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Old 03-06-2009, 05:59 PM
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Nervous Travelers Demanding 'Layoff Insurance'

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(CNN) -- Does your boss raise an eyebrow when you ask to schedule time off?

Maybe you need layoff insurance for your next vacation.

With so many layoffs in the news, travel insurance companies and providers are seeing increased interest in their policies -- many of which offer refunds to people laid off before they were scheduled to ship out on a big vacation.

The policies usually cost a relatively small percentage of the trip price, depending on certain risk factors. For example, a package that includes layoff insurance on a $2,000 trip to China is running about $50 to $125 for a 30-year-old traveler.

Beware, though, some job coaches have questioned whether or not a person who fears a layoff should plan a trip at all.

Plus, some of the travel insurance policies are tricky to read.

Layoff insurance is included in many basic travel policies, but the feature often is restricted to employees who have been with their companies for a certain amount of time -- usually one to three years. Travel experts said you should read the fine print carefully.

Then there's a confusingly named add-on: "cancel for work reasons."

Those policies typically allow people to get refunds if they cancel their trip because of a changed job assignment or a company move -- but not because of a layoff, said Chris Harvey, CEO of Squaremouth.com, a site where travelers can compare travel insurance policies.

"I don't think it was a trick, but I do think it's very, very vaguely worded," Harvey said.

Travel insurance experts said it's best to shop around for a policy that's right for you.

Insurance companies cater to certain demographics. So, if you're in your 20s, you probably would get a bad deal from a company that specializes in retirees, and the reverse is also true.

Some Web sites allow travelers to compare insurance policies from several companies at once. Two of the main aggregator sites, according to people contacted by CNN, are Squaremouth.com and InsureMyTrip.com.

At Squaremouth, users enter some trip basics -- destination, trip cost and the ages of travelers -- and then sort results according to price and other factors. So if layoff insurance is important to you, you can see the details of each plan -- whether it covers you if you're laid off and how long you need to have been at the company.

You can use that information to choose a policy that fits your needs and has the best price.

Site viewers can click on "plan details" to get the policy's exact wording from its backer. Most of the details have to do with why travelers would cancel trips: because of weather, injuries, health conditions, layoffs, etc.

The site also includes insurer stability ratings from the A.M. Best Co. That's important with so many insurance companies in financial trouble, Harvey said.

Harvey said his site sold about 6,000 insurance policies in February -- about double the number he sold in the same month last year, he said.

"February is shaping up to be the best month in our history, which is kind of strange," he said. "What we think it is that although fewer people are traveling, much, much more of those are buying insurance."

He attributes the trend to the shaky economy.

The travel insurance industry has been growing since 2001, and policy sales amounted to more than $1.3 billion in 2006, the most recent year of data, according to the U.S. Travel Insurance Association.

The trade association and travel insurance companies said it's difficult to say how many people are purchasing the policies because they want layoff insurance.

Harvey said his site has been getting frequent questions about layoff insurance since late last year.

"It never came up before -- it just was never an issue," he said.

Layoff insurance for travelers first became available about a year ago but has gained popularity as the economic recession has intensified, said Bob Chambers, director of operations for CSA Travel Protection, a major travel insurance provider.

"Typically a vacation is your third biggest investment after your house and your car," he said. "You protect those investments. Why wouldn't you protect this one?"

Chambers declined to release specific data on the company's sales increase.

Linda Kundell, spokeswoman for the U.S. Travel Insurance Association, said insurance policies are becoming common for lengthy and international trips. About 30 percent of all cruise goers, leisure travelers and international travelers now buy travel insurance, she said.

"If you're buying a high-ticket item, of course, you're far more likely to buy travel insurance because there's far more money at stake," she said.

Christina Tunnah, American marketing director for Lonely Planet, a brand of travel guidebooks, said all travelers these days should purchase insurance -- whether they fear job loss or not.

"The travel industry has been decimated, and so there's a lot of jitters out there," she said. "It's good to know there's something a traveler can absolutely bank on when the rest is so uncertain about their trip."

Harvey and Chambers warned against "cancel for any reason" plans, which give travelers refunds for layoffs or just about any other thing.

Chambers said those policies are expensive and difficult to price because there are unlimited risks for the insurance company.

He also said it's a good idea for consumers to check with the Better Business Bureau, ustia.org or watchdog groups to make sure the insurance company they're buying from is legitimate.

And one last warning: Some Web sites sell "travel protection" that isn't backed by a real insurance company, he said.

But once you've sorted through the maze of policies and decided on one that fits you, Chambers said, one of the biggest benefits is stress relief.

"The peace of mind is worth something, too," he said. "You may not have any inkling that a job might be in jeopardy anytime soon, but, personally, I would rather have that assurance that I'm taken care of."
Nervous travelers demanding 'layoff insurance' - CNN.com

It's the first time I've hear of layoff insurance, though I suppose that's because I really don't travel very much myself. It makes a lot of sense in these uncertain times, though, doesn't it?

Anyone planning big trips this year?
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:46 PM
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I think the layoff insurance is a good idea considering everything that's going on with jobs and stuff. I'm hoping to go on a little cruise sometime in April but those chances seem to be grim with how expensive everything is.

Are you planning to go anywhere, Sunny?
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Old 03-15-2009, 06:22 PM
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Oh, no. I'm no big traveller. But, you know, I'm aware that most people do tend to travel!

I do think it's a great idea, in these hard economic times.
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:23 PM
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Sheesh, no wonder this isn't the most hopping section of the board. I don't enjoy travel so much and the rest of the stories are all about plane crashes!
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Sheesh, no wonder this isn't the most hopping section of the board. I don't enjoy travel so much and the rest of the stories are all about plane crashes!
Hehe, you have a good point. But I don't really mind. To see the rest of the world, it's worth it, since there's more of a chance of dying in your car than there is of dying in a plane. I'm also one of those people that believes in quality of life over quantity so if it's my time, then so be it, at least I got to see some awesome places while I was alive.
I'm a bit disappointed, though. I'm moving to Las Vegas in two months and was hoping to travel into Mexico some. I've been to Europe but never anywhere south of the border and since I'm going to be so close it would have been fun, but so many of the border towns are being involved in drug wars and disputes that they're really not safe. So I may have to wait to do some of my traveling around there.
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Old 03-20-2009, 02:11 PM
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I'd really like to take a cruise before little one comes but the prices are still really expenses after fuel and tax is charged. It can get pricey. Plus, the only time I can travel is when the kids are out of school so of course the prices are going to be higher than usual.
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Old 03-22-2009, 05:54 PM
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Money is a big factor in whether or not a person (or a family) travels.

Then there's the fact that a lot of places that are a bit closer to home (like Mexico) seem to be quite scary right now.
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Old 03-24-2009, 02:26 PM
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Yeah, some places you probably don't want lurking on your itinerary these days, for sure.
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Castaway sues Princess Cruises over rescue failure

A Panamanian fisherman who survived 28 days adrift in the Pacific and watched two companions die is suing the owners of a cruise ship that sailed past.


Adrian Vasquez has filed a lawsuit in Florida alleging negligence by Princess Cruises, his lawyer said.

The American cruise company has said it deeply regrets that one of its ships sailed past the dying men.

Passengers said they spotted the castaways and alerted staff, but the firm said the captain was not informed.

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Mr Vasquez's lawyer, Edna Ramos, said the lawsuit includes testimony from two cruise ship passengers who said they saw the boat and reported it to a member of staff.

One passenger, Judy Meredith, earlier told reporters she had informed a sales representative about the boat and had shown him it through a spotting telescope.

She said she had been assured the information had been passed on to the crew.

Mr Vasquez and his friends set out in their three-metre-long open fishing boat the Fifty Cents from the port of Rio Hato in February, and were on their way back after their catch when the engine failed.

After 16 days adrift, he says, they saw a cruise ship sailing past, and had made attempts to flag it down with a red sweater.

"We felt happy, because we thought they were coming to rescue us," he said.

Mr Vasquez was eventually rescued 1,000km (620 miles) off the mainland, near the Galapagos Islands. His friends had already died of thirst.

He said he survived thanks to a sudden rainstorm that replenished his drinking water supplies.

Princess Cruises said there appeared to have been a "breakdown in communication".

It said the captain - Edward Perrin - and the officer of the watch were not notified.

Princess Cruises said it understood its responsibility under the law of the sea to help any vessel in distress, and said its ships had been involved in more than 30 rescues over the past decade.
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I'm sure I'm not the only one who's heard about this story. This is insane to me.

It's an obvious violation of maritime law.

It's just not a good time for cruise liners at this time, is it?
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I sincerely hope the "breakdown of communications" excuse is true - because if not, it really is beyond comprehension.
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Is this a thread about plane crashes? .
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Is this a thread about plane crashes?
Erm. No.

Hence that last story.

About which...

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I sincerely hope the "breakdown of communications" excuse is true - because if not, it really is beyond comprehension.
In this instance? Even a breakdown of communications is, in my humble opinion, beyond comprehension.

You know, I don't have my driver's license. There're a lot of reasons why I don't have my driver's license. High amon them is that I have small, but important limitations. My depth perception isn't great. My hand-eye coordination is slow.

So, you know, the idea of putting that behind the wheel of a car? No. Just no. The potential consequences would be too severe.

So this is the choice I make. I don't drive.

You're on a cruise ship. You see a boat drifting off. You tell the staff members.

That should be the end of it. People should have acted.
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