19-2008, 05:34 AM
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Those people need to do more research.
Maybe, and if I lived in America I'd vote for the issues concerning America and not Israel, but the fact is a lot of people voted for Bush for the same reasons.
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Old 09-19-2008, 06:54 AM
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Anyone jewish who supports Palin should read the Book of Revelations ASAP. She believes all that idiocy about end times and how only 144,000 jews will be left alive at the end.
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Old 09-19-2008, 07:39 AM
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I am Jewish and my family who are not very political minded stick with McCain because they are comfortable with Lieberman and comfortable with McCains 25 year pro Israel stand. But others are starting to lose faith in McCain camp since palin hopped on the ticket. Remember when her church hosted Jews for Jesus leader David Brickner who suggested that terrorist attacks on Israelis were God's ''judgment'' against Jews who haven't accepted Christianity? That has turned a few of them off the ticket. Palin also does not have experience in that area and to really help the people, you have to know the history.

Of course this is only my family, isnt meant to represent all Jewish people but just thought I'd throw in that. And the jewish vote is hardly set in stone. Romney a mormon had more jewish support than rudy right?

On a lighter note, my sister found this and forwarded it to me:

"Obamica" and "McCippah
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Old 09-19-2008, 08:02 AM
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Maybe, and if I lived in America I'd vote for the issues concerning America and not Israel, but the fact is a lot of people voted for Bush for the same reasons.
I know they did. I just find it sad that people don't bother to do more research on such important things/elections. They need to realize that their votes affect the rest of the world too, and not just the US.
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^ I agree. With all of the world watching who wins, it reveals a lot about us to them. What we will tolerate, how we make decisions and how we see the world
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If the economic news continues the way it's been going this week then I think that most Americans are going to vote on that issue. Of course others will vote on foreign policy issues but what's happened this week and today with the proposed government bail out of our financial industry (for the most part) is going to hit the individual tax payer hard.

It's so frustrating though - we've been told we can't have national health care insurance because it's too expensive, the entitlement programs will bankrupt us (hah!), we don't have money for the public schools but we have trillions for this. The real kicker is that the people who ran these companies (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Lehman Brothers) will walk away with millions, if not hundreds of millions as severance pay. Why not hold them accountable for the bad decisions they made?

Then I heard Donald Trump saying that he's endorsing McCain. Don't tax the rich, they create the jobs, trickle down economics, blah, blah, blah. We've had it for close to 8 years now - when is it going to start?
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This is really really really really scary.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/19/op...rSiA8whygH3wPg

Not Hillary's op-ed piece- this is great- but what she's writing about. So if I understand correctly, the way the Bush administration has proposed this, it's left up to the health care employees to decide "what they find objectionable." There were already laws in place that doctors were not required to perform abortions, to be clear. This is stating that doctors and other employees get to DECIDE what they find morally objectionable. So in other words, if you're homophobic, you wouldn't be required to assist a gay man or woman strictly speaking. As Hillary points out here:

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Many circumstances unrelated to reproductive health could also fall under the umbrella of “other medical procedures.” Could physicians object to helping patients whose sexual orientation they find objectionable? Could a receptionist refuse to book an appointment for an H.I.V. test? What about an emergency room doctor who wishes to deny emergency contraception to a rape victim? Or a pharmacist who prefers not to refill a birth control prescription?
Sometimes I feel my hatred for Bush being overshadowed by my newfound hatred for John McCain.

And then he goes and does something like THIS.
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Old 09-19-2008, 04:17 PM
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I really feel McCain is going to win sometimes and that thought is scary.
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Old 09-19-2008, 04:31 PM
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I really feel McCain is going to win sometimes and that thought is scary.
That would be even worse than Bush winning in 2004. Honestly.
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I really feel McCain is going to win sometimes and that thought is scary.
Don't get discouraged. Just make sure you get out there and encourage people to vote. At least you're doing something so that McCain won't win.
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I am Jewish and my family who are not very political minded stick with McCain because they are comfortable with Lieberman and comfortable with McCains 25 year pro Israel stand. But others are starting to lose faith in McCain camp since palin hopped on the ticket. Remember when her church hosted Jews for Jesus leader David Brickner who suggested that terrorist attacks on Israelis were God's ''judgment'' against Jews who haven't accepted Christianity? That has turned a few of them off the ticket. Palin also does not have experience in that area and to really help the people, you have to know the history.

Of course this is only my family, isnt meant to represent all Jewish people but just thought I'd throw in that. And the jewish vote is hardly set in stone. Romney a mormon had more jewish support than rudy right?

On a lighter note, my sister found this and forwarded it to me:

"Obamica" and "McCippah
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